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Post Post #350 (ISO) » Fri Apr 15, 2016 9:20 am

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In post 347, The Banterlords wrote:
now lets
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lol ok

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Post Post #351 (ISO) » Fri Apr 15, 2016 9:24 am

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In post 349, Polar Vortex wrote:

In post 340, The Banterlords wrote:
VOTE: Jeanne11

idk if we already have the vote on or not but she is sucm

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Why?

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Well you see~~~
In post 305, Jeanne11 wrote:I am a PR that is close to DK's claim. Oh, and for emphasis, I said
close to it
not
same as it
they

In post 306, BlackStar wrote:
In post 305, Jeanne11 wrote:I am a PR that is close to DK's claim. Oh, and for emphasis, I said
close to it
not
same as it

Why are you saying this now?

In post 307, A Real Scourge wrote:because we were talking about lynching her?

In post 310, Jeanne11 wrote:Very well, since all you do is throw shade on me yourself, I'll stop you by claiming fully. I am a town watcher.

Under no pressure for a claim.
Decides to put pressure on DK by claiming a "Similar" role but leaves enough room for when (this is where I'm assuming DK is town) dk flips cop that jeanne can say "oh well I said close to it not the same". There was 0 reason to softclaim at all as town right there. I believe the reason they claimed is as scourge pointed out in we talked about lynching her for lurking and then she fully claims 3 posts later as watcher. (That's not even that similar to a cop)
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Post Post #352 (ISO) » Fri Apr 15, 2016 9:27 am

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In post 351, The Banterlords wrote:
In post 349, Polar Vortex wrote:

In post 340, The Banterlords wrote:
VOTE: Jeanne11

idk if we already have the vote on or not but she is sucm

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Why?

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Well you see~~~
In post 305, Jeanne11 wrote:I am a PR that is close to DK's claim. Oh, and for emphasis, I said
close to it
not
same as it
they

In post 306, BlackStar wrote:
In post 305, Jeanne11 wrote:I am a PR that is close to DK's claim. Oh, and for emphasis, I said
close to it
not
same as it

Why are you saying this now?

In post 307, A Real Scourge wrote:because we were talking about lynching her?

In post 310, Jeanne11 wrote:Very well, since all you do is throw shade on me yourself, I'll stop you by claiming fully. I am a town watcher.

Under no pressure for a claim.
Decides to put pressure on DK by claiming a "Similar" role but leaves enough room for when (this is where I'm assuming DK is town) dk flips cop that jeanne can say "oh well I said close to it not the same". There was 0 reason to softclaim at all as town right there. I believe the reason they claimed is as scourge pointed out in we talked about lynching her for lurking and then she fully claims 3 posts later as watcher. (That's not even that similar to a cop)

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Post Post #353 (ISO) » Fri Apr 15, 2016 9:51 am

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In post 349, Polar Vortex wrote:
In post 342, TheDominator37 wrote:Jeanne might be a scum watcher
VOTE: Jeanne

Why?

In post 340, The Banterlords wrote:
VOTE: Jeanne11

idk if we already have the vote on or not but she is sucm

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Why?

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To quote Titus, why=fry
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Post Post #354 (ISO) » Fri Apr 15, 2016 9:52 am

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FoS Polar Vortex
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Post Post #355 (ISO) » Fri Apr 15, 2016 11:09 am

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In post 336, Dragon Knight wrote:
@mod can you also implement a clause that says they can't just prod-dodge either, regardless of whether or not they have a prod? You already have one that says they can't prodge after having a prod, why not make it both?

This is what the spirit of the rule stands for. While trying, it is much harder for me to monitor, though.
Therefore an official law about it may not be present.

However, please refer to the rule: my word is LAW. So if I deem it worthy of a prod, it is.


EDIT:
The Code Of Honor hydra has been semi-prodded. Unofficially.
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Rule # 5h05: players should not attempt to use or manipulate the mod for any purpose.
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Post Post #356 (ISO) » Fri Apr 15, 2016 11:27 am

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polar vortex i don't get why you need much more of an explanation as to why jeanne is scummy? she's done no hunting, her claim was bad, she's been lurking, she only popped up after we started taking an interest in lynching her, blah blah blah.
your treatment of this wagon is really strange.
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Post Post #357 (ISO) » Fri Apr 15, 2016 11:27 am

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UNVOTE:
i think i was still voting banterlords.
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Post Post #358 (ISO) » Fri Apr 15, 2016 12:19 pm

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In post 351, The Banterlords wrote:
Under no pressure for a claim.
Decides to put pressure on DK by claiming a "Similar" role but leaves enough room for when (this is where I'm assuming DK is town) dk flips cop that jeanne can say "oh well I said close to it not the same". There was 0 reason to softclaim at all as town right there. I believe the reason they claimed is as scourge pointed out in we talked about lynching her for lurking and then she fully claims 3 posts later as watcher. (That's not even that similar to a cop)


Why is being under no pressure a scum sign? Where's the motivation in that, what does she win with this claim as scum? Nothing. She's cornering herself with this claim for no reason. I don't see a clear town motivation for the claim either, but it's much easier to believe and makes more sense with the rest of her play so far.

Notice how she didn't counter claim or even use her own role as a reason to push for DK's lynch. If she's not doing it with a DK lynch in mind why would she even need to leave room to defend herself upon a DK town flip. It just doesn't make any sense, we don't even know if DK is telling the truth. Besides, if she is telling the truth her ability could be as useful or even more so than DK's.

I can see her claiming as a defense, to stop further discussion of her lynch, which isn't really alignment telling but makes sense with her previous statement that she'd oppose her lynch vehemently. And as I said, it makes no sense for scum to commit themselves to a claim this early in a role madness game without being in real danger.
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Post Post #359 (ISO) » Fri Apr 15, 2016 12:38 pm

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In post 356, A Real Scourge wrote:polar vortex i don't get why you need much more of an explanation as to why jeanne is scummy? she's done no hunting, her claim was bad, she's been lurking, she only popped up after we started taking an interest in lynching her, blah blah blah.
your treatment of this wagon is really strange.


I'm not asking why people think she's scummy. I'm asking specifically asking Dom why he thinks she might be watcher and why banta are sure she is scum. Because I just don't see any evidence to back up those accusations and votes.

She's done no hunting, neither have more than half of the players in this game, players who didn't claim a PR. she's been lurking, so have more than half the players in this game, players who didn't claim a PR... Get it?

We've collectively decided to give a pass to a scummier player, one who's scummy because of things he has actually done and said, who claimed after being put at L-1, which gave him an actual motive to claim. A player who claimed cop with an implicit twist, which gives him room to wiggle tomorrow. But, ok, everyone is willing to take this risk, and so are we. Now why aren't you willing to take the same risk (I'd even say, a smaller risk) with a player whose biggest faults are basically not playing and only showing up to defend herself and claim unprompted?

How am I the only one who sees the issue here?

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Post Post #360 (ISO) » Fri Apr 15, 2016 12:46 pm

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Because as a member of the town, claiming for no reason on day 1 doesn't help anyone. It makes you an easy target for scum. If Jeanne really has a pr, the why would she put herself at risk so early on before she could even get a result? And it's suspicious that Jeanne only showed up after people started talking about lynching them.
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Post Post #361 (ISO) » Fri Apr 15, 2016 1:03 pm

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In post 360, BlackStar wrote:Because as a member of the town, claiming for no reason on day 1 doesn't help anyone. It makes you an easy target for scum. If Jeanne really has a pr, the why would she put herself at risk so early on before she could even get a result? And it's suspicious that Jeanne only showed up after people started talking about lynching them.


The worst about claiming on day one is that the scum get free information. You're right that claiming makes her a target, she'd be a waste of a NK though, so the only option scum would have to get rid of her would be through lynching her.

I don't think she wanted to put herself at risk, not at lynch risk. I think if there's a reason for her to have claimed was to achieve the opposite; claim early, stop the discussion on her slot and prevent her wagon from taking off. It obviously didn't work out like that.

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Post Post #362 (ISO) » Fri Apr 15, 2016 1:17 pm

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BlackStar is 100% right and Polar is also 100% scum. Trying to defend your scumbuddy who undoubtably has a really useful role...

Lynch with fiyah!
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Post Post #363 (ISO) » Fri Apr 15, 2016 1:26 pm

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Post Post #364 (ISO) » Fri Apr 15, 2016 1:29 pm

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Post Post #365 (ISO) » Fri Apr 15, 2016 2:12 pm

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In post 362, Dragon Knight wrote:BlackStar is 100% right and Polar is also 100% scum. Trying to defend your scumbuddy who undoubtably has a really useful role...

Lynch with fiyah!


How about we lynch Jeanne today and you use your "cop" role thing to invest Polar


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Post Post #366 (ISO) » Fri Apr 15, 2016 2:14 pm

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:facepalm: :facepalm:
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Post Post #367 (ISO) » Fri Apr 15, 2016 2:16 pm

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Ok Polar so you don't want a Jeanne lynch so what do YOU suggest we do today? I want your thought on who we should lynch.


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Post Post #368 (ISO) » Fri Apr 15, 2016 2:36 pm

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In post 367, The Banterlords wrote:


Ok Polar so you don't want a Jeanne lynch so what do YOU suggest we do today? I want your thought on who we should lynch.


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I'm still figuring. This game has stalled, it's always the same people posting. Right now I'm mostly waiting for the rest of the players to show up and post anything so I can get a read on them. Like,

Vote: Dominator.
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Post Post #369 (ISO) » Fri Apr 15, 2016 4:10 pm

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In post 365, The Banterlords wrote:
In post 362, Dragon Knight wrote:BlackStar is 100% right and Polar is also 100% scum. Trying to defend your scumbuddy who undoubtably has a really useful role...

Lynch with fiyah!


How about we lynch Jeanne today and you use your "cop" role thing to invest Polar


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Post Post #370 (ISO) » Fri Apr 15, 2016 4:14 pm

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i feel like i had something to say but i just feel like puking the contents of my stomach out instead so oh well
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Post Post #371 (ISO) » Fri Apr 15, 2016 11:09 pm

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Us as Jeanne partner is the most idiotic thing I've heard in this game. She looks like a liability for any scum team. If we were scum with her, why wouldn't we just buss her ass right now?

Also for people who want to investigate us, we're ascetic.

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Post Post #372 (ISO) » Sat Apr 16, 2016 1:19 am

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In post 371, Polar Vortex wrote:Us as Jeanne partner is the most idiotic thing I've heard in this game. She looks like a liability for any scum team. If we were scum with her, why wouldn't we just buss her ass right now?

Also for people who want to investigate us, we're ascetic.

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Post Post #373 (ISO) » Sat Apr 16, 2016 1:59 am

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OK, I'm caught up.

Jeanne watches DK and that way we get at least one cop result. No point lynching either of them Today.

This should be today's lynch though;

VOTE: FA
Meta this. Meta that. Meta Everything. Meta is not a good scum-hunting tool. PEOPLE CAN MANIPULATE THEIR META. Stop it. Stop. It. Now.
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Post Post #374 (ISO) » Sat Apr 16, 2016 2:20 am

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In post 372, Dragon Knight wrote:
In post 371, Polar Vortex wrote:Us as Jeanne partner is the most idiotic thing I've heard in this game. She looks like a liability for any scum team. If we were scum with her, why wouldn't we just buss her ass right now?

Also for people who want to investigate us, we're ascetic.

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Always claim this stuff way earlier than you did.

they did in their first post.

I can go along with that plan, bbt.
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