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Post Post #1250 (ISO) » Tue Apr 05, 2016 11:09 am

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In post 1248, hiplop wrote:zakk are you scum that sounded really fake

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Post Post #1251 (ISO) » Tue Apr 05, 2016 11:41 am

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none of this explains why pers didnt claim the ascetic despite knowing it was negative utility

not lynching pers is pretty indefensible atp
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Post Post #1252 (ISO) » Tue Apr 05, 2016 12:16 pm

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In post 1239, Persivul wrote:I've only seen ascetic once before and they didn't claim.

1) were they town?

if not, i'm guessing they were a newb who never saw the role before and didn't know what to do.

you had several options:
> you could have straight up claimed the ascetic
> you could've dropped subtle crumbs
> you could've just vaguely said "don't target me" and just left it at that.
> fuck, you could've gambited and claimed pgo

there's things you could've done, but you made no effort to be proactive and get town pr's to not target you. you played your role to maximum scum utility AND the kicker is that you knew it was stepping on town's toes but didn't do anything about it.


now you're selling the "oh well look the mod made TOWN all these things" but i'm not buying. it's too late for that and these are all reactive responses to getting caught out by flubber's track.
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Post Post #1253 (ISO) » Tue Apr 05, 2016 1:31 pm

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In post 1227, Hellhound wrote:oh so i misinterpreted the results we got.

we DID get flubber's results. it was a "no result" on persivul.

i am now ok w/ lynching persivul.

VOTE: persivul


Why does a "no result" make you ok with lynching Persi? He's in my guess for the scumteam too, but I'm wondering why this specifically.
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Post Post #1254 (ISO) » Tue Apr 05, 2016 1:36 pm

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Also, that Persi is perfectly fine with lynching Hiplop is giving me second thoughts about Hiplop :/
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Post Post #1255 (ISO) » Tue Apr 05, 2016 2:24 pm

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My main question is why would Persivul claim out of the blue like that?
Especially with such a negative-utility looking role.
It's either town trying to put info on the table about their negative utility (in my experience, Ascetic always claims ASAP) or it's scum gambiting that claiming their negative utility will get them townread.
In either case, there really wasn't much pressure to lynch Persivul anyway, right? I thought it was going to be down to Lane or Hiplop, tbh.

I don't know how to make heads or tails of it. I guess we trust him on the claim, though.

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Post Post #1256 (ISO) » Tue Apr 05, 2016 2:32 pm

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lol eap is scum with persivul
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Post Post #1257 (ISO) » Tue Apr 05, 2016 2:54 pm

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That's the only way you get to corral for both of us to get lynched so that you can swing off your hard push on me should a Persivul wagon spring up, right?
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Post Post #1258 (ISO) » Tue Apr 05, 2016 2:55 pm

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Fencesit harder, Scumlop.
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Post Post #1259 (ISO) » Tue Apr 05, 2016 2:57 pm

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thank you for proving you're not reading the thread varsoon
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Post Post #1260 (ISO) » Tue Apr 05, 2016 2:58 pm

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In post 1227, Hellhound wrote:oh so i misinterpreted the results we got.

we DID get flubber's results. it was a "no result" on persivul.

i am now ok w/ lynching persivul.

VOTE: persivul

JUST on the last page

this is why pers claimed.

it's wasn't out of the blue
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Post Post #1261 (ISO) » Tue Apr 05, 2016 2:59 pm

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I'd love for you to illuminate how I'm not reading, bro.
Seeing as there's about two posts every day, it's a pretty farfetched claim to make.

A "No Result" on persivul does not equal a need to claim, homie.
Especially given Persivul's claim, if true. :P
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Post Post #1262 (ISO) » Tue Apr 05, 2016 3:00 pm

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Like, there was literal no pressure to claim.
Hellhound votes are proven worthless votes with no pressure in this game.
Otherwise I would've been lynched D1, right?
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Post Post #1263 (ISO) » Tue Apr 05, 2016 3:01 pm

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That's what I'm saying, that's what I'm commenting on.
Maybe you need to re-read the thread. :D
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Post Post #1264 (ISO) » Tue Apr 05, 2016 3:04 pm

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In post 1261, Edgar Allan Pro wrote:A "No Result" on persivul does not equal a need to claim, homie.

in this case, yeah it kinda does.

for there to be no result:
flubber got roleblocked and killed in the same night (not likely)
pers had to have gotten rolestopped (pretty scummy)
pers is an ascetic

why wouldn't pers, as scum, go ahead and fess up to the ascetic?
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Post Post #1265 (ISO) » Tue Apr 05, 2016 4:08 pm

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Derp, you got me, I am illiterate.
I misread the claim as Ascetizer twice, rather than Ascetic and then evolved to Ascetizer.
I thought it was like SirCakez, where he got an single shot and could evolve into a second shot.
In this case, yeah, you're right.

Would "No Result" still be yielded if Persivul didn't visit anyone anyway or would it say "Persivul didn't visit anyone"?
Because if "No Result" is is indicative of not visiting anyone, then it's no pressure, but if "No Result" absolutely means a blocked action/rolestopped/ascetic, then I do see what you mean.
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Post Post #1266 (ISO) » Tue Apr 05, 2016 4:57 pm

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In post 1258, Edgar Allan Pro wrote:Fencesit harder, Scumlop.
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Post Post #1267 (ISO) » Tue Apr 05, 2016 5:23 pm

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In post 1256, hiplop wrote:lol eap is scum with persivul

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Post Post #1268 (ISO) » Tue Apr 05, 2016 6:10 pm

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In post 1266, hiplop wrote:
In post 1258, Edgar Allan Pro wrote:Fencesit harder, Scumlop.
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fence....sit?

"I'll just call both other high-profile players up to lynch today scum so that if the votes swing to anyone but me, I can vote there and look like I'm not just lolhammering like I did yesterday."
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Post Post #1269 (ISO) » Tue Apr 05, 2016 6:11 pm

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Who as AM'd yesterday, by the way?
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Post Post #1270 (ISO) » Tue Apr 05, 2016 6:15 pm

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youre both scumtogether

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Post Post #1271 (ISO) » Tue Apr 05, 2016 6:20 pm

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Nope, try again.
You're scum and I'm lynching you.
You still haven't excused or explained your horrible play yesterday.
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Post Post #1272 (ISO) » Tue Apr 05, 2016 6:22 pm

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In post 1269, Edgar Allan Pro wrote:Who as AM'd yesterday, by the way?


Why'd you dodge this question, Hiplop?
If I am reading the game right, you were AntiMutagen'd yesterday, meaning you couldn't evolve.
Why did you troll hammer when there were two other players who you could have let vote and gain more powers?
Even if you think I'm scum, why did you do that when you don't seem to be scumreading Specter Deflectors?

VOTE: Hiplop

Die.
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Post Post #1273 (ISO) » Tue Apr 05, 2016 6:24 pm

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Post Post #1274 (ISO) » Tue Apr 05, 2016 6:30 pm

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you called me a fence sitter despite having VERY EXTREME OPINIONS

that is absurd. You're throwing around buzzwords trying tof ind something that clicks. You know I'm town and it pains you to vote me
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