New York 194: Guns N' Roses Mafia! (Day 8)

[SnarkySnowman]

pisskop seemed townie to me, maybe that was the scum's kill

And we're speculating instead of scumhunting because this helps us how?

VOTE: GuyFawkes

I can get down with this. Dude's wearing a mask. Seriously; scummy.

Wait are we in the rvs again??

[Ozgin]

Yeah SnarkySnowman, didn't you get the memo? You can't make reads or scumhunt until day 5, it's all RVS until then.

[Ozgin]

I don't think GuyFawkes' hammer was scum; I was about to hammer anyways, Reubus gave 0 shits about this game, the day was going nowhere, and we were low on time. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[Axl_Rose]

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With 21 Alive, it's 11 to Lynch!

Mod Notes:

"Street of Dreams"

• (0)
  Boonskiies
  —
  (0)
  Ozgin
  —
  
  (1)
  Aristophanes
  — Slandaar
  (0)
  Killthestory
  —
  (0)
  Performer
  —
  (0)
  Drixx
  —
  (0)
  Ilikebugs
  —
  
  (1)
  Firebringer
  — Egg
  
  (2)
  GuyFawkes
  — Firebringer, Drixx,
  (0)
  Something_Smart
  —
  (0)
  Egg
  —
  (0)
  Slandaar
  —
  (0)
  jam
  —
  (0)
  iraonavp
  —
  (0)
  DrippingGoofball
  —
  (0)
  KickAssAndGiggle
  —
  
  (1)
  Fraggernaut
  — Something_Smart
  (0)
  SnarkySnowman
  —
  
  (13)
  [Not Voting]
  —
  Killthestory, KickAssAndGiggle, DrippingGoofball, jam, Fraggernaut, Ilikebugs, GuyFawkes, Performer, Ozgin, SnarkySnowman, Kop, Boonskiies, iraonavp

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[Ozgin]

@Slandaar - Give me one sentence why I should vote Aristophanes, or was it just post-RVS-post-Day1-Post-Night1-RVS? Because, you know, that's apparently a thing.

[KickAssAndGiggle]

Before placing a vote, i want to reread my notes on this game to make sure of who to best place my vote on. I see slandaar empty voted Aris. Who did he replace again?

Aris replaced Kop.

Is that based solely on the hammer, or is there more to it? He's another lurk-sack for sure, but so was Reubus.

Reubus was fairly active, given how normal active he is, which is very low.
I think that hammer was only provided because everyone else was screaming for it, so thought nobody would shot them down for doing it after the flip.

These are both fair points but they don't explain your vote?

[Fraggernaut]

VOTE: Iraonvp

Back to this now .

I don't think GuyFawkes hammer was scum.

[Egg]

For what it's worth, if Guyfawkes is scummy it's not because of the hammer in my opinion. I'd like him vig'd but based on last night's kills, I'd be surprised if we had a vig.

Before placing a vote, i want to reread my notes on this game to make sure of who to best place my vote on. I see slandaar empty voted Aris. Who did he replace again?

Kop

[Egg]

Oh shit didn't read past the vote count. Kickass and Frag made my post useless. Oh well I'm here lol

[Egg]

So I was looking at this
(11) Reubus Swagrid — Drixx, Killthestory, KickAssAndGiggle, DrippingGoofball, jam, Egg, Something_Smart, SirCakez, Fraggernaut, Ilikebugs, GuyFawkes

I bet there are 1-2 scum in the 4th through 9th votes. One of those is dead town and one is myself. For me, that leaves DGB, Jam, SomethingSmart, and Frag. If Firebringer doesn't happen (and it should. we let Creature get away and I don't get why), I might be willing to compromise on one of them for that reason alone. This will be a little more important as we start getting more flips from that wagon though.

[GuyFawkes]

VOTE: fraggernaut

he was talking out both ends towards the end of Day 1

[jam]

VOTE: Firebringer

Mostly Creature, and it doesn't help that Firebringer has seemed to attempt to draw attention away from himself by posting a lot of fluff.

[jam]

Also, could anyone point me to some specific scummy posts/statements by Fragger?

[GuyFawkes]

[float=][/float]

Still think iraonvp is the better lynch today but we can't risk a no lynch.

VOTE: Reubus Swagrid

We can vig him. I didn't like his gratuitous power role hint. He's scum, too.

You would be okay vigging a PR? Something seems off about this.

He meant to vig me from what I take from that , you're still scum iraonvp & probably should buss your partner for the town credit .

Reread what Dripping said, and I get what they mean now. I would definitely be interested to see a vig shot on Iraonvp.

Would be a great shot.

Also no I never claimed PR. Dropping said they got a PR feel from your post, & I thought they were saying they thought you was a PR.

Iraonvp I misread the post. I thought he was calling you a PR then in the same instance saying the vigi should have a shot on you. He wasn't saying that. There should be a vigi shot on you. Simple .

frag is inconsistent with his "misreading" of 801 particulary between 810 and 849

[Egg]

VOTE: Firebringer

Mostly Creature, and it doesn't help that Firebringer has seemed to attempt to draw attention away from himself by posting a lot of fluff.

I like this vote.

[Fraggernaut]

@GuyFawkes

It was a misread of what they originally said. It happens. It's interesting though that you've came out now to try to push this, when you did practically nothing the first day outside of the hammer. Still reading you town, but it seems mighty opportunistic.

[Egg]

Frag, what do you think of the people on the Rubeus wagon?

[Fraggernaut]

Frag, what do you think of the people on the Rubeus wagon?

The people I liked on the wagon was Drixx, KAAG, Dripping, & yourself Egg.

I also was reading Killthestory town towards the end. SirCakez I was alright but not confident on.

Overall there was enough of my town reads on the wagon, so It felt like a very town sided wagon.

[Something_Smart]

Regarding the Reubus wagon: When I joined the wagon it had all my solid townreads on it. The only player on it before me that has a decent likelihood of being scum is Drixx.
I think it was a very much town led wagon, and probably most scum on it jumped on later. There's very likely at least one scum in <Fraggernaut, Ilikebugs, GuyFawkes> (leaning toward Fragger atm).
Iraonavp's play reminded me very much of scum backed into a corner, but I think the way his wagon developed as a counterwagon to the town-led Reubus wagon, combined with his insistence with Reubus was town, combined with his softclaim makes me doubt that he is scum.

[Performer]

[float=][/float]

Still think iraonvp is the better lynch today but we can't risk a no lynch.

VOTE: Reubus Swagrid

We can vig him. I didn't like his gratuitous power role hint. He's scum, too.

You would be okay vigging a PR? Something seems off about this.

He meant to vig me from what I take from that , you're still scum iraonvp & probably should buss your partner for the town credit .

Reread what Dripping said, and I get what they mean now. I would definitely be interested to see a vig shot on Iraonvp.

Would be a great shot.

Also no I never claimed PR. Dropping said they got a PR feel from your post, & I thought they were saying they thought you was a PR.

Iraonvp I misread the post. I thought he was calling you a PR then in the same instance saying the vigi should have a shot on you. He wasn't saying that. There should be a vigi shot on you. Simple .

frag is inconsistent with his "misreading" of 801 particulary between 810 and 849

Still don't see how he was misreading. It looked like Frag just interacting with Drip & ira about some sort of PR talk , instead of Frag misrepresenting.

[Egg]

Frag, what do you think of the people on the Rubeus wagon?

The people I liked on the wagon was Drixx, KAAG, Dripping, & yourself Egg.

I also was reading Killthestory town towards the end. SirCakez I was alright but not confident on.

Overall there was enough of my town reads on the wagon, so It felt like a very town sided wagon.

I was asking more what you think of it now that Rubeus has flipped town. Do you think there is scum there? If so, how many and who? Have any of your reads changed due to the flip?

SomethingSmart, do you honestly believe that it took 7 townies jumping on one townie before scum decided to get in on that? I mean, if you have Drixx as a strong scum read, I get where you are coming from but you don't seem to. At least not to the level you'd have to for that to make sense.

[Firebringer]

VOTE: Firebringer

Mostly Creature, and it doesn't help that Firebringer has seemed to attempt to draw attention away from himself by posting a lot of fluff.

I like this vote.

I don't, maybe it has something to do with it being on me.

[Performer]

Just caught up with my notes at home - I had Snark, Fire, Boon, Drix as scumreads - this hasn't changed. The Guy slot has recently become a scumread because of that hammer.

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Guy – his 11-post ISO for d1 by Apr 9, along with talk of “not overcomplicating” things with explanations and asking someone if he’s an alt…but other than that, I’m not getting a strong scum feel from his ISO.

However, his desire for quick hammer while SC and I said that wouldn’t be a bright idea, made me move him to scumread.
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I'm alright with a wagon on any of the above, but adding my vote to an already existing one would be more progressive than starting a new wagon at this point.

VOTE: Fire

Fire why are you scum so much, in games that you and I are in? Lol

[Firebringer]

Fire why are you scum so much, in games that you and I are in? Lol

This is exactly what you said in that game Pisskop took over, and guess what?
Way to not learn from past experiences bro.

[Performer]

@Fire hmm actually you make a good point...in that game, you turned up JOAT iirc.
What are your scumreads? Has anything changed from d1?

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I think we all know who needs protection tonight (whether it's due to bodyguard or doctor or jailkeep or any other protection). And I don't mean me or my scumreads.

Speaking of that, pk flipped JOAT and 1 of his abilities is Jailkeeper. That is making me highly paranoid because that means there could be a Strongman in the scum team.