Mini 1783: GTA 2 Mafia (GaME OVAH)

[shos]

Deadline is in

(expired on 2016-05-08 16:35:11).

With 9 alive, it takes 5 votes for a lynch.

VC 2.2

Votecount #2.2

Dwlee99

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FA_Q2

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BlackStar

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Masquerade

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Ircher

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TheDominator37

(2) - MagnaofIllusion, Polar Vortex.

MagnaofIllusion

(1) - BlackStar.

Polar Vortex

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A Real Scourge

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NOT VOTING (6) - Masquerade, FA_Q2, Ircher, A Real Scourge, TheDominator37, Dwlee99.

NOTICE:

1. A Real Scourge is being replaced. Still haven't got a replacement there.
2. Please note my post 1020. The idea that I phrased all role PMs sort of the same, but not exactly, go with the flow. Unless it is clear that I was talking about something specific, don't try to get info from the wording of PMs. If anyone has questions regarding their OWN role PMs in light of this, PM me.
3. Dwlee99 is taking over the hydra account The Banterlords.

[Polar Vortex]

Back for V/LA –

Well just a quick scan of thread tells me I don’t have time to mess around with this stupid wagon on me. So I’m claiming.

I’m and Informed Survivor (SMS Computer Algorithm). That’s right I’m 3rd party. I win if I survive til the end of the game regardless of who wins. I got three pieces of information in my role PM about the set-up itself.

1. There is a lyncher in the game.
2. There are two 3rd Parties in game.
3. There are at least three different possible kill sources in the game.

My play surrounding Ranger was 100% based on the fact that his lazy call of me as 100% scum without so much as building a case was a strong player replacing into the lyncher slot with me as the target. Now that Diamond has actually flipped that role and is still a non-3rd party (argue if you want but Semi-Town is still Town) I’m in agreement we have a Serial Killer in the game. Because

if the other lyncher was not 3rd Party

I don’t see any other reasonable non-Bastard roles that fulfill the second piece of information (since I am the first 3rd Party role).

What other lyncher?

[MagnaofIllusion]

What other lyncher?

It was a typo - it should have read "If the lyncher was not 3rd party"

[Polar Vortex]

Really? Because after BBT's death, two lynchers kinda make sense.

-Snow

[BlackStar]

I think that dk's death would be because of a strongman.

Oh yeah didn't even think about that, that's a good possibility.

Blackstar, why magna?

BBT was voting him and ended up getting killed. I don't think we should just ignore that

[MagnaofIllusion]

Really? Because after BBT's death, two lynchers kinda make sense.

-Snow

Looking at the construct I probably started typing 'other supposed 3rd party' and decided that was awkward as hell, replaced it with lyncher and didn't to a top notch job in editing out it.

And clearly there is not a second lyncher since my Role PM only specified one. And despite Role Madness this game is not Bastard and thus directly lying to me is not something Shos could be doing.

[Dwlee99]

You know "a lyncher" is in the game. It wouldn't be lying if there were two.

[Polar Vortex]

And clearly there is not a second lyncher since my Role PM only specified one. And despite Role Madness this game is not Bastard and thus directly lying to me is not something Shos could be doing.

Well, if anyone is lying it'd be you, not Shos...

[MagnaofIllusion]

You know "a lyncher" is in the game. It wouldn't be lying if there were two.

I suppose the lack of the words one / only makes this true. But god that would be really, really close to the edge of "Literal Genie" style language and given the other flips so far Shos seems to be pretty clear (ie BBT's role specifically saying he could be Molotoved).

[Dwlee99]

You know "a lyncher" is in the game. It wouldn't be lying if there were two.

I suppose the lack of the words one / only makes this true. But god that would be really, really close to the edge of "Literal Genie" style language and given the other flips so far Shos seems to be pretty clear (ie BBT's role specifically saying he could be Molotoved).

*shrug*

[Masquerade]

BBT was voting him and ended up getting killed. I don't think we should just ignore that

Ok, lets talk. Why would BBT be the one to get daykilled when he wasn't the only one on magna's wagon today?

[Masquerade]

Also, Blackstar, what did you think of magna's claim?

[BlackStar]

Also, Blackstar, what did you think of magna's claim?

I don't believe him. Hence the vote

[BlackStar]

BBT was voting him and ended up getting killed. I don't think we should just ignore that

Ok, lets talk. Why would BBT be the one to get daykilled when he wasn't the only one on magna's wagon today?

*shrugs* I guess I could look through his posts again

[Ircher]

BBT wasn't wildly suspected; in fact, he was rather townread. That's a good reason for a SK or scum to get rid of him.

[FA_Q2]

I’m and Informed Survivor (SMS Computer Algorithm). That’s right I’m 3rd party. I win if I survive til the end of the game regardless of who wins. I got three pieces of information in my role PM about the set-up itself.

1. There is a lyncher in the game.
2. There are two 3rd Parties in game.
3. There are at least three different possible kill sources in the game.

Your claim mentions that there are 2 3p and you are one of them. That would mean that either there is not another 3p or DK was not considered 3p. His role did claim psudo-town but I still took that as something that would be considered a 3p role.

Anyone have any comments on this? Am I reading to much into the wording here?

[FA_Q2]

Also, if there are 3 killing sources that would mean that scum and DK would be confirmed as 2 of the sources. If we have a town killing role that failed to make a kill last night cycle that would confirm that magna is lying ergo scum. Otherwise, if the above is just me over analyzing, I would be inclined to believe his claim.

[Masquerade]

Dragon Knight is dead. He was a Bulletproof

Semitown

-Lyncher, 1-shot Strongman, 1-shot Dayvig, 1-shot Nightvig.

[Dwlee99]

Dragon Knight is dead. He was a Bulletproof

Semitown

-Lyncher, 1-shot Strongman, 1-shot Dayvig, 1-shot Nightvig.

[Masquerade]

If we have a town killing role that failed to make a kill last night cycle that would confirm that magna is lying ergo scum. Otherwise, if the above is just me over analyzing, I would be inclined to believe his claim.

I don't really get this part. There can be multiple reasons why a kill could be missing if that even is the case.
Feels more like rolefishing if you ask me..

[FA_Q2]

If we have a town killing role that failed to make a kill last night cycle that would confirm that magna is lying ergo scum. Otherwise, if the above is just me over analyzing, I would be inclined to believe his claim.

I don't really get this part. There can be multiple reasons why a kill could be missing if that even is the case.
Feels more like rolefishing if you ask me..

Then you are not thinking. It has nothing to do with a 'missing' kill. It has to do with his claim.

He claims there are 3 kill sources. 3.

Scum is one.
DK is another.

That leave ONE more source. IF that source is town and they did not make the night kill then that means there must be 4 sources out there. Ergo, that claim is a direct lie and he is scum. If it was a town that made the kill they should remain silent - it would not confirm he was scum.

[FA_Q2]

Dragon Knight is dead. He was a Bulletproof

Semitown

-Lyncher, 1-shot Strongman, 1-shot Dayvig, 1-shot Nightvig.

Yes yes, I seen that he was a 'semi-town.' What that means though was not totally clear to me. It seems that you are both stating that means he would be aligned with town though.

[FA_Q2]

^at least as far as the 3p alignment goes.

[FA_Q2]

I think that VOTE: Dom is the best wagon thus far.

[Dwlee99]

Not sure what I unvoted dom?
VOTE: Dom