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Post Post #150 (ISO) » Tue Oct 09, 2007 3:35 pm

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Kanaga, Kakeng, and Flameaxe all look bad right now - Kanaga for deflection, Kakeng and Flameaxe for pushing a mass claim (Kanaga more so than Flameaxe).
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Post Post #151 (ISO) » Tue Oct 09, 2007 3:40 pm

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I didn't push anything. I offered it as a suggestion that, as I stated IN THE ACTUAL POST:
QuotethOfMyself wrote:massclaiming MIGHT be an option
If you haven't noticed....I like to capitalize things for EMPHASIS.
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Post Post #152 (ISO) » Tue Oct 09, 2007 3:41 pm

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Lazy wrote:
Flameaxe wrote:I WANT to be lynched for saying ONE suggestion...in which I clearly stated was only that.

I'm pro-massclaiming (Pie's Soldiers! Huzzah!) for all open setups. I think if used correctly it can be very pro-town, and help out very nicely.

Over-react more please.
I don't think that's overreacting, I feel the same way.

A mass roleclaim is one of the lamest things to do at this point. It isn't how mafia should be played.
Massclaiming can be very helpful if people aren't fucking retarded and do it right. That is TOTALLY not lame. And to correct you: it isn't how you THINK mafia should be played.
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Post Post #153 (ISO) » Tue Oct 09, 2007 3:57 pm

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Flameaxe wrote:
Lazy wrote:
Flameaxe wrote:I WANT to be lynched for saying ONE suggestion...in which I clearly stated was only that.

I'm pro-massclaiming (Pie's Soldiers! Huzzah!) for all open setups. I think if used correctly it can be very pro-town, and help out very nicely.

Over-react more please.
I don't think that's overreacting, I feel the same way.

A mass roleclaim is one of the lamest things to do at this point. It isn't how mafia should be played.
Massclaiming can be very helpful if people aren't fucking retarded and do it right. That is TOTALLY not lame. And to correct you: it isn't how you THINK mafia should be played.
Really, cause the stats say otherwise. Might tell everyone why you think that we're wrong?
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Post Post #154 (ISO) » Tue Oct 09, 2007 3:59 pm

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And where might these stats be? My point was that he is attacking me because my opinions of play vary from his. If you had a brain, you MIGHT be able to see that.
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Post Post #155 (ISO) » Tue Oct 09, 2007 4:01 pm

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Flameaxe wrote:And where might these stats be? My point was that he is attacking me because my opinions of play vary from his. If you had a brain, you MIGHT be able to see that.
Your extreme aggression in response to pressure is not only noteworthy, but voteworthy.

Unvote, Vote: Flameaxe
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Post Post #156 (ISO) » Tue Oct 09, 2007 4:03 pm

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My extreme aggression has nothing to do with pressure whatsoever. It's how I am. I'm aggressive, I don't like being nice to people that I feel don't deserve it. Also, what pressure are you talking about? Someone giving me shit about an idea doesn't count as pressure to me.

Get a better case, scum.
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Post Post #157 (ISO) » Tue Oct 09, 2007 4:13 pm

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i'm pretty sure playstyle differences =/=scummy.

trying to lynch someone because of playstyle differences=scummy.
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Post Post #158 (ISO) » Tue Oct 09, 2007 4:19 pm

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Flameaxe wrote:And where might these stats be? My point was that he is attacking me because my opinions of play vary from his. If you had a brain, you MIGHT be able to see that.
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Post Post #159 (ISO) » Tue Oct 09, 2007 4:21 pm

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/Doesn't trust his 'best odds' at all. But whatever.
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Post Post #160 (ISO) » Tue Oct 09, 2007 4:39 pm

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Flameaxe wrote:/Doesn't trust his 'best odds' at all. But whatever.
I did it on a fucking calculator :lol:

What the heck, doesn't trust my "best odds".

If it was:
Flameaxe wrote:/Doesn't trust his "Math Skills" at all. But whatever.
Then that would be totally cool.

But that was just stupid.

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Post Post #161 (ISO) » Tue Oct 09, 2007 4:48 pm

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Well fuck man. How the hell am I supposed to trust it WHEN YOU DON'T EVEN SHOW HOW THE FUCK YOU GOT THERE? RE-TAKE THE SECOND GRADE MORON.

Your post read:
"Blah blah blah, we shouldn't massclaim.

Here, have a pretty number with a percent to go with it so it seems like it has meaning."

Plain and simple.
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Post Post #162 (ISO) » Tue Oct 09, 2007 4:51 pm

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Flameaxe wrote:Well fuck man. How the hell am I supposed to trust it WHEN YOU DON'T EVEN SHOW HOW THE FUCK YOU GOT THERE? RE-TAKE THE SECOND GRADE MORON.

Your post read:
"Blah blah blah, we shouldn't massclaim.

Here, have a pretty number with a percent to go with it so it seems like it has meaning."

Plain and simple.
What school did you go to that taught stats in 2nd grade math!?
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Post Post #163 (ISO) » Tue Oct 09, 2007 4:52 pm

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Post Post #164 (ISO) » Tue Oct 09, 2007 6:18 pm

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Will you two stop quarreling like babies.
What I think Flameaxe meant was that you did not give any calculaions and just expected us to believe your stats.
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Post Post #165 (ISO) » Tue Oct 09, 2007 8:28 pm

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I deny this Flameaxe wagon, just thought I'd make the comment.

This is not scum behaviour, he did not push for a massclaim, he stated the option.
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Post Post #166 (ISO) » Tue Oct 09, 2007 11:47 pm

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Flameaxe wrote:Well fuck man. How the hell am I supposed to trust it WHEN YOU DON'T EVEN SHOW HOW THE FUCK YOU GOT THERE? RE-TAKE THE SECOND GRADE MORON.

Your post read:
"Blah blah blah, we shouldn't massclaim.

Here, have a pretty number with a percent to go with it so it seems like it has meaning."

Plain and simple.
So you're going to start yelling, instead of checking it for yourself? I really really erg don't care about my little statistic thing man, I put that in there only to illustrate the bad idea of mass-claiming.

If statistics are really so super really important, you can totally assemble some, g. Maybe you're second grade skills are superior to mine.
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Post Post #167 (ISO) » Wed Oct 10, 2007 3:37 am

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foolinc wrote:
Flameaxe wrote:
Lazy wrote:
Flameaxe wrote:I WANT to be lynched for saying ONE suggestion...in which I clearly stated was only that.

I'm pro-massclaiming (Pie's Soldiers! Huzzah!) for all open setups. I think if used correctly it can be very pro-town, and help out very nicely.

Over-react more please.
I don't think that's overreacting, I feel the same way.

A mass roleclaim is one of the lamest things to do at this point. It isn't how mafia should be played.
Massclaiming can be very helpful if people aren't fucking retarded and do it right. That is TOTALLY not lame. And to correct you: it isn't how you THINK mafia should be played.
Really, cause the stats say otherwise. Might tell everyone why you think that we're wrong?
It's obviously important to others.

Also:
Stark wrote:I put that in there only to illustrate the bad idea of mass-claiming.
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Post Post #168 (ISO) » Wed Oct 10, 2007 4:42 am

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Vote Count
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Kanaga - 4 (curiouskarmadog, foolinc, Oman, Flameaxe)
Lazy - 2 (xyzzy, Masked Jedi)
bubka - 2 (DragonsofSummer, Lowell)
Flameaxe - 2 (Tarhalindur, stark)
Kakeng - 1 (Lazy)
Sir Tornado - 1 (UltimaAvalon)
pickemgenius - 1 (Sir Tornado)
UltimaAvalon - 1 (SeraphicMirth)

Not voting (7): bubka, BrianMcQueso, pickemgenius, death_omen, Kanaga, Kakeng, rite

11 to lynch.
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Post Post #169 (ISO) » Wed Oct 10, 2007 6:45 am

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@Stark: Your "stats" are not "stats", but "odds". "Odds" ARE NOT "statistics". "Statistics" are not derived by how likely we are to kill based on numbers, but how likely we are to kill scum based on past games. If you want to base an argument for/against massclaiming based on numbers, use "Statistics", not "Odds". Also, we can't check your work if you don't show your work. We did learn that in 2nd grade. We learned odds too. We might've learned statistics too....can't remember. that mighta been 3rd grade, when they started teaching the TAAS curiculum

@Flameaxe: Why are you so.....asshat-y?
AlyG: If he's not a joke account then what is he? He starts bandwagons on himself and insults other people.
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Post Post #170 (ISO) » Wed Oct 10, 2007 9:20 am

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note to all my games:

going to be a light poster for the next 3-4 days (best man in a wedding) should be back and posting regularly by Sunday/Monday.
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Post Post #171 (ISO) » Wed Oct 10, 2007 10:18 am

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Flameaxe wrote:The "Obv. better than your school" School.
Hey, flameaxe, baby, spell probability.
if you're clever enough, you'll copy it carefully from the question


meanwhile, stark, it'll indeed be interesting to go through your odds calculations :wink:
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Post Post #172 (ISO) » Wed Oct 10, 2007 10:24 am

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UltimaAvalon wrote:@Stark: Your "stats" are not "stats", but "odds". "Odds" ARE NOT "statistics". "Statistics" are not derived by how likely we are to kill based on numbers, but how likely we are to kill scum based on past games. If you want to base an argument for/against massclaiming based on numbers, use "Statistics", not "Odds". Also, we can't check your work if you don't show your work. We did learn that in 2nd grade. We learned odds too. We might've learned statistics too....can't remember. that mighta been 3rd grade, when they started teaching the TAAS curiculum

@Flameaxe: Why are you so.....asshat-y?
I just noticed this. What exactly do you thnk statistics is, kid? Have you heard of something called estimation? :P
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Post Post #173 (ISO) » Wed Oct 10, 2007 11:46 am

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Lol comrades, increasingly lame. I ain't a math person. My badasaurus.

Here is my math, if you all really super insist like :P

21 players

5 mafia

In the event of a mass-claim, I would guess that we get 16 townie claims, assuming our town powerroles aren't going to claim townie, and assuming our scum is not going to fake-claim a power-role.

5/16 chance of hitting a scum with lynch, which is a 31% chance.

In the best case scenario, we lynch 5 scum in succession. The chance of this happening is 6.25%.

This will take 5 days.

Mafia will have killed all power-roles in 4 days.


Does that look ok lol?
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Post Post #174 (ISO) » Wed Oct 10, 2007 11:46 am

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who the fuck cares about math.

this ain't fucking math class.

fuck.
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