Mini 1781: Plotinus Mafia: Game Over

[Titus]

Lynching you is dumb if we think you're town. It doesn't prove you right, only genuine.

[androgybee]

They don't think I'm town and I'm honestly just sick of having to worry about convincing them otherwise.

-Nahdia

[Gorkington]

zzzzz
willing to wait for a maruchan replacement and other people to catch up.
probably just going to shut up in the meantime because im feeling particularly prickly atm.

[Ether]

Day 2, Votecount 32

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5 Iecerint (Aristophanes, Not_Mafia, androgybee, Roshar, Ircher)
2 androgybee (Iecerint, Gorkington)
1 Gorkington (RadiantCowbells)
1 Ircher (Titus)

2 Unvote (Fire Assassin, Maruchan)

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.
The deadline is in (expired on 2016-05-02 18:00:00), or on Monday, May 2nd at 6:00 pm EDT.

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Plotinus is the second Mafiascum user to have a scummie award named after them¹. Before they joined the site, the award was called Rising Star.

¹ The first was of course Don Corleone, who was banned from the site in 2007 after having a disobedient scumbuddy executed in real life.

[RadiantCowbells]

VOTE: Ether

[Not_Mafia]

Hmmmmm no

[Ircher]

Someone should hammer.

[Titus]

Iec, claim.

[Fire Assassin]

What happened to the Androgybee wagon?
Slightly confused here.

20 some pages I have missed.

[Ircher]

Hammer away! Ice already refused to claim when I asked earlier. (He just ignored me)

[Gorkington]

:/
my comfort level for ircher is going down.
and my comfort level is naively going up for titus.
zzzzz.

[Ircher]

@Ice : You are practically L-1. Now is the time to claim.

like, youre calling andro scum, but also simultaneously justifying their lynch because of info.
like.
i dont care about info.
info comes from any lynch.
moreso, info comes from pushing lynches.
an iece push with any significant backbone will give information.
there are people resistant to the wagon.
slow to jump on.
people ignoring it.

plenty of information.
super questionable that youre ignoring it just because of an apparent lack of information, especially since ari posted a case.

Good, my town feels are coming back.

Huh? They left?

@Ice
There is a case against you, you know?

Cases are bullshit. The point of cases is that they can give insight into how a person is thinking about the game.

Titus mad a IecTown case at a time when it was inessential to her earlier today. Nothing has changed since that time AFAIK.

If you're saying that Titus made or explicitly endorsed a case at some point after that and I missed it, ya that would help me interpret what's up. But otherwise, nah.

[Ircher]

See, completely ignored me. I already told him he was practically L-1; I just made that the case with my vote yesterday; yet still no claim. So, Ice is scum.

[Gorkington]

ircher.
if youre town.
theres literally no reason to rush a hammer.

we're going to be sitting in night cycle waiting for a maru replacement.
an iece claim could change gamestate, and no him not having claimed yet is not a scumclaim.
i dont understand why people act like things that arent scumclaims are scumclaims.
-.-

[Roshar]

Titus i right to call Ircher's vote on me terrible when they had just caught up on me and called my latest posts "Very Town Indicative". also they just said they buy the AtE. their reasons for voting me in 1728 aren't scumreads at all, they're... i don't fucking know. would scum honestly do this? it's insane.[/spoiler]

This pretty much summarized my thought on the Ircher vote on Androgy. And a lot of the things Ircher has been doing starting from early D1. I really really need to meta him. Are you still town reading Ircher?

At this point I can vote for you without putting you at L-1, so I did so. That's the only reason I didn't last time. I said as much in my post.

I don't want to lynch Titus.

Are you willing to lynch Andro?

Wouldn't you want to engage the person who don't think is town though?

Your point is you want to engage the person you can get through, but its coming off as you wanting to avoid conflict.

You were willing to read Maru's posts on Ircher (knowing that Maru makes walls for posts) but you ignored mine which came before Maru's. And it wasn't one, it was at least three posts, so finding it kinda hard to believe.

I get interested in the game by finding common ground with people with whom I have mutual town reads.

I know Maru from GD, and he posts in this game exactly the same way that he posts in GD. They can be long, but they're not hard to read. Short sentences, simple words, lots of exclamatory phrases.

Your posts are like reading Tierce posts or something. I'll do it when I have to if we both live that long.

You'll only start sorting me near the end of the game?

Alright. Ive reconsidered.

In fairness, we DONT want to risk lynching a town pr tonight. Furthermore, since I can buy the argument about the inconsistent reads, and since AtE is used frequently by both alignments, it's really null, regardless the amount. Therefore, I no longer have a case for an Andro lynch, and so cannot support it.

On the other hand, the more I think about it, the more suspicious Ice is, and since there IS a decent case there, I CAN support such a lynch.

So, as ot stands, I'd lynch Ice right now. I have no clue as to buddies though.

(My vote, if I placed it, would be l-1 I believe, so I wont vote yet)

This reads as so overly contrived!

I should probably give this slot a good reading. The recent posts just don't sit right.

Gah. I can't decide if this reads as town conforming or contrived when he essentially reversed his stance when andro and gork engaged with him.

[Roshar]

In terms of Andro.

I've played with town beeboy before and I've fully experienced the brunt of his playstyle as he tunneled me endlessly. He was super inconsistent with all other reads other than myself. Our main scum reads he avoided voicing an opinion on and when prodded, he town read them. Only when he was about to get lynched (like literally at L-1) did he suddenly scum read one of them. He was lynched D2 for many other inconsistencies.

My read on the Andro interaction isn't coming out of nowhere. Other than tracking the dead guy for little reason part.

@Gork, you've said before that you can read beeboy confidently. What's the difference between scum beeboy and town beeboy?

[Ircher]

ircher.
if youre town.
theres literally no reason to rush a hammer.

we're going to be sitting in night cycle waiting for a maru replacement.
an iece claim could change gamestate, and no him not having claimed yet is not a scumclaim.
i dont understand why people act like things that arent scumclaims are scumclaims.
-.-

Meh. Ok, we can wait, since Maru still needs a replacement.

[Gorkington]

@Gork, you've said before that you can read beeboy confidently. What's the difference between scum beeboy and town beeboy?

its mainly a tone thing.
scumbeeboy just doesnt feel like a real person trying to figure things out in a game.
my confidence in that got a little shaken with all of the noise in this game.

[Ircher]

Whom.... Who to nk N2

JK

[Titus]

ircher.
if youre town.
theres literally no reason to rush a hammer.

we're going to be sitting in night cycle waiting for a maru replacement.
an iece claim could change gamestate, and no him not having claimed yet is not a scumclaim.
i dont understand why people act like things that arent scumclaims are scumclaims.
-.-

Gork, site meta has changed.

This is drunk Titus so please don't ask me to rant about site meta. I'll get really depressing and demotivating.

[androgybee]

Could be worse. epicmafia site meta is to find one player who is clear by role mechanics, and have everyone selfvote and shut up while they decide who to hammer.

-Nahdia

[Ircher]

I think I'll NK _________

[Gorkington]

Gork, site meta has changed.

not sure i understand?
maybe a postgame talk?

[Aristophanes]

Whom.... Who to nk N2

JK

I think I'll NK _________

Dafuq even are you doing, Ircher?

[Ircher]

^H

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^o

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Pedit: Messing around