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[Almost50]

@Exp:

Is your keyboard broken?? What's with the "???" ??

On the former event it was suggested that Garmr was bussing you. You exclaimed as to why nit Garmr instead. I made the comment that bussing -by definition- is SCUM pushing for the lynch of their SCUM BUDDY. If someone thinks you're being bussed then they're confident you're scum still. The bussing act is usually done by the less obvious scum on the one who will probably be caught anyway, and that makes you the more obvious scum of the two (assuming Garmr is scum to begin with).

On the second I'm letting you know VT is the one and only "safe" claim for scum at this point. With a JK flipping already you probably can't claim Cop or Tracker (for instance). You don't know if there's a Gunsmith though, and you can't risk claiming a protective lest you get counter claimed. We do know there IS at least one PR alive because we had a Universal Backup flip too. Any "blind" claim of a PR might get you caught, so a VT is your safest option. You can even change that later and say you fake claimed to protect your role.

It thus becomes of no value that you claimed a VT. It doesn't prove or even hint you're town-aligned (unless you can prove it. Now how does one ever prove being a VT??)

[Almost50]

And to elaborate: If we were to mass claim right now.. BOTH SCUM will claim VTs. VTs will -of course- claim VTs, and even PRs will still claim VTs to protect their roles. Result: We have 10 VTs alive with no scum and no PRs. The Mod is just messing with us!!

[texcat]

But actually, my reads remain unchanged ever since a small amount content ago.

Is this it?

I think Garmr is bussing Boonskiies here.

As far as other scum, I would say maybe Maestro / texcat / Almost50. That's really all I can see.

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Hmm. I think I'm gonna do a voting analysis today.

@Expedience wagon: what would expedience scum gain from hard-defending then voting for boon?

I thought I already explained my theory. At first I think Exp thought he could save Boon and he went hard after Sakura. Even after her vengeful claim, he was advocating for her lynch.

Even if you think Boonskiies is scum

(he's not)

, voting Sakura still gets Boonskiies dead if Sakura is town. The converse does not apply.

His primary defense of Boons was that he was a un-cc'd PR, but when Sakura claimed he didn't hesitate to vote her. (Some un-cc'd PRs are town and some aren't?) It began to look like Boon was going down anyway, and that's when Exp started yelling in large letters for the counterclaim. Scum did not want to lose Boon without getting something in return. After ChilledTea counterclaimed, Exp's defense was gone and he was forced to vote Boon.

[Dierfire]

Sorry for the absence, I'm here and catching up.

[Dierfire]

I can see that I'm not going to get Lowell lynched today.

UNVOTE: Lowell
VOTE: Expedience

THIS IS L-1 FOR EXPEDIENCE

[Lowell]

Hesitant wagon voting. noted. Anyway let's end this day.

[Expedience]

?????????

[Expedience]

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VOTE: Lowell

[Garmr]

Do you think lowell is scum exp?? Because I remember this

Nah, I don't really think you're scum.

Also, if Lowell ends up being scum after all this I will be super upset with myself. Because I can actually see what Direfire is saying about the wagon thing,

but Lowell doesn't feel very scummy.

Garmr is definitely scum though.

And not to long ago you said your reads haven't changed so is your vote on lowell a survival thing?

[Expedience]

I was feeling a bit out of it when I made those posts.

Yeah, I do think Lowell is scum. My scumreads are Garmr, Lowell and texcat.

I think I supressed my Lowell scumread so I wouldn't get lynched, and so I wouldn't die of shame if I was wrong. But I already fucked up this game so sorry.

[Garmr]

That sounds so artificial.

[Expedience]

k

also just a reminder, make sure to pretend to think im trolling when i claim town after the hammer

otherwise people wont think you were actually scumreading me

[mhsmith0]

Exp, do you want to give us a more thought out case on Lowell, or garmr, or anyone else? I'm not at "intent to hammer" but I'm not much liking you either.

Will read in more detail sunday, likely will vote (or declare intent if on exp) then.

[Expedience]

hammer me idc

[Garmr]

Why don't you hammer yourself isn't that what scum do.

[mhsmith0]

+1 on garmr. If you're town help the town. If you're scum self hammer and let's move on to the next day.

[Expedience]

lol

[texcat]

+1 on garmr. If you're town help the town. If you're scum self hammer and let's move on to the next day.

Or you could just hammer. Didn't you start this Day voting for Exp? Might as well end it that way too.

[Sakura Hana]

First of all many apologies to everyone.
But it turns out the fever i've been experienced is caused by me getting hit by Chikungunya virus again, just like last year, and from memory that last one had a duration of a month, i know it's also possible for it to go away in a few weeks but it's been noted to last multiple months as well, and as a result i can't promise when i'll be able to come back and i can't focus on mafia related stuff with this going on, so i think the fairest course of action is for me to replace out and come back to play mafia games once im fully recovered.

@Mod: Taking the above in mind please replace me out

[Almost50]

With TWO people replacing out I very much doubt we're getting a lynch.

[mhsmith0]

With TWO people replacing out I very much doubt we're getting a lynch.

I disagree there. Given exp's "screw it" response to being at l-1, I'm becomes a LOT more comfortable with the idea he's wolf #2.

Intent to hammer, exp has 24 hours to defend and give final thoughts.

[Almost50]

FTR: I'm getting NK'd tonight, bc of something I found out.

I very much suspect SMITH could be scum in this game

. Please save this statement for reference in case I do get NK'd. (If not, I will probably prove it.)

[ToastyToast]

I'll hammer if I need to--I don't think Expedience is the right lynch but my read on him isn't strong enough to actively resist it. I will say this though:

No one seemed to want to know why I voted Almost50. It's because everything he says comes off as a poor ass attempt to rally votes without much reasoning. Its all like "but voting Expedience is just the

logical

thing to do!!! No its not. Expedience hard defending Boons when Boon lynch momentum was that strong has no value for scum. All the arguments I've seen just sound like arguments made to fit a scum read that already exists.

Also, how useless is that? If you're getting NK'd tonight and scum knows you know something already, maybe just tell us now? Seems like that would be quite helpful to have known earlier rather than when the day is about to end.

[Almost50]

I just found out. I didn't have that info before.

[heuristically_alone]

Hey everyone. Replacing Maestro. Feel free to call me Alone.