Mini 1781: Plotinus Mafia: Game Over

[RadiantCowbells]

If you drive somewhere other than NM and it flips town I speedvote you tomorrow.

[Gorkington]

why do you think youll be alive tomorrow mr rolecop?

[Gorkington]

if i were scum i would like the idea of carrying you to endgame because killing good people is lame as scum, but i would also have to be stupid not to kill you at this point.

[RadiantCowbells]

I made my statement.

[Gorkington]

burp.

[RadiantCowbells]

The only direction I'm okay with today is NM. You are subverting that.
You subverted my Androgy push yesterday and we hit town.
You subverted the FA push on D1 and we ended up hitting town.

If you're town you've either subverted at least one scum lynch that I've tried to make or the scumteam is
Aristophanes/Roshar/Titus.
Which are literally my townreads in order, bar perhaps Roshar.

And I'm 100% not lynching in that pile because that's basically my townreads in order.
So, me not happy. My reads are blinkering in general because of lack of effort but I have a fuckton more info this game than I usually do and I have a bunch of people that I read easily.

NM/FA/Gork/AB make up all of the remaining scum, I'm fairly sure, and considering the FA/you/NM associatives being horrible all around I'm lynching in them.
FA's ability makes him virtually unlynchable. You are you.
So the only thing we're agreeing on here is NM.

[Gorkington]

NM/FA/Gork/AB make up all of the remaining scum, I'm fairly sure, and considering the FA/you/NM associatives being horrible all around I'm lynching in them.

i would literally bet my entire reputation that this is wrong.

[Gorkington]

like.
if two scum are in this pile, then take away my banner and put me in a retirement home.
thats how confident i am.

[Ether]

Day 3, Votecount 6

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1 No Lynch (androgybee)
1 RadiantCowbells (Not_Mafia)

6 Unvote (Aristophanes, Fire Assassin, Gorkington, RadiantCowbells, Roshar, Titus)

With 8 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.
The deadline is in (expired on 2016-05-12 14:00:00), or on Thursday, May 12th at 2:00 pm EDT.

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Plotinus has never, ever dropped a scumtell. They have never done anything as scum that they would not also have done as town in the same position. This cannot be falsified, as Plotinus has never been town and may in fact be incapable of drawing town roles.

[Gorkington]

a roleblocker and a rolecop is not strong enough for town in this setup and you fucking know it.

[RadiantCowbells]

I'm not voting outside of it.

I can do NM, maybe do FA. But you supporting one probs means I want to vote the other sooo.

a roleblocker and a rolecop is not strong enough for town in this setup and you fucking know it.

Ehm.
Thinking of it as NM/FA.

FA's role is scummy as fuck.
I bet NM's is as well.

If whoever the SK is has a sketchy ass role as well then my role is pretty strong.

[Gorkington]

FA is firebringer.
you really think this is firebringer's scumgame?

[Gorkington]

and FA's role is broken af for scum and a potential counterbalance to your role if you are town and hes town.

[Gorkington]

like the only way that this setup isnt terrible is if only one of you/andro/NM is fakeclaiming, theres two mafia and one SK.

[RadiantCowbells]

I'm well aware of that.
I don't really know how to read Firebringer?

I'm scumreading him more from associatives with NM.
If you want to townread him I'm content not lynching him today if he executioners Not_Mafia.
I'm not letting him get an early endgame.

and FA's role is broken af for scum and a potential counterbalance to your role if you are town and hes town.

I agree, but this setup feels imbalanced as fuck anyway. And if the other partner is weak it works out-ish for 2v1v10 with 2 town investigatives?
FA makes sense as a serial killer on that note.

[RadiantCowbells]

But that requires AB to be town which I doubt.

[Gorkington]

like if this is somehow 2/2/9 or 3/1/9 with the PR distribution town has and anyone is fakeclaiming then im gonna be really pissed at yimmy.

[RadiantCowbells]

I've spent way longer on this game than I intended to.

Ignoring setup speculation, NM is scummy as all shit.
His claim is bogus and feels like scum trying to not get nightkilled by other scum.

FA's role is nearly valueless if town and insanely dangerous to leave in the hands of scum.
We lynch NM using FA's executioner. thank you.

[RadiantCowbells]

I don't like town trackers, sorry

VOTE: androgybee

Translation: I don't believe the claim

This all seems very pointless to fake, but some of andro's posts in their spam rant felt super scum

VOTE: RadiantCowballs

this look town to you?

[RadiantCowbells]

Like even claiming bulletproof townie is so bad.

[Gorkington]

im gonna isodive not-mafia tonight.

im really hating your characterizing me as being the reason for iece/xkfyu lynches though.

[RadiantCowbells]

I'm not saying that.

I'm saying you've been hard defending at least one scum this game.

You need to think through who that could be.

[Gorkington]

i really dont disagree with FA using their execution today.
i just really dont trust you at all.

that youre painting these things as being my fault when you drove the xkfyu lynch and hammered iece?
like. if titus is scum [which honestly jury is still out to some degree, im really skeeved by how much shes townreading me], then wouldnt that be you who drove the counterwagon on scum?

[Gorkington]

I'm saying you've been hard defending at least one scum this game.

i dont think its FA.
it could be NM and im not even really saying that i townread him at this point.

[Gorkington]

im happy im not frustrated right now, but this game is still a bag of feelings that im not parsing well.