California Trilogy - Dantès in Fresno (Game Over!)

[VitaminR]

If either of you are really interested in ascertaining alignments, I think you'd be trying to find out whether I'm aligned with anyone. I don't get the least sense of that, not even an attempt to connect me with dead known scum.

This seems a very arbritary standard. I did look at the Thesp-Adele interaction, but it was limited and I didn't think much of it.

I still think the LML thing is nonsense. I don't see how Sarc can be convinced about it that easily.

The Mr. Grey vote also strikes me as a distraction.

[Mr. Grey]

Vote Count:

8 to lynch.

MrBuddyLee: 2 (Dragon Phoenix, VitaminR)
Talitha: 2 (LoudmouthLee, Zindaras)
IH: 1 (Talitha)
LoudmouthLee: 1 (Sarcastro/Dani Banani)
Mr. Grey: 1 (Gaspar)

Current Condorcet Winner:

MrBuddyLee

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[Dragon Phoenix]

I fully agree with VitaminR on these issues. We are wasting valuable time on these most likely non-issues instead of trying to get to a real lynch. If there is fishy business going on with the mod, it can be sorted out later (they did that to me in the endplay of DP13).

[foolinc]

VirR and DP: Why is the Mr. Grey a distraction? We know that he's on the lists for a reason. Why couldn't he be a real lynch? And why is MBL a better lynch than Mr. Grey?

[Dragon Phoenix]

Why would lynching the mod in this stage of the game be a good idea? Most likely we would just be wasting a lynch (effectively meaning a no-lynch vote). I see no clear case against Mr. Grey, whereas there are several scummy candidates for a rope.

[Gaspar]

I'd just like to point out that less than half of the town is even voting, and we're over halfway through the day.


CES, foolinc, IH, logicticus, MrBuddyLee, Pooky, Tamuz, and Zindaras: Is there

any

reason that you're holding back your votes? Are you happy with the "sit around and wait, and then leave less than 48 hours to allow for adjustments pending a significant claim" approach that has been prevelant during the first two days?

[Zindaras]

Mr. Grey missed my vote in 1192.

[Mr. Grey]

Vote count corrected above.

[foolinc]

I'd just like to point out that less than half of the town is even voting, and we're over halfway through the day.


CES, foolinc, IH, logicticus, MrBuddyLee, Pooky, Tamuz, and Zindaras: Is there

any

reason that you're holding back your votes? Are you happy with the "sit around and wait, and then leave less than 48 hours to allow for adjustments pending a significant claim" approach that has been prevelant during the first two days?

Actually, I was quite busy up until today. I'm making my list as we speak.

[MrBuddyLee]

logicticus, can you please explain your thoughts on CES, foolinc and Talitha?

[MrBuddyLee]

Pooky, can you please explain your thoughts on Sarcastro and his predecessors, on IH, on Gaspar, and on the wisdom of pitching a starter after only three days rest?

[Gaspar]

mrbuddylee could u reply 2 my case against u and post some of ur own opinions plz and explain y u havent voted yet??

kthxbai



ps o yea die 2 lolol

[foolinc]

I think my list is pretty much self explainitory from my actions this day.

Vote: Talitha

, PookyTheMagicalBear, Mr. Grey, MrBuddyLee, [Sarcastro, Tamuz] [VitaminR, Dragon Phoenix], [Cogito Ergo Sum, logicticus], [Gaspar, Zindaras, IH], LoudmouthLee, no lynch, foolinc

[Sarcastro]

Hey, Foolinc, why haven't you answered my question yet?

[foolinc]

Hey, Foolinc, why haven't you answered my question yet?

I looked at Tali's posts with the filter and thought it was refering to you. My bad.

[Sarcastro]

That wasn't the question. The question was why you were so eager when you didn't know the context. What did you expect from my answer, exactly?

[foolinc]

That wasn't the question. The question was why you were so eager when you didn't know the context. What did you expect from my answer, exactly?

It's irrelevlant since it wasn't actually meant for you. If it was then I would love to know why did answer that, but it wasn't for you so the question is null and void.

[foolinc]

Meh I meant didn't answer the question, not did answer that...

[Talitha]

If I get lynched today, so be it, but I EXPECT LML and IH to follow as soon as possible.

In the meantime I am going to try and find the time and energy to go over the thread and make a much better case against both of them.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Why certainly MBL,

1. I don't think Sarc or either of his previous incarnations contributed enough discussion to pin down exactly what his alignment is, however the posts seem to indicate to me that he was a scum who was uncomfortable with making a move since the town was moving in the wrong direction on those days rather than a townie who wanted to move it into the right direction however, this could easily be indifference.

2. I don't think IH is scum because of the theory he posted, I don't think a scum would try to do something like that and stick his neck out.

3. I think Gaspar is scum because of his attitude towards my attack on Lee and because of how hellbent he seems to be on lynching Mr. Grey which I think is pretty stupid and a waste of a lynch since we have no real evidence that Mr. Grey is killing anyone and I don't think Mith would include a serial killer mod in this game.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I totally forgot about your question about starting a starter after 3 days rest.

I think its certainly a gamble that can pay off if the starter is good enough to warrant it, take for example how the Dbacks started Schilling on 3 days rest twice in order to take down the Yankees in the WS02 because Schilling had been dominant.

However I think Torre's decision to start Wang in the series was a bad one because Wang never really got into a groove against the Indians in game 1 and he had never started on 3 days rest before, I think he should've pulled Wang earlier when the sinker wasn't sinking instead of waiting for him to get into so deep of a hole.

[VitaminR]

Why would lynching the mod in this stage of the game be a good idea? Most likely we would just be wasting a lynch (effectively meaning a no-lynch vote). I see no clear case against Mr. Grey, whereas there are several scummy candidates for a rope.

This pretty much captures my opinion.

I agree with Pooky that Gaspar's focus on Mr. Grey isn't helping the town.

I do agree with Gaspar that we need more voting. The majority of the town putting off their vote until very late gives us little room to manoeuvre in later on.

[foolinc]

Why would lynching the mod in this stage of the game be a good idea? Most likely we would just be wasting a lynch (effectively meaning a no-lynch vote). I see no clear case against Mr. Grey, whereas there are several scummy candidates for a rope.

I forgot to respond to this. I can see where you are coming from but unlike the rest of us, Mr. Grey can't answer questions and can't be caught in lies. There is also another reason, which is mostly based on gut. In my ability section of the role pm it said I might not be able to save everyone. It's a possiblity that it was referring to death caused by Mr. Grey. Of course I could be overthinking about that. It could just be some flavor commenting on the fact that I can't save the lives of people getting lynched.

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

Guys, we need to focus on finding scum rather than worrying about Mr Grey and silly coincidences. I acknowledge that I myself have been lacking in this area recently and I resolve to re-read the game and help give this game a boost.

We need to find scum to lynch.

[MrBuddyLee]

VitR,

This "agreeability" strategy really works for you, huh?

I reviewed your posts and you've asked only one or two questions of people this game, and the answers to those questions would result in the same general feel I get from all of your comments in this game: nearly every remark is designed to attract the least amount of scrutiny and the maximum amount of agreement.

I would LOVE to see a complete top-to-bottom list of suspicions from you. You're the kind of player who, if scum, will coast to endgame uncontested. I'd like you fully on the record each step of the way if you would, please. Bonus points if you say something disagreeable