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[Almost50]

OMG, I love this game. It's like everybody has their own reads and nobody's willing to compromise. With 8 players voting the largest wagon is composed of 3 players, and this is in D3????

[Dierfire]

To me, that seems to be at least partially a function of players not voting. For example, I think that mhsmith0 might contribute a vote to your preferred wagon on Expedience when he gets back, and ToastyToast seemed to be thinking along those lines as well.

[texcat]

Sorry, I'm still just as happy as can be with my vote on Expedience. But I would also be happy to go back to Lowell.

Sakura, can you explain why you have Expedience and Lowell so high up on your list?

Expedience posting when the whole CC thing came down felt towny (it felt genuine that he didnt expect a counter claim)
I liked Lowell's 1296 even tho i disagree with the conclusion.

It looks to me like he knew Boon was going down and wanted to make sure scum got something out of it by insisting on a counterclaim. Did his questioning/threatening you about your vengeful claim toDay also look towny to you?

[Almost50]

It looks to me like he knew Boon was going down and wanted to make sure scum got something out of it by insisting on a counterclaim. Did his questioning/threatening you about your vengeful claim toDay also look towny to you?

I strongly second this.

[Expedience]

Sorry, I'm still just as happy as can be with my vote on Expedience. But I would also be happy to go back to Lowell.

Sakura, can you explain why you have Expedience and Lowell so high up on your list?

Expedience posting when the whole CC thing came down felt towny (it felt genuine that he didnt expect a counter claim)
I liked Lowell's 1296 even tho i disagree with the conclusion.

It looks to me like he knew Boon was going down and wanted to make sure scum got something out of it by insisting on a counterclaim. Did his questioning/threatening you about your vengeful claim toDay also look towny to you?

I thought Boonskiies was what he claimed to be. I insisted on a counterclaim thinking that none would occur. Scum would've got a lot more out of it if they lynched an uncced PR.

Is there any more as to why you think I'm scum other than that you think I was anti-town?

[Garmr]

Sorry, I'm still just as happy as can be with my vote on Expedience. But I would also be happy to go back to Lowell.

Sakura, can you explain why you have Expedience and Lowell so high up on your list?

Expedience posting when the whole CC thing came down felt towny (it felt genuine that he didnt expect a counter claim)
I liked Lowell's 1296 even tho i disagree with the conclusion.

It looks to me like he knew Boon was going down and wanted to make sure scum got something out of it by insisting on a counterclaim. Did his questioning/threatening you about your vengeful claim toDay also look towny to you?

I thought Boonskiies was what he claimed to be. I insisted on a counterclaim thinking that none would occur. Scum would've got a lot more out of it if they lynched an uncced PR.

Is there any more as to why you think I'm scum other than that you think I was anti-town?

Sounds like a half truth to me, boon skies claimed joat who jailkeeped. The vague jail keep drop was probably supposed to draw out the role with a response, while the joat claim was probably an attempt to keep him safe if we look in retrospect. The way you were pushing and working with boon was probably an attempt to draw out the claim and keep boon alive with day talk it makes this extremely more likely.

[Garmr]

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That's just one possible scenario on how you and boon may be scum buddies. You claiming that makes you town because you didn't think there would be a counterclaim is utterly false. Hell you may be lying about the counter claim.

So you pushing that your actions were anti town when you attempted to justify them seems pretty scummy to me as well, it's like you are confused on what to do.

[Expedience]

My actions weren't anti-town and I never said they were. I would never lynch someone who claimed to have stopped a kill without a counterclaim.

[Expedience]

I think after the vengeful claim he noticed chilled behavior and started to push on him to try and get a wagon onto him. In response to almost 50s counter claim he tries to doubt on it subtly (the bolded bit) cast doubt on it while also at the same time lecturing chilled. It's kinda feels like scum trying to lecture town.

Why did you counter the claim, then?

In your initial response to Boon's claim that I quoted above, and in several of your responses recently,

you seem to be saying that your plan was not to counter the claim because you thought that your role was more valuable concealed. Initially, your response was even to allow Boon to survive the day (in favor of lynching Garmr).

What has changed since then that you absolutely needed to convince Expedience and mhsmith0 that Boon is Mafia now, today?

I think this makes Dierfire town, anyway, because there was no way he would push chilledtea after the claim if he knew that Boonskiies was scum. The momentum was strongly against Boonskiies. It looks to me like town who believed what he was saying.

[Garmr]

My actions weren't anti-town and I never said they were. I would never lynch someone who claimed to have stopped a kill without a counterclaim.

Is there any more as to why you think I'm scum other than that you think I was anti-town?

You were trying to push that a scum point on you was just being perceived as anti-town.

[Garmr]

I think after the vengeful claim he noticed chilled behavior and started to push on him to try and get a wagon onto him. In response to almost 50s counter claim he tries to doubt on it subtly (the bolded bit) cast doubt on it while also at the same time lecturing chilled. It's kinda feels like scum trying to lecture town.

Why did you counter the claim, then?

In your initial response to Boon's claim that I quoted above, and in several of your responses recently,

you seem to be saying that your plan was not to counter the claim because you thought that your role was more valuable concealed. Initially, your response was even to allow Boon to survive the day (in favor of lynching Garmr).

What has changed since then that you absolutely needed to convince Expedience and mhsmith0 that Boon is Mafia now, today?

I think this makes Dierfire town, anyway, because there was no way he would push chilledtea after the claim if he knew that Boonskiies was scum. The momentum was strongly against Boonskiies. It looks to me like town who believed what he was saying.

I disagree he may of had hope that he can save his scum buddy or stall it. You are ignoring the inconsistencies in his play and trying to find alternative reasons to why he is town.

[Expedience]

My actions weren't anti-town and I never said they were. I would never lynch someone who claimed to have stopped a kill without a counterclaim.

Is there any more as to why you think I'm scum other than that you think I was anti-town?

You were trying to push that a scum point on you was just being perceived as anti-town.

Yes?

[Expedience]

I think after the vengeful claim he noticed chilled behavior and started to push on him to try and get a wagon onto him. In response to almost 50s counter claim he tries to doubt on it subtly (the bolded bit) cast doubt on it while also at the same time lecturing chilled. It's kinda feels like scum trying to lecture town.

Why did you counter the claim, then?

In your initial response to Boon's claim that I quoted above, and in several of your responses recently,

you seem to be saying that your plan was not to counter the claim because you thought that your role was more valuable concealed. Initially, your response was even to allow Boon to survive the day (in favor of lynching Garmr).

What has changed since then that you absolutely needed to convince Expedience and mhsmith0 that Boon is Mafia now, today?

I think this makes Dierfire town, anyway, because there was no way he would push chilledtea after the claim if he knew that Boonskiies was scum. The momentum was strongly against Boonskiies. It looks to me like town who believed what he was saying.

I disagree he may of had hope that he can save his scum buddy or stall it. You are ignoring the inconsistencies in his play and trying to find alternative reasons to why he is town.

Really doubt he was trying to do that.

Day 2 End

Boonskiies (6):

ToastyToast, Garmr, texcat, Almost50, Sakura Hana, chilledtea, Expedience

LYNCH!!

Sakura Hana (2):

Boonskiies, Lowell

chilledtea (1):

Dierfire

Maestro (0):

Almost50 (0):

Lowell (0):

mhsmith0 (0):

texcat (0):

Garmr (0):

Dierfire (0):

ToastyToast (0):

Expedience (0):

Not Voting (2):

Maestro, mhsmith0

[Garmr]

My actions weren't anti-town and I never said they were. I would never lynch someone who claimed to have stopped a kill without a counterclaim.

Is there any more as to why you think I'm scum other than that you think I was anti-town?

You were trying to push that a scum point on you was just being perceived as anti-town.

Yes?

But you are obviously being scum read for it so your basically trying to turn a scum point into something else with out defending against it.

[Sakura Hana]

And now this whole exchange between expedience and garmr is making me rethink again =/

[Garmr]

The answer is simple sakura lynch expedience.

[Expedience]

My actions weren't anti-town and I never said they were. I would never lynch someone who claimed to have stopped a kill without a counterclaim.

Is there any more as to why you think I'm scum other than that you think I was anti-town?

You were trying to push that a scum point on you was just being perceived as anti-town.

Yes?

But you are obviously being scum read for it so your basically trying to turn a scum point into something else with out defending against it.

What I mean is that texcat is scumreading me for doing something anti-town, that's what I mean when I say that texcat is scumreading me for doing something anti-town, by which I mean that texcat is scumreading me for doing something anti-town.

[Garmr]

My actions weren't anti-town and I never said they were. I would never lynch someone who claimed to have stopped a kill without a counterclaim.

Is there any more as to why you think I'm scum other than that you think I was anti-town?

You were trying to push that a scum point on you was just being perceived as anti-town.

Yes?

But you are obviously being scum read for it so your basically trying to turn a scum point into something else with out defending against it.

What I mean is that texcat is scumreading me for doing something anti-town, that's what I mean when I say that texcat is scumreading me for doing something anti-town, by which I mean that texcat is scumreading me for doing something anti-town.

God my head hurts. The point is texcat and I included don't think it's antitown and it's a scumtell but you keep trying to push that it's antitown instead of debunking it. Your whole antitown thing is just scum rhetoric to try and survive.

[Lowell]

Still haven't caught up, sorry. A skim gives me townvibes on texcat and Almost 50 recently, and I still believe sakura is town based on the battle with boon yesterday.

VOTE: expedience

This is naked vote someone I previously called town. I'm just going to do this and try to weather the storm, because this day is nowhere. My reasoning here, such as it is, isn't so much the case on exp itself (which is fine, but not overwhelming), but more based on who is on the wagon and exp's reaction to it.

[Dierfire]

@Expedience

It seems likely that you will be lynched today. Could we get an updated list of reads?

[Maestro]

Catching up. No real idea who to vote right now.

[Almost50]

Expedience would be a good start.

[Expedience]

Still haven't caught up, sorry. A skim gives me townvibes on texcat and Almost 50 recently, and I still believe sakura is town based on the battle with boon yesterday.

VOTE: expedience

This is naked vote someone I previously called town. I'm just going to do this and try to weather the storm, because this day is nowhere. My reasoning here, such as it is, isn't so much the case on exp itself (which is fine, but not overwhelming), but more based on who is on the wagon and exp's reaction to it.

So you think I'm scum?

[Expedience]

@Expedience

It seems likely that you will be lynched today. Could we get an updated list of reads?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reed_%28plant%29

[Expedience]

But actually, my reads remain unchanged ever since a small amount content ago.