[OLD] Open Setup Discussion and Nominations

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Post Post #1400 (ISO) » Wed Oct 10, 2007 5:33 am

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I agree with Pooky.
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Post Post #1401 (ISO) » Wed Oct 10, 2007 5:42 am

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Oh, I don't disagree, necessarily. It just wasn't a serious suggestion for Open Games. If someone wants to run it as a Mini Theme, feel free. ;)
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Post Post #1402 (ISO) » Wed Oct 10, 2007 6:24 am

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lol

I'ld run it as a large theme with all of the justices suggested here. Person who wins in most gets a cookie.
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Post Post #1403 (ISO) » Wed Oct 10, 2007 7:28 am

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Justice Justice mafia


2 NK immune scum

8 NK immune one shot vigs

= )
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Post Post #1404 (ISO) » Wed Oct 10, 2007 7:51 am

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IH wrote:
Justice Justice mafia


2 NK immune scum

8 NK immune one shot vigs

= )
That's insanely imbalanced. If you don't limit the vig's to one shot, that could fix it.
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Post Post #1405 (ISO) » Wed Oct 10, 2007 10:51 am

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nominate vengeful
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Post Post #1406 (ISO) » Wed Oct 10, 2007 3:41 pm

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(Shaft you do know thats a joke setup that is essentially nightless mountainous, right?)
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Post Post #1407 (ISO) » Thu Oct 11, 2007 5:17 am

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(IH you do know that my reply was a joke since the vig's can't kill anybody anyway right?)

EDIT: And what are doing here, you've got a newbie game to post in.
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Post Post #1408 (ISO) » Thu Oct 11, 2007 10:00 am

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It was hard to tell it was a joke. I almost said something.

You're right that the setup is unbalanced though. Scum would have to be awesome to win that.
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Post Post #1409 (ISO) » Thu Oct 11, 2007 11:12 am

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Meh I go for dry humor. It was actually a nuanced joke, because it was actually imbalanced with 2 scum to 8 town nightless but what I suggested would do absolutely nothing to fix it and continued in the same vein as IH's first joke.
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Post Post #1410 (ISO) » Thu Oct 11, 2007 2:52 pm

Post by Ether »

Nominate Texas Justice
; the people who missed that sign-up could practically fill up a second game on their own.

Nominate 7-player Vengeful
; have we ever done one of those?

For the record, I quite liked Shafted's joke.
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Post Post #1411 (ISO) » Thu Oct 11, 2007 3:00 pm

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For all lovers of vanillaish Open games-Tree Stump mafia (3 Mafia, 9 Tree Stumps) is about to start taking signups in Mini Theme Queue.
I replaced into Chess Mafia for 6 months, and all I got was a win and this lousy sig.
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Post Post #1412 (ISO) » Thu Oct 11, 2007 3:01 pm

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Second Texas Justice. I liked several of the other Justices thrown about, but they're probably not Normal. Neither is AITP (or Vengeful, really...)
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Post Post #1413 (ISO) » Thu Oct 11, 2007 7:51 pm

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Propose Mafia and Werewolves


2 Mafia
2 Werewolves
1 Cop
1 Doctor
1 Seer
1 Angel
7 Townies

The Cop can only get guilty results on Mafia, not Werewolves, and the Doctor only protects from Mafia.

The Seer can only get guilty results on Werewolves, not Mafia, and the Angel only protects from Werewolves.
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Post Post #1414 (ISO) » Thu Oct 11, 2007 8:31 pm

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Mr. Flay wrote:Second Texas Justice. I liked several of the other Justices thrown about, but they're probably not Normal. Neither is AITP (or Vengeful, really...)
My feeling is that tolerance for Vengeful is reasonable, because its "not normal" characteristics are what allow it to be possible to have a 2-person scum group in a 5-player game. That was the whole thought behind its design.

@Haschel
I'd cut three townies from that... And still bet some money on a town win.
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Post Post #1415 (ISO) » Fri Oct 12, 2007 1:47 am

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No I understand that, and think 5-p Vengeful has a place. But a 7-player game has many more options available to it.
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Post Post #1416 (ISO) » Fri Oct 12, 2007 5:10 am

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7 player could have three scum.
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Post Post #1417 (ISO) » Fri Oct 12, 2007 6:21 am

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7-player Vengeful does have three scum, but I'm a bit discontent that, assuming random moves, there's a 3/7ths chance that the game doesn't get to Day 2. (1/7th chance of GF lynch plus 4/7 * 3/6 chance that a townie is lynched and vigs town.)
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Post Post #1418 (ISO) » Fri Oct 12, 2007 11:05 am

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THIRD TEXAS JUSTICE:


SERIOUSLY I FORGOT TO CHECK THE DAMN OPEN SIGNUP


*SIGH*
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Post Post #1419 (ISO) » Fri Oct 12, 2007 11:43 am

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Shouldn't there be another vanilla game coming up soon? or
nominate: vanilla
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Post Post #1420 (ISO) » Fri Oct 12, 2007 11:59 am

Post by IH »

I want to nominate

Vanilla version two

3 scum
8 townies

Isn't the original 4 scum?
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Post Post #1421 (ISO) » Fri Oct 12, 2007 1:13 pm

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4:8 is nightless vanilla, that might be what you're thinking of. 2:10 vanilla is traditionally used as the 12 player version. But I think 3:14 was open 2 vanilla.

So if I have to specify, I'd like to see the 2:10 come up soon.
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Post Post #1422 (ISO) » Sat Oct 13, 2007 7:50 am

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All the setups in #1372 and #1374 should be normal, at least.
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Post Post #1423 (ISO) » Sat Oct 13, 2007 9:09 am

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Nominate: 2:10 Vanilla


Just for the sake of getting something in the Open queue, fast!
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Post Post #1424 (ISO) » Sat Oct 13, 2007 12:36 pm

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I'll second mafia and werewolves
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