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Zulfy Mafia Scum
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I actually kinda like toolenduso's response to me in 1084. I don't think there's harm in speculating on information that someone is choosing to conceal and whether that concealed information is good for the town, but taking a strong stance like this feels town to me, even if it's the opposite of how I feel.
anyone who thinks that Dunnstral is a good person to lynch right now is... wrong? not paying any attention? poorly perceiving the entire flow of this game? I guess I'm not surprised by the wagon on me (and I've still not had sufficient time to work on any longer posts with more substantial analysis, but I'm trying), but... I honestly can't fathom believing that the person who's done the most to really critically analyze other players and take meaningful stances on things is scummy, especially when no one has offered any real reason for it other than incredibly reachy things trying to connect him to h_a in ways that don't make any sense. anime jazz hands is the worst possible lynch
I wrote this paragraph like 5 pages ago and now people are seriously leaving my wagon to vote for Dunnstral, which is just... so comically bad. next thing you know someone's gonna vote Tyler and someone's gonna ask why and the response is just gonna be "b/c scum"
here's some thoughts from the last several pages
Jake saying that town doesn't mud sling (1166) is hilariously hypocritical and no one had done as much mud-slinging as he has
1170 (Dunnstral) - I mean I've definitely said that Jake was scum, although I've been shifting in the "he's comically wrong" direction for a while now
1173 (zakk) - oh come on are you honestly citing something that happenedafterDunnstral's 1170 as proof that Dunnstral was wrong? I mean, I agree that 1170 is factually incorrect, but this is an embarrassingly bad argument.
I'm fine with Bins' response re:role fishing in 1186.
1192 (Jake) - I'm concerned about this post and it doesn't feel town at all.
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zakk Jack of All Trades
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toolenduso Mafia Scum
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Looks like I got some catching up to do...tomorrow.
I'm two out of three now. Hope to finish it off and catch up and post and stuff tomorrow.In post 1154, Bins wrote:Tyler, I'm waiting for input from Keyser and Tool and xy before I place my vote."Half of the game is figuring out who the scum is. The other half is convincing everyone else that you're right." -- PlaysWithSquirrels, in Newbie 437-
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Jake from State Farm Survivor
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I don't fee like I've slung any mud at all cause everything I've said is basically the truth. (With the exception of parts where I made mistakes and later corrected myself)In post 1203, xyzzy wrote:Jake saying that town doesn't mud sling (1166) is hilariously hypocritical and no one had done as much mud-slinging as he hasShowThings I've learned.
1. It's just a game, have fun.
2. Don't waste time on people who think you are scum. Ignore them and keep scum hunting.
3. Don't take everything so personal.
4. Tunneling sucks (unfortunately I can't seem to stop)-
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Not sure I'd call that a slip-up...in #373, floof says she "thinks" HA was following bandwagons. The train of thought seemed to be floof basing reasoning on something she thought she'd seen earlier in the game without going back to double-check. Not the greatest way to go about doing things, but not necessarily a slip.In post 1148, Dunnstral wrote:
See this is actually productive. Floof slips up here, and doesn't even realize why he's voting h_aIn post 376, Floof wrote:
The consensus at the time was Jake was scum/null I thoughtIn post 375, Jake from State Farm wrote:
How could he be following bandwagons when he didn't really join a bandwagon?In post 373, Floof wrote:He was dodging the game and his only post was a vote on my town read. I think he was just following bandwagons at the time which is scummy. I am pretty confident he will flip scum at this point to be honest.
My thoughts exactly.In post 1171, Tyler the Creator wrote:get a load of zakk fanning the flames of a tvt
If she's scum trying to out a PR, why say it explicitly in the thread and then say that it's not right? In other words, how does that get the PR to out? It's not like Jake, as a PR, would go "Oh no, you were right I'm a PR."In post 1195, Dunnstral wrote:I've been giving bins the benefit of the doubt for a while now. I'm not sure why they think outting who they think is pr is a good idea."Half of the game is figuring out who the scum is. The other half is convincing everyone else that you're right." -- PlaysWithSquirrels, in Newbie 437-
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Well you could argue that his "why not just full claim" comment as an attempt to get me to figure out if I'm actually a pr or somebody who's just confident in his reads. Anyone who knows me though will know I can get pretty hard headed once I make my mind up on my reads.ShowThings I've learned.
1. It's just a game, have fun.
2. Don't waste time on people who think you are scum. Ignore them and keep scum hunting.
3. Don't take everything so personal.
4. Tunneling sucks (unfortunately I can't seem to stop)-
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toolenduso Mafia Scum
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Eh...I just can't really wrap my head around the mindset where somebody would think that would work and get the PR to out themselves or drop a big hint or something.In post 1210, Jake from State Farm wrote:Well you could argue that his "why not just full claim" comment as an attempt to get me to figure out if I'm actually a pr or somebody who's just confident in his reads.
Also I think you missed this question from me earlier:
In post 1008, toolenduso wrote:
What do you think of HA's interactions with Dunn?In post 867, Jake from State Farm wrote:Would have more fun if people would help me lynch scum but nobody seems to want to"Half of the game is figuring out who the scum is. The other half is convincing everyone else that you're right." -- PlaysWithSquirrels, in Newbie 437-
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We needa just take out dunn you guys should stop fucking around think this is a game??In post 1207, Jake from State Farm wrote:
I don't fee like I've slung any mud at all cause everything I've said is basically the truth. (With the exception of parts where I made mistakes and later corrected myself)In post 1203, xyzzy wrote:Jake saying that town doesn't mud sling (1166) is hilariously hypocritical and no one had done as much mud-slinging as he has-
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i'm getting very bored of this game and i haven't even finished reading it.
dunn is like 95.8% noise (i.e. worse than animorpherv1)-
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toolenduso Mafia Scum
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Aight. So. A while ago Tyler asked me what order my scumreads were in, and all I said was that he was third behind xyzzy and zakk.
The reason I did this was because my vote on xyzzy was purely for the purpose of starting a counterwagon, and I didn't want that to influence people's interactions with the wagon. It occurred to me that D2 had been pretty focused on zakk, and I liked the idea of setting up a choice for scum to make between voting xyzzy and voting zakk. Depending on flips, the choices people made could be useful later on.
That being said, I did not expect a sort of mini-wagon on Dunn to get going amid all of it...
Anyway, while I was giving people time to interact with the wagons I decided to go through the ISOs of my top three scumreads, ignoring the interactions with HA (which I've already covered) so I can focus on other parts of their play. Here's that:
Spoiler: xyzzy
Overall xyzzy looks worse than I thought. The interactions with HA (from both perspectives) are not good, the posting and voting arcs are a little confusing and possibly event contradictory, and there's a general air of trying not to open themselves up too much.
Spoiler: Floof/zakk
This slot still looks super scummy, and I don't like zakk trying to get a Dunn wagon going either.
Spoiler: Tyler
Probably the biggest thing here is that Tyler's voted for HA, floof/zakk and xyzzy. That is tough for me to reconcile with him being scum. His ISO also gave me some townfeels.
VOTE: zakk"Half of the game is figuring out who the scum is. The other half is convincing everyone else that you're right." -- PlaysWithSquirrels, in Newbie 437-
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Nice calculations Einstein, 95.8% huh, care to show your work on that one?zakk wrote:i'm getting very bored of this game and i haven't even finished reading it.
dunn is like 95.8% noise (i.e. worse than animorpherv1)
Alright let me make an executive decision as the town leader here: vote zakk. Still feeling much better about this than xyzzy
Yes this game has stagnated;
Bins you seem to be having trouble figuring out where to place your vote. Let mehelpyou on this one: vote zakk
Tool I see you've switched to zakk
Keyser I've got no idea where you're at with your thoughts
Robert.... where'd you go.... again
Jaack not sure how you feel about this either-
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zakk Jack of All Trades
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Jake from State Farm Survivor
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Kind of weird, kind of hard to put into words especially without going back and reading them again but I don't think they really reveal much. I think dunn's actions were more telling. But I've covered thatIn post 1211, toolenduso wrote:
Eh...I just can't really wrap my head around the mindset where somebody would think that would work and get the PR to out themselves or drop a big hint or something.In post 1210, Jake from State Farm wrote:Well you could argue that his "why not just full claim" comment as an attempt to get me to figure out if I'm actually a pr or somebody who's just confident in his reads.
Also I think you missed this question from me earlier:
In post 1008, toolenduso wrote:
What do you think of HA's interactions with Dunn?In post 867, Jake from State Farm wrote:Would have more fun if people would help me lynch scum but nobody seems to want toShowThings I've learned.
1. It's just a game, have fun.
2. Don't waste time on people who think you are scum. Ignore them and keep scum hunting.
3. Don't take everything so personal.
4. Tunneling sucks (unfortunately I can't seem to stop)-
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Dude you really need to remove Robert from your listIn post 1217, Jaack wrote:zakk is like my number 4 lynch choice after robert, xyzzy, and bins, but xyzzy is the only one of those that seems to have a chance at happening right now.
Eh whatever. Better to have a vote on a wagon than not
VOTE: zakk
That's L-1ShowThings I've learned.
1. It's just a game, have fun.
2. Don't waste time on people who think you are scum. Ignore them and keep scum hunting.
3. Don't take everything so personal.
4. Tunneling sucks (unfortunately I can't seem to stop)-
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Jake from State Farm Survivor
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No replacing out is stupid.In post 1219, zakk wrote:brb replacing out cause this is stupidShowThings I've learned.
1. It's just a game, have fun.
2. Don't waste time on people who think you are scum. Ignore them and keep scum hunting.
3. Don't take everything so personal.
4. Tunneling sucks (unfortunately I can't seem to stop)-
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You have no right to talk while voting meIn post 1222, Jake from State Farm wrote:
Dude you really need to remove Robert from your listIn post 1217, Jaack wrote:zakk is like my number 4 lynch choice after robert, xyzzy, and bins, but xyzzy is the only one of those that seems to have a chance at happening right now.
Eh whatever. Better to have a vote on a wagon than not
VOTE: zakk
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