Mafia 70: Traditional - Game over!

[Mastermind of Sin]

sorry for not contributing much, personal life has interfered. I work two jobs and quit one of them for stress reasons. Will try to take a heavy look at the thread before the weekend

Right. So now you work one job...

GET TO WORK D:<

I lol'd

[Niv]

[quote="KaleiÐoscøpe"]Niv, apparantly you are the one not keeping up. I've stated I did a reread and celtic came up as my top suspect. Whether or not that guy was replaced or not, the suspicions stays.[/quote]

nonLurker ≠ keeping up. I am voting you B/c you Are the most "visable lurker". as far as i am concerned, there is absol no concrete proof that you are scum or town, however, the way you post, strikes me as someone trying to not be seen, so..... take it as you may.

[quote="Sir Tornado"][quote="Aimee"]
SirT, by voting for yourself, what were you trying to achieve? [/quote]

I was trying to show White that voting yourself is not always bad play, but seeing how dense he is, I have given up.[/quote]

Why the hell are we still talking bout this? IDK that this is a give up ooist, Why do you insist on still talijkg bout this.

Why did you keep talkin bout this so long?

[Sir Tornado]

Why the hell are we still talking bout this? IDK that this is a give up ooist, Why do you insist on still talijkg bout this.

Why did you keep talkin bout this so long?

You mean to say I should just ignore Aimee's question?

[Aimee]

[quote="KaleiÐoscøpe"]Mainly his go with the flow posts. Gut says scum[/quote]

Note to self: check this.

[quote="Sir T"]I was trying to show White that voting yourself is not always bad play, but seeing how dense he is, I have given up. [/quote]

Can you explain how trying to prove this is actually helping the town? It seems like far more of a distraction that has no real merit.

[Patrick]

Votecount

Lemming1607 (1) -- Setael
Mastermind of Sin (1) -- Flare
Yamahako (4) -- White, Zeppo, booboodafool, Lemming1607
White (4) -- JDodge, Toaster Strudel, Ether, ZONEACE
booboodafool (3) -- The Fonz, Simenon, KaleiÐoscøpe
Sir Tornado (1) -- Sir Tornado
The Venerable Zorg (3) -- Beastly, Mastermind of Sin, Erg0
Simenon (1) -- Yamahako
KaleiÐoscøpe (1) -- Niv

Not Voting: Flameaxe, The Venerable Zorg, Aimee
22 alive, 12 to lynch.

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

Niv, that is not lurking. That is trying to fly under the radar.

[Sir Tornado]

Can you explain how trying to prove this is actually helping the town? It seems like far more of a distraction that has no real merit.

That line of questioning was supposed to develop into something more later on.

[White]

Sir T, can you illustrate how voting for yourself is good town play? Can explain what it develops into later on that is beneficial to the town?

[Sir Tornado]

I am not saying it is necessarily "good" town play. I am saying it is not always "bad" play. My self vote, for example was meant to question you regarding your assertion regarding self voting, which cannot be termed as "bad".

Can explain what it develops into later on that is beneficial to the town?

That would have been based on the reactions given by you. You failed to answer the question altogether.

[Ether]

Bah. I've clearly missed something. Why are Tornado and White spamming about self-votes? (Why is Tornado

still

self-voting, anyway?)

I have half a post on a different computer. It continues my spats with Setael and White and explains to Aimee that I got off of Flare because he's lurking and no one else is on him, so the alternative would be to shout the same things again and again. I'll get back to you once I'm home.

[White]

I have answered your questions several times and consistently quoted myself with my answers presented to you. Please read my posts.

If it's not good play, but it's not bad play, how is it neutral play? Why would you want to play neutrally? What benefit comes to the town by not scum hunting? What benefits does the town receive by playing neutrally?

[Sir Tornado]

Bah. I've clearly missed something. Why are Tornado and White spamming about self-votes? (Why is Tornado

still

self-voting, anyway?)

I have half a post on a different computer. It continues my spats with Setael and White and explains to Aimee that I got off of Flare because he's lurking and no one else is on him, so the alternative would be to shout the same things again and again. I'll get back to you once I'm home.

Er... yes.

Unvote

[Sir Tornado]

I have answered your questions several times and consistently quoted myself with my answers presented to you. Please read my posts.

If it's not good play, but it's not bad play, how is it neutral play? Why would you want to play neutrally? What benefit comes to the town by not scum hunting? What benefits does the town receive by playing neutrally?

I read you posts perfectly well and concluded that you do not seem to have the capacity to comprehend and answer that question, instead relying on the generic answer, (whilst I asked a question regarding a specific case) which is why I gave that line of questioning a rest.

[Mastermind of Sin]

Why is TVZ getting away with being scum? We should vote him more, plz.

[Flare]

Bah, sorry guys I'll catch up sometime soon

[Erg0]

Why is TVZ getting away with being scum? We should vote him more, plz.

What he said. Zorg is wagonny, over-cautious and inconsistent.

[Mastermind of Sin]

Why is TVZ getting away with being scum? We should vote him more, plz.

What he said. Zorg is wagonny, over-cautious and inconsistent.

QFT! These guys are good.

[Niv]

[quote="Sir Tornado"]You mean to say I should just ignore Aimee's question?[/quote]

No, i mean to say that this whole thing should taken lees than wehat it did.

[quote="KaleiÐoscøpe"]Niv, that is not lurking. That is trying to fly under the radar.[/quote]

And at this moment, i personally do not condone either. in fact, i generally see them as the same sort of behivior. this is wy you are currently reciving my vote

[quote="White"]Sir T, can you illustrate how voting for yourself is good town play? Can explain what it develops into later on that is beneficial to the town?[/quote]

I think your looking up, then i read this post, and it all dies again.

[quote="White"]I have answered your questions several times and consistently quoted myself with my answers presented to you. Please read my posts.

If it's not good play, but it's not bad play, how is it neutral play? Why would you want to play neutrally? What benefit comes to the town by not scum hunting? What benefits does the town receive by playing neutrally?[/quote]

It's useless play, much like your consistyant instiing on the talking about this move.

[quote="Mastermind of Sin"][quote="Erg0"][quote="Mastermind of Sin"]Why is TVZ getting away with being scum? We should vote him more, plz.[/quote]

What he said. Zorg is wagonny, over-cautious and inconsistent.[/quote]

QFT! These guys are good.[/quote]

Did you Just QFT yourself.

So after these few posts, i belive i was didlded to vote K right Now. its more i want him dead due to his lacok of info. so fot that, and also, i don't right now see anyhtin on K moving, so i think i'll move mty vote back to

UnVote K, Vote White

[Mastermind of Sin]

No, I QFT'd Erg0. Erg0 and that other guy really know what they're talking about.

[Erg0]

I agree, MoS and that other guy are totally on top of things.

[Mastermind of Sin]

I agree, MoS and that other guy are totally on top of things.

QFT

[Beastly]

I agree, MoS and that other guy are totally on top of things.

QFT

QFT

Zorg I'll respond to your previous question asap.

[Yamahako]

Can you explain how trying to prove this is actually helping the town? It seems like far more of a distraction that has no real merit.

QFT,

Unvote, Vote Sir T

[Beastly]

Your question

What are your thoughts on his post following your original analysis of me?

Your post

I'd say that self-voting is almost always a negative strategy (unless in the random-voting stage). If you are town, you do not want to get lynched, because a lynch on you is a lynch that could be on scum.
-snip-
Yamahako exhibited the giving up scumtell which could be indicative of his alignment. I'd rather see a Yama-lynch than a White-Lynch, but i'm sure there're better lynches than either out there. A lurker for example.

MoS's reaction to your post.

Unvote, Vote: The Venerable Zorg

I think we need to apply some pressure here. The snippet Yamahako quoted in his last post has me thinking that Zorg is just looking for every possible place to apply pressure and fling about suspicion. He's been doing this pretty much all game.

Put simply I agree with it. The last line looks to me like your looking to apply pressure and fling votes anywhere you can - "A lurker for example". "I'm sure there're better lynches out there" - also implies to me that you know Yama and White will come up as mislynches.

I would like MoS to elaborate on his "pretty much all game" argument mind.

[Aimee]

I agree with MoS and erg0 (can I be the other girl?) I shall post more later.