New York 194: Guns N' Roses Mafia! (Day 8)

[Firebringer]

So looks like we aren't doing so hot.
Anyone want to grab some beers and watch this town go up in flames with me?

[Firebringer]

@Mods Is the First Page going to be updated soon?

[Firebringer]

ohh wait, 2 scum died.
LOL!

[RachMarie]

well uggh I was right about Oz wrong about which one it was in the town/scum pr claims bah.

Still we have two flips so should be able to get some good VCA and associations with them

Still three nks?

@SS I could not vote for BOTH of them at the same time and it seemed to me with the claim and fake claim we had it made more sense to go after who I thought was the one faking. I fully intended on going after oz more today along with pushing a lynch on frag since ira flipped town. Now I will look for their buddies. Are we sure its multiball though? the flips looked like they are on the same team? (both being the same color and same name that is). Could be a larger scum team plus a SK plus some other reason someone else got shot. Clearly its one or the other with that many kills.

Will spend some time this weekend really going through and looking at the vote counts and the associations with Oz and Frag dudes.

Pedit
@FB in my book a night when two scum die is a good night

[Firebringer]

Yes, it was a decent night, but I think that means this is multiball.
So thats fun

[RachMarie]

If it is multiball then we need to lynch someone from the other team so we can get more associations. If it is multiball, most likely there is only one more buddy to the oz/frag team, and we need to figure out who is on the other team.

[Firebringer]

Okay, who you think that is?

[Aristophanes]

So looks like we aren't doing so hot.
Anyone want to grab some beers and watch this town go up in flames with me?

Finally something I can agree with!

[Killthestory]

Aris focus on your associations shit, not filler

[Aristophanes]

Aris focus on your associations shit, not filler

okie dokes.
Starting now. With any luck, I'll have this done at some point tomorrow!

[Slandaar]

ohh wait, 2 scum died.
LOL!

I find it hard to believe town wouldn't check the flips before posting;

So looks like we aren't doing so hot.

[Something_Smart]

Oh, I hadn't even been considering multiball. I guess that would explain Fragger's fakeclaim in that he was hoping Ira would actually flip scum...
@Rach: That makes sense, and it's unfortunately not provable, but it does mean that it's harder to read you based on yesterday. I will say the way you brought him up was different from Ozgin's bussing in that he had no pressure on him previously whereas Fragger was going to go up in flames anyway, so that works in your favor.

[Performer]

Wow. The game resumed - thankfully on a Friday, right before my hugely busy weekend! Did a quick glance on what happened overnight, and did a quick glance on the posts from pg 85-here on 86.
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Turns out there were 2 deaths on n1, 1 on n2, 3 on n3.
Based on what's been speculated, I think multiball is something feasible to consider.
I'm thinking there's something along the lines of Town Vig somewhere with multiple scum teams OR a scum team v SK v town OR scum team v SK v town w/ Vigilante.

The last scenario seems most likely to me, with the information presented and what FM experience I have under my belt.
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I 've been reviewing dead people's ISOs before n3, and was analyzing Egg's wagon analysis.
I have an idea for this phase that I'm not sure if it's a good enough idea, but I've been considering it for a long time. I'm hoping someone will catch what I'm hinting at and provide feedback.
More to come later, as I catch up more closely.

[Aristophanes]

I was going to go through and see of you crumbled something so I could provide feedback, but that's an awful lot of work.
Also, I agree the latter of the setups is most likely. I have said as much in a "saved" post, which will emerge with my chain of analysis posts.

These are, however, on hold for the weekend, as I am V/la unless I set aside a night after work and pour hours into this (possible, but unlikely).

[Aristophanes]

I should have bolded that.

V/la until Monday

[Performer]

I was going to go through and see of you crumbled something so I could provide feedback, but that's an awful lot of work.
Also, I agree the latter of the setups is most likely. I have said as much in a "saved" post, which will emerge with my chain of analysis posts.

These are, however, on hold for the weekend, as I am V/la unless I set aside a night after work and pour hours into this (possible, but unlikely).

I have not crumbed anything regarding my idea, so no worries. I might just bring it up directly a little later in the phase, maybe on Monday.

I'm sad to see you're V/LA so quickly, though it's known that you're V/LA for weekends anyway. : /
This virtually means we have 3 people on V/LA - though ilikebug and Yume, I'm not liking them much. Same goes for Drip.

[Aristophanes]

Yeah, I hadn't thought about it, but that does suck..
I will do my best to be here for current events type stuff, doubt I'll get my analysis done though.

DGB had been okay, but I'm done defending them. Their insistence on a Yume lynch yesterday was ridiculous. As I said, they seemed almost to be a lyncher, though those aren't "normal" and probably aren't likely in a game that seems to have 2 killing factions already.

Also, who was the single death N2? I forget, but it probably means both scum attacked them. Perhaps rereading their posts is a good idea.
And condemning some who pushed immediate shade onto Guy for "Not being around to submit a kill."
Possible scum going for an easy mislynch in that group!

[Performer]

Yeah, I hadn't thought about it, but that does suck..
I will do my best to be here for current events type stuff, doubt I'll get my analysis done though.

DGB had been okay, but I'm done defending them. Their insistence on a Yume lynch yesterday was ridiculous. As I said, they seemed almost to be a lyncher, though those aren't "normal" and probably aren't likely in a game that seems to have 2 killing factions already.

Also, who was the single death N2? I forget, but it probably means both scum attacked them. Perhaps rereading their posts is a good idea.
And condemning some who pushed immediate shade onto Guy for "Not being around to submit a kill."
Possible scum going for an easy mislynch in that group!

Hmm.. nothing that hugely stands from 85-86 right after the n3 phase, except I noted KAAG and Kill voted you. I don't think you're scum anymore though.

I'm curious, why do you think "both scum" attacked Egg rather than other possibilities?

Rach I don't recall you stating any large push against the lurking Oz slot before n3 (who I erroneously read as town for his note of replacing out). What caused you to suddenly tell us this?

[KuroiXHF]

VOTE: DrippingGoofball

And I'll keep it there since nothing has changed since yesterday regarding him and I still think he's scummy.

[Aristophanes]

I think it's a possibility we must consider, as I don't think our potential Doc is doing well this game, should we have one.

^ @Perf

[Performer]

Reviewed pg 2 of Frag & Oz's ISOs, and not too certain of what to make of their interactions with SS. SS's posts of pushing on Frag...seemed a little over-calculated to me.

Another interesting note is how Frag consistently accused Fire of being a PR, of how he wasn't teamed with Fire & Ari - and despite all that posting about Fire's possible power, Fire is still alive. This has my mind going into Wonderville on full-time. Sigh.

[Performer]

I think it's a possibility we must consider, as I don't think our potential Doc is doing well this game, should we have one.

^ @Perf

This has been something I've been thinking of, quite often: possible doc, possible bp, possible jk, some sort of commuter/hider, someone who missed their nk action - regarding n2 that is.

Considering all the flips - I think the PRs in town haven't been doing so hot. That and we don't have much power in this town.

[Firebringer]

I find it hard to believe town wouldn't check the flips before posting;

I actually pulled it up on my mobile phone. But my mobile phone didn't want to open all the spoilers it only openned Drixx, and showed town. So I was like okay, cant see rest will assume they were also town, I know bad. Then got on computer started posting and was like "Ohh I should actually check Ozgin and Fragger flips" then saw my horrible mistake lol.

[Performer]

I find it hard to believe town wouldn't check the flips before posting;

I actually pulled it up on my mobile phone. But my mobile phone didn't want to open all the spoilers it only openned Drixx, and showed town. So I was like okay, cant see rest will assume they were also town, I know bad. Then got on computer started posting and was like "Ohh I should actually check Ozgin and Fragger flips" then saw my horrible mistake lol.

Fire you always say you have late-game potential. We need all the help we can get.

[Performer]

@Fire what do you make of Frag's consistent mention of you being some PR, yet you're still alive? Is it simply...fluff from him? Am I reading too much into that?