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Post Post #1175 (ISO) » Wed Apr 20, 2016 4:01 am

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Day 2, Votecount 4


2 Ircher (Roshar, Fire Assassin)
2 Maruchan (Ircher, Titus)
2 Titus (Iecerint, Not_Mafia)

5 Unvote (androgybee, Aristophanes, Gorkington, Maruchan, RadiantCowbells)

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.
The deadline is in (expired on 2016-05-02 18:00:00), or on Monday, May 2nd at 6:00 pm EDT.


Titus officially replaces Minsc and Boo.
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Post Post #1176 (ISO) » Wed Apr 20, 2016 4:40 am

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No, thats the reason @Rosh
The argument weaker now, yes, but I still say that it diminishes my scumread some.
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Post Post #1177 (ISO) » Wed Apr 20, 2016 6:13 am

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The following quoates are in chronological order to show how stupid they are.


In post 970, Ircher wrote:
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Likely Scum
(76%-100% Confidence)
Maruchan (-81%) - OMGUS! But seriously, your tunnel on me is rather ridiculous and you need to broaden your horizons a lot. This extremely narrow focus is indicative of either bad townplay or scumplay imo.
Minsc (-83%) - Many minor things here and there rub me the wrong way. Furthermore, I see a lack of effort from this slot which further suggests scum.

Here, we learn that minsc is Ircher's moist blatant scumread.
In post 1112, Ircher wrote:I'm still very suspect of Maruchan and to a lesser extent, Minsc

Here, we learn, AFTER the lynch, that Ircher says he suspects BOTH maruchan AND minsc, who were as quoted above, his most blatant scumreads
In post 1132, Ircher wrote:Aristo brought X to L-1. I jumped cuz it looked like Maru was trying to mislynch Minsc via quickhammer, failed, and then went to try to bus his partner,

Apparently it is possible to MISLYNCH (as in lynch wrongly, IE: a townie) smeone who you have BLATANTLY said is your scummiest scumread, AND who you BLATANTLY SAID yo uSTILL suspected, AFTER the lynch and flip of xk as town. So you think minsc is stil lscum (1112), but you think I was trying to mislynch him? (1132) How does one mislynch scum exactly?
In post 1148, Ircher wrote:The failed hammer made me feel that Maru had confirmed Minsc as town, so therefore, I voted the other wagon and hammered.

wait wait wait wait wait wait
You said that my failed hammer made you read minsc as confirmed town? But 36 posts ago, 3 DAYS in REAL LIFE after the lynch on xk, you said you still suspected minsc. How do you suspect someone you have confirmed as town? I don't udnerstand. Are you lynign about your reads Ircher? Are you feeling pressured into explainign yourself so you're lying about previous reasons for your actions to protect yourself? Lynch all Liars.
In post 1154, Ircher wrote:Maru's vote flopping at the end of Day 1 made me think Minsc was town. Therefore, that meant my only other option was voting X.

But at the beginign of day two you expressed you suspected minsc. How do you suspect someone on day two right after the flip, who you thought was town on day one, right before the lynchhammer? I don't understand ircher, can you explain for me?


(still catching up from page 45 or so. just wanted to point out more Ircher=Blatant!Scum)
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Post Post #1178 (ISO) » Wed Apr 20, 2016 6:18 am

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Maru, regardless of what you think, don't throw insults.
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Post Post #1179 (ISO) » Wed Apr 20, 2016 6:21 am

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In post 1174, Roshar wrote:
In post 1172, Ircher wrote:
In post 1169, Roshar wrote:Yes, I can see that.

Did your scum read on Minsc diminish?

Yes.


Not b/c Maru voted him in D1, was it?

In post 1176, Ircher wrote:No, thats the reason @Rosh
The argument weaker now, yes, but I still say that it diminishes my scumread some.

Wait wait wait wait.
It dimishes yoru scumread *SOME*?

Twice now you've used town related adjectives referring to minsc. I quoted them i nym last post. the first one was "Confirmed minsc as town" CONFIRMED< now town-read, not a town-indicator, my vote to you CONFIRMED minsc as scum. You said this in day two. after both the flips. After you said yo ustill suspected minsc.
The second was "made me think minsc was town"

Now you're saying it only diminishes your scumread *SOME*?

You're read on minsc seams to be very wish ywashy back and forth here Irhcer. Is Minsc confirmed town, a town read, slightly suspect or dimished scumread? You've used all 4 ajectives regarding him in back and forth flipflop order today. First you said you slightly suspected him. Then, regarding yesterday's game day, you said the end-day made him vonfirmed town (which countered your slight suspect of him yes?), then he was just a town read, not confirmed town anymore. Now he's still a scumread but diminished? Which is it?
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Post Post #1180 (ISO) » Wed Apr 20, 2016 6:43 am

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Clarification:

At the end of D1, but before the flip, I saw Minsc as very likely to be town cuz of your failed hammer.
At the start of D2, my read was slightly weaker than the above, but still in that area.
Right now, after Rosh has pointed some of the flaws in my reasoning (albeit I still think you still got to answer a question or two), my read is now a diminished scumread.
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Post Post #1181 (ISO) » Wed Apr 20, 2016 6:44 am

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You're still my top priority ck.
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Post Post #1182 (ISO) » Wed Apr 20, 2016 7:39 am

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Your interpretation only really makes sense if Ircher is scum with Titus anyway, right? Since there's no reason to show a bias like that if both are town, and we know the flipped player was town.
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Post Post #1183 (ISO) » Wed Apr 20, 2016 8:44 am

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i really want a scumflip. these slow games get so much easier with a scumflip to parse. :c
if rest of work doesnt kick my ass today i might try to aim to iso 1-2 people tonight i guess.
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Post Post #1184 (ISO) » Wed Apr 20, 2016 8:51 am

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also titus if you dont want to be lamelynched you need to pick it up. because i will fully stand behind a deadline lynch on your slot if youre not doing something town soon.
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Post Post #1185 (ISO) » Wed Apr 20, 2016 1:05 pm

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I don't really have much to add other than Ircher needs more votes on him. Or Titus.
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Post Post #1186 (ISO) » Wed Apr 20, 2016 1:07 pm

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:(

I kinda get why Fire wants to lynch me, but could you be a bit more.... broad/open to other perspectives?
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Post Post #1187 (ISO) » Wed Apr 20, 2016 1:09 pm

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You have been mostly on the defensive as of late, who are your strongest scumreads as of this moment?
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Post Post #1188 (ISO) » Wed Apr 20, 2016 1:29 pm

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Maruchan and Ice.

Maru I already explained, even if you think the reasoning is poor.
Ice cuz he is doing a lot of lurking and hasnt contributed anything.

I guess that Minsc comes 3rd on my list, but that isnt quite as strong right now as the aforementioned ones.
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Post Post #1189 (ISO) » Wed Apr 20, 2016 3:19 pm

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In post 1184, Gorkington wrote:also titus if you dont want to be lamelynched you need to pick it up. because i will fully stand behind a deadline lynch on your slot if youre not doing something town soon.


Start with Maru.

P.S. Taxes suck shit. Radja got demotivated. I'm here now. Flag me shit you want thoughts on and I will give them.

P.S. 2 Don't threaten me with ooh lame lynch. I don't play VT and PR different for the most part since I lack an ovtown gene as town. Just vote me or not. Get reads. I don't respond to threats well.
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Post Post #1190 (ISO) » Wed Apr 20, 2016 3:22 pm

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its more me being sad than me threatening you.
i dont want to lamelynch anyone.
but if this game is in the gutter and 5-6 people arent producing any kind of content im gonna just roll with shit that happens out of apathy.
so fine, whoever's town out of the pile of zzzzzz please start being more town.
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Post Post #1191 (ISO) » Wed Apr 20, 2016 3:25 pm

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OK. Well take your happy pills and pass me some vodka.
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Post Post #1192 (ISO) » Wed Apr 20, 2016 11:40 pm

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In post 1182, Iecerint wrote:Your interpretation only really makes sense if Ircher is scum with Titus anyway, right? Since there's no reason to show a bias like that if both are town, and we know the flipped player was town.

@Maru
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Post Post #1193 (ISO) » Thu Apr 21, 2016 2:16 am

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I would like Maru's thoughts on people OTHER than me.
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Post Post #1194 (ISO) » Thu Apr 21, 2016 2:30 am

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I always have the games that I'm really interested in and those that its not so much. This is one of those latter games......
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Post Post #1195 (ISO) » Thu Apr 21, 2016 5:22 am

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@Iece, I'm not interpreting anything. I am literally showing a chronological analysis of ircher's "reads" on a SINGLE playerslot, that are flipflopping more than a dying fish. I didn't interpret them in any which way. I just pointed it out, so that it was blatantly obvious to everyone else.


I don't do team-hunting. Nothing of ircher's play only makes him look scummy IF someone else is also scum. Ircher is independantly scummy on his own.
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Post Post #1196 (ISO) » Thu Apr 21, 2016 5:27 am

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maruchan.
can you provide an example or two of someone that youve played with who, as scum, did some of the things youre saying are scummy about ircher's play?
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Post Post #1197 (ISO) » Thu Apr 21, 2016 5:28 am

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I just literally have

like 0 motivation to play mafia atm.

sorry.
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Post Post #1198 (ISO) » Thu Apr 21, 2016 5:29 am

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i feel you.
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Post Post #1199 (ISO) » Thu Apr 21, 2016 5:31 am

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tbh I think I'm making this break permanent after my ongoings are finished.
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