Open 634: Sharing is Caring (Game Over)

[BlacleWorks]

Thats right SirCakez embrace that shit like a real man!

[SirCakez]

Yeah man!

[wgeurts]

Explaining yourself isn't vital to the game Wgeurts. So tired of your preachy BS, this is not a newb game and you aint no IC. Just know that the way you are playing tells me two things immediately. You are likely scum and very excited to have a scumdoctor/Are the scumdoctor. You are town and you have a PR. If I'm wrong on both of these great job I hope mafia kills you tonight and cop/jk are saved by your badness. If I'm right about any of these you need to rethink your strategies. Your not in control of this town your just digging more tunnels and no one is going to listen to your bullshit... sigh your the worst just stop posting for like 24 hours or something you need a break...

Kuroi, your reaction is shit tier. Your only capable of pointing out the obvious and you can't even point it out without being subjective. You are actually playing worse than Wgeurts. Atleast Wgeurts can keep his emotions in check. Atleast Anenien has the balls to recognize terribad plays. Nope you just continue to wallow in your shit pit.

I am absolutely disgusted so far. I am very happy that I am the Vig Framer on me tonight... also don't kill me

Im gonna shoot a cow in the back

Explaining your actions is vital to the game and as such I'm going to make an entire post dedicated to why.

Town don't have information scum do, we are uninformed, the only things we can work with is the information others claim. Now if everybody just went around not explaining anything then it would be impossible to form correct reads, as you'd have nothing but perhaps VCA to base it off. The scum can easily hide in this and they win the majority of times except for when the town is purely lucky.

Now if people explain their actions others are able to analyse said explanations. This helps town in two ways: if you're town the analysis of others can point out mistakes in your line-of-thought meaning you're able to form more accurate reads. However it also provides more information and chances for scum to slip-up. As such not explaining yourself is literally playing against your win-condition unless there are other factors in play like being a cop etc. If you don't explain your actions and refuse to do so you are then a liability to the town, bad at the game, and should replace out as you're one of the factors lowering the general quality of mafia.

This isn't preachy BS, this is fact. You're playing like a stubborn jack-ass and I'm just waiting for the game to end to talk theory with you once you've fallen from your high pedestal. You also fully underestimate my level of play, I know my town-game and could speak of how I act as town in walls. I wouldn't get excited with a PR and show it, you're so mistaken and caught up in your own cloud that you can't see the way out any more.

I'm not the bad town here, I'm the one explaining my actions and showing my reasons for what I do. I interact with other town to see if I may be mistaken and I always keep in mind I may be wrong. BW, I hold nothing against you, once this game is done we can talk again once you see how wrong you've been this game.

[wgeurts]

Only the morons/scum are entertaining his Bull! Like seriously there needs to be a test you have to pass before you can stop playing newbie games. People wonder why scum wins more than town....

Maybe you should return to the newbie queue so that my "preaching" isn't necessary. If you play in a game with me and you're playing badly I hold the right to call you out on that.

[wgeurts]

Kuroi the better is decided in the results. Wgeurts will die before you push any lynches in this game. And when that happens you will be caught sooo good luck with whatever your planning

I'd hammer that Persival. Going to keep my vote where it is so everyone will remember how hard I tunneled Wgeurts so that when I flip town people can go back and examine the interaction from a confirmed town perspective.

If you kill me tonight you're facing a policy lynch tomorrow, can I get agreement on this from others? This is called leashing.

[Alexcellent]

Kuroi the better is decided in the results. Wgeurts will die before you push any lynches in this game. And when that happens you will be caught sooo good luck with whatever your planning

I'd hammer that Persival. Going to keep my vote where it is so everyone will remember how hard I tunneled Wgeurts so that when I flip town people can go back and examine the interaction from a confirmed town perspective.

If you kill me tonight you're facing a policy lynch tomorrow, can I get agreement on this from others? This is called leashing.

Couldn't this be manipulated by scum?

I'd rather Blacle just agree to not use his vig tonight. Given that the JK might jail him, two shots could end up wasted, so him using the vig tonight would be really bad for town.

[wgeurts]

Kuroi the better is decided in the results. Wgeurts will die before you push any lynches in this game. And when that happens you will be caught sooo good luck with whatever your planning

I'd hammer that Persival. Going to keep my vote where it is so everyone will remember how hard I tunneled Wgeurts so that when I flip town people can go back and examine the interaction from a confirmed town perspective.

If you kill me tonight you're facing a policy lynch tomorrow, can I get agreement on this from others? This is called leashing.

Couldn't this be manipulated by scum?

I'd rather Blacle just agree to not use his vig tonight. Given that the JK might jail him, two shots could end up wasted, so him using the vig tonight would be really bad for town.

Would you rather have a cannonball vig with even more chance to mess up?
Of cause it's manipulatable however I prefer the judgement of the town vs scum over BW.

[wgeurts]

HE will shoot if there's no threat, that's already clear. Even the threat of a JK won't stop him.

[Alexcellent]

Yeah, putting it that way, I'll agree

[BlacleWorks]

Why is it important that Wgeurts stays alive? I just cant seem to figure out his importance to the game

[wgeurts]

Why is it important that Wgeurts stays alive? I just cant seem to figure out his importance to the game

BW, what is the importance of a town player being alive in mafia?

THE TOWN NEEDS TO BE ALIVE TO WIN!

And if you shoot the player making the most content and being the most productive you're a fool.

[wgeurts]

Also BW if you shoot me, we policy lynch you and then the town loses you are solely responsible. If you want to win don't be an idiot.

[BlacleWorks]

Town does not need to be alive to win that would be scum...

[wgeurts]

Town does not need to be alive to win that would be scum...

If all the town die we lose, thus every time someone that's town dies we accelerate scum's win-condition.

[Persivul]

Regarding KT: I don't give a fuck if he's going to be replaced. Look at the wagons. Look at his ISO. It's scummy. Note it NOW befoe someone comes in and cleans up the slot. I've cleaned up some very bad scum slots as a replacement. It's not difficult. In this game, all you need to do is post a wall of non-committal observations and some newbie theory and you're conftown.

@gurts: Yeah, vigs can be negative utiltity, but guess what: you knew there'd be one when you signed up, so quit whining about it. Your continued focus on it, on top of your initial knee-jerk reaction to waste actions by JKing it, is scummy as fuck.

[Aneninen]

VOTE: Wgeurts

Mobilepost.
Don't take it personally, Wgeurts, but enough outta you.
You're speculating, survivalistic, and that we shouldn't lynch the most active player part??? Pigeon poop!

[Aneninen]

Also, suggesting policy lynching the Vig Tomorrow? Dafuq.

[Persivul]

Also BW if you shoot me, we policy lynch you and then the town loses you are solely responsible. If you want to win don't be an idiot.

Fear mongering. Suggesting a PL on a PR. What would professor guerts say about such play? Pretty sure he'd call it scummy.

VOTE: wgeurts

[wgeurts]

VOTE: Wgeurts

Mobilepost.
Don't take it personally, Wgeurts, but enough outta you.
You're speculating, survivalistic, and that we shouldn't lynch the most active player part??? Pigeon poop!

Everything I've or anyone has said is speculation as we have no hard evidence.
Yes, I don't want to die as that advances scum's win-condition.
I never outright said we shouldn't lynch the most active player, I was saying that BW was being a fool blind to the truth. I'm town, anyone can see that.

[wgeurts]

Also, suggesting policy lynching the Vig Tomorrow? Dafuq.

I'm serious.

[wgeurts]

Also BW if you shoot me, we policy lynch you and then the town loses you are solely responsible. If you want to win don't be an idiot.

Fear mongering. Suggesting a PL on a PR. What would professor guerts say about such play? Pretty sure he'd call it scummy.

VOTE: wgeurts

Suggesting a policy lynch on a PR that has the potential to screw over the town if they start screwing over the town, mmmmmmmmh.
And yes I'm flipping fear-mongering BW as he is blind to all reason.

[wgeurts]

If I get lynched today all those that are town should definitely take a look at those resisting the wagon on persivul in exchange for various other counter-wagons one of which being me. I've explained all my thoughts a lot so those will be out there as well. BW will hopefully also knock-off his ego a but when he realises he's been wrong all Day 1, maybe then people can prevent him from being dead-weight.

[wgeurts]

Anen, make a case explaining why not wanting to die, preventing an unpredictable player from screwing up, and posting thoughts about the game is scummy. As you seem to be claiming they are.

As for persivul, he's not town and if he is he's a VI.

[SirCakez]

Wgeurts we're not lynching the Vig :/
Persivul - you literally went from posting a miniwall about KT to voting wgeurts in 3 posts. What's up there?

[drmyshottyizsik]

I just don't see gurts as scum, he has been the most pro town player in the game.