New York 194: Guns N' Roses Mafia! (Day 8)

[Creature]

Kop's and KAAG's votes look opportunistic.

[Creature]

SirCakez

If you were so sure I am scum, why didn't you vote me or anything? You're being very hesitanty too.

[GuyFawkes]

are you an alt?

Did you think he is an Alt Guy?

I thought he might be but if he says he's not I'll take his word for it

[Creature]

Egg

I want to know what's wrong with post #9.

[Creature]

Scum reads: SirCakez, GuyFawkes, Kop, KAAG and Drixx.

[Creature]

SirCakez's scum play, I see no difference.

[Creature]

^ Mean't to put ISO

[pisskop]

I thought town of salem was a little avatar peoples game where you spent like 10 minutes a day?

thats a forum

[Kop]

I thought town of salem was a little avatar peoples game where you spent like 10 minutes a day?

thats a forum

I went on and didn't like the look of that board. I don't think I could get used to it.

Back on topic.

Why are we using there game style from another forum? I have a different style of play over on this site, compared to the ones I play over on another forum that I play mafia on.

[Slandaar]

What do you think the "Two stones, one scum" means?

I have no clue.

[Creature]

Just look at how many players were voting quick repeating stupid statements, and look how many players disappeared after placing their vote, anyone doubt this is a scum-driven wagon?

[Slandaar]

Creature, I know I didn't explicitly say I would like you to explain what you mean, but clearly, I would.

[Creature]

What do you think the "Two stones, one scum" means?

I have no clue.

Two scummy players, one scum slot.

I didn't see Mafiaturtle doing anything besides quick jumping on wagons and commenting about Ness' V/LA.
While Drixx has been pretending to claim survivor, commenting on how awkward it'd be if he was mislynched and talking about meta.

[Slandaar]

Drixx didn't pretend to claim survivor.

UNVOTE: Creature
VOTE: Guy

I think this is better.

But like ... tell me if you're seriously going to wagon me for that before I read the 400 posts before my replace-in, because

it would be kind of dickish to have me catch up and read things just to be mislynched

.

When you replace in there is no rule stating you cannot be lynched. You knew there is that risk so I find this line very ugly. Maybe you should catch up and make yourself really obviously town and then no problem, right? I think this is actually a scum mentality but am debating it with myself.

Did you think you would be lynched for saying you are scum?

[Boonskiies]

Prodge. Will catch up when I can.

[Creature]

You have no opinion on SirCakez at all?

[KickAssAndGiggle]

There was nothing opportunistic about my vote Creature.

Creature:

Creature, how many games have you played? Do you prefer being town or scum? Does being scum make you feel more nervous or confident (or if you've never been scum, which do you think would be true?.

Creature. Creature. Hey Creature. Yeah, you

.-.

You dodged that question, not once but twice.

Starting to feel bad vibes from Creature, why are you ignoring Egg's question?

The only reason you're scum reading me is because I didn't answer his question soon?

I said I got bad vibes, did I say I was scum-reading you? Vote was for motivation.

VOTE: Drixx

Two stones, one scum

Yeah...I know you've clarified this, but...LOLWUT??!?!?

If you notice, SirCakez is only scum reading easy mislynch targets.

I've never played with Irao or Jam, and you are pinging me constantly so yea those are my scumreads.

VOTE: SirCakez

You were so sure on Drixx that your vote lasted a full 23 minutes. And you are calling OTHERS opportunistic?

If you notice, SirCakez is only scum reading easy mislynch targets.

Are you an easy mislynch target? If yes, is that someone other than your own fault?

Scum reads: SirCakez, GuyFawkes, Kop, KAAG and Drixx.

Yeah...no. GuyFawkes/Kop have little content, KAAG wasn't opportunistic, Drixx didn't claim survivor. Only SirCakez is even vaguely credible.

Got any town-reads for us?

[Killthestory]

VOTE: Sircakez

[Creature]

KAAG

Spoiler:

There was nothing opportunistic about my vote Creature.

I felt you were at first.

Creature:

Creature, how many games have you played? Do you prefer being town or scum? Does being scum make you feel more nervous or confident (or if you've never been scum, which do you think would be true?.

Creature. Creature. Hey Creature. Yeah, you

.-.

You dodged that question, not once but twice.

The first time he asked I decided to answer later, because I didn't see how much it'd help (looks like a RQS question for me). The second time he asked I didn't notice, maybe this is why it caused the third. And at the third time I didn't understand what Egg mean't at all (because of the second).

Starting to feel bad vibes from Creature, why are you ignoring Egg's question?

The only reason you're scum reading me is because I didn't answer his question soon?

I said I got bad vibes, did I say I was scum-reading you? Vote was for motivation.

What did you mean by bad vibes? For me it's the same as slight scum reading.

VOTE: Drixx

Two stones, one scum

Yeah...I know you've clarified this, but...LOLWUT??!?!?

I am just going to be honest, I wanted to see how everyone would interpret it, not sure why, but maybe I could get something.

If you notice, SirCakez is only scum reading easy mislynch targets.

I've never played with Irao or Jam, and you are pinging me constantly so yea those are my scumreads.

VOTE: SirCakez

You were so sure on Drixx that your vote lasted a full 23 minutes. And you are calling OTHERS opportunistic?

I felt the need to vote SirCakez, his scum list seemed sheepy (seeing he has only accused who he noticed that were poor at defending).

If you notice, SirCakez is only scum reading easy mislynch targets.

Are you an easy mislynch target? If yes, is that someone other than your own fault?

My fault, but I am pretty sure my intentions were aiming to get me a better idea on everybody else. Just wondering, how do you work with less experienced players?

Scum reads: SirCakez, GuyFawkes, Kop, KAAG and Drixx.

Yeah...no. GuyFawkes/Kop have little content, KAAG wasn't opportunistic, Drixx didn't claim survivor. Only SirCakez is even vaguely credible.

GuyFawkes is avoiding the me vs SirCakez. Kop's vote was pretty opportunistic.

Got any town-reads for us?

S_S, Killthestory and Egg are my clear town reads.
Maybe I have a town feeling on Jam, Iraon, Slaandar and Ilikebugs.
I was town reading Fragger earlier, but he's quickly changing.
You convinced me to change my view on you, but I'd like you to answer me.

tbh I can answer better if you ask: "What's your opinion on X?"

[Drixx]

Drixx didn't pretend to claim survivor.

UNVOTE: Creature
VOTE: Guy

I think this is better.

But like ... tell me if you're seriously going to wagon me for that before I read the 400 posts before my replace-in, because

it would be kind of dickish to have me catch up and read things just to be mislynched

.

When you replace in there is no rule stating you cannot be lynched. You knew there is that risk so I find this line very ugly. Maybe you should catch up and make yourself really obviously town and then no problem, right? I think this is actually a scum mentality but am debating it with myself.

Did you think you would be lynched for saying you are scum?

You were there the last time someone posed a lose/lose question to me as a "reaction test", and if you recall I pointed out that it was a trap and declined to answer, and I'm sure you recall how that turned out.

[Axl_Rose]

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With 21 Alive, it's 11 to Lynch!

Mod Notes:

"Welcome to the Jungle"
[Prodding Ozgin]

• (0)
  Boonskiies
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  Ozgin
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  Kop
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  Killthestory
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  (3)
  Reubus Swagrid
  — Ilikebugs, Ozgin, Drixx
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  pisskop
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  Performer
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  Drixx
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  Ilikebugs
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  SirCakez
  — Creature, Killthestory
  
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  Creature
  — Kop, KickAssAndGiggle, Egg, Something_Smart, jam
  
  (1)
  GuyFawkes
  — Slandaar
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  Something_Smart
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  Egg
  — Golden Robster
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  Slandaar
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  jam
  — SirCakez, GuyFawkes
  
  (4)
  iraonavp
  — Performer, pisskop, SnarkySnowman, Fraggernaut
  
  (1)
  Golden Robster
  — Boonskiies
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  KickAssAndGiggle
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  Fraggernaut
  — iraonavp
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  SnarkySnowman
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  [Not Voting]
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  Reubus Swagrid

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[SirCakez]

First off

VOTE: Creature
Legit forgot to move my vote lol.

Ilikebugs reading newbtown to me all over the place along with his VT claim. Would not lynch there today period.

Sircake, did you actually read my reasoning on Drixx critically? It wasn't just because he told a funny joke.

I skimmed it tbh. Will review that after this.

(watches scum pushing an easy mislynch)

10/10 defense

Drixx didn't pretend to claim survivor.

UNVOTE: Creature
VOTE: Guy

I think this is better.

But like ... tell me if you're seriously going to wagon me for that before I read the 400 posts before my replace-in, because

it would be kind of dickish to have me catch up and read things just to be mislynched

.

When you replace in there is no rule stating you cannot be lynched. You knew there is that risk so I find this line very ugly. Maybe you should catch up and make yourself really obviously town and then no problem, right? I think this is actually a scum mentality but am debating it with myself.

Did you think you would be lynched for saying you are scum?

You know Guy is lynchbait Slandaar, you were in Ice Cream. Not a very good vote.

KAAG reinforcing he is town

[SirCakez]

Irao, so you think he's faking effort rather than actually putting it in?

Drixx, I remember you being a very ethical type who doesn't like lying (correct me if I'm wrong). The way you said you weren't third party, specifically, felt like you wanted to avoid a lie with "I'm town" or "I'm not scum". So I asked you straight out to see if you'd avoid it again and you did so by jokingly claiming scum. So basically my theory is you didn't want to lie and used a joke instead. 415 also feels awfully defensive. And 417 feels defeatist for someone at L-9.

This is silly reasoning, sorry. Saying he joked to avoid directly lying is a bad reason for a vote. Don't agree about 415 and 417 either.

[Egg]

Fair enough. Thanks for clearing that up.

Who's your top scumread right now, Egg?

Creature.

Creature, I think post 9 has been covered enough, but let me summarize. You admitted some nervousness about being scum. I gave you the benefit of the doubt that maybe it was an excitement thing, but you confirmed that it wasn't before you knew why I was asking. Your Role PM was fresh in your mind and we were just starting out so I think you may have recieved a scum PM and some of your nervousness came out. I know it doesn't sound like much, but I can't even count the number of times it's turned out to be accurate. Specifically off the top of my head, I remember catching Reck and cooldog with that tell when they were new. If I were to go back through my games, I bet I could find it a bunch more times. Others have covered things I think you've done that are scummy as well. For example, the hypocracy around people voting "easy" targets, whatever that phrase even means anymore these days. Oh, and just to clarify, there was nothing RQS about my questioning. I was working around my theory to see if it had any merit or not. I don't RQS.

I am just going to be honest, I wanted to see how everyone would interpret it, not sure why, but maybe I could get something.

Hmm. I didn't have an issue with that quote before you said this. Now, Iunno...

Sircake, someone typically being lynch bait doesn't make them town. What is your read on Guy?

[SirCakez]

I'm aware Egg but he's not a priority for me basically.
Null atm