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[Sakura Hana]

Wait a second, wouldnt another PR outing mean that Boons is counter-claimed? I don't understand why you say "ANOTHER" town PR.

[chilledtea]

Yeah, no. Exp is town.

Scum is in {dierfire, lowell, garmr, boonskiies}. I think lowell might be town in this.

Also if you think I am not going to "Jump Wagons" after basically a scum claim by boon then you are mistaken.

[mhsmith0]

I'll listen. I just REALLY don't want to risk lynching a town PR when it's super obvious that he's dead meat by D4 at the absolutely latest if he's lying scum anyway. I mean, he's declared JOAT. "Oh I forgot to use my powers" isn't exactly going to fly for this group (at least I hope not).

[mhsmith0]

Wait a second, wouldnt another PR outing mean that Boons is counter-claimed? I don't understand why you say "ANOTHER" town PR.

You and Boon have declared PR's. That's two. Another would be #3. Although i suppose that claim would make it very likely that Boon was lying.

I still prefer giving scum the chance to NK boon and if he's still alive pushing him a lot harder on what he did N2 and why.

[Expedience]

I was reaction testing Boon, he didn't react how a Town PR reacts to someone that he's scumreading claims.

it was just a prank

who do you find worse, the reaction tester who was already scum-reading boon, or the guy who hops onto the wagon just for that reason?

the one with the anime avatar and implausible fakeclaim

But really, I think chilled tea is arrogantly mislead town. When he argues with you he doesn't call you scum or heavily misrepresent you or spam rhetoric, y'know? Also he quickhammered Madonna, that seemed pretty obnoxiously self-assured. He just always stays chilled tea

There are 6 players voting Boonskiies and they all have bad reasons for being there. If I was looking for scum there chilledtea would be like the fourth person I looked at or something.

[Expedience]

Wait a second, wouldnt another PR outing mean that Boons is counter-claimed? I don't understand why you say "ANOTHER" town PR.

Yeah, glad to see we agree that Boonskiies won't be counterclaimed.

[mhsmith0]

@exp: I suppose the whole boon wagon deserves a fresh look in the morning. I just find CT's flip from "I don't want a Boon lynch" to voting him non-credible. His Dier push seems OMGUS more than anything else, but I'll take another look in the morning.

[chilledtea]

Wait a second, wouldnt another PR outing mean that Boons is counter-claimed? I don't understand why you say "ANOTHER" town PR.

Yeah, glad to see we agree that Boonskiies won't be counterclaimed.

Oh he will be.

I am jailkeeper. Happy?

[Expedience]

Wait are you serious noooo wtf how

[chilledtea]

Yeah, I am serious. Sheesh guys. I was hot on his head for this reason as well.

[mhsmith0]

oh god this game gives me such a damn headache
UNVOTE: chilledtea

I'll (try to) sort this shit out in the morning or something.

[Expedience]

Okay boonskies is scum then lets wait a bit before hammering though

[chilledtea]

Don't hammer now. Wait a bit.

[chilledtea]

I jailkept garmr by the way.

[Expedience]

Garmr's probably scum. Idk, need to rethink shit.

[chilledtea]

UNVOTE:

[chilledtea]

Take a good look at this list :

{dierfire, lowell, boonskiies, garmr}

This is very important. Scum might be outside it but there definitely is inside it, at least 2. There is a very small chance that garmr is not scum but remember there was no kill on night 1. I always KNEW boon was scum I was buddying him so that I could try and block another kill jesus christ guys, you should know that scum always try to out the doctor/jk when they are getting lynched and when they know there is a protective role.

[chilledtea]

Lowell tried to out the JK too remember with his "someone might have roleblocked texcat". Yeah, he could be scum.

Guess what, I was outed by most likely townies instead. Exp, smith, sakura, all townreads I mean come on guys.

[chilledtea]

Also the only reason I claimed was because I was very heavy on Boon's push - scum might have got a hint I don't know. Originally I wanted to lynch garmr and then go for boon but this works too. If I am nightkilled then you at least have some data to work with.

[Garmr]

Hell, after exp's "let's see if we can get ANOTHER town PR to declare" push I might even be willing to entertain his lynch. I feel like that's a bigger stretch, but I'll at least listen (tomorrow).

I don't mind lynching exp today.

[Almost50]

It is possible, but really at this point they need to just claim if they are a jailkeeper or stopped a kill or whatever.

THIS happens to be what this is all about. The scum team want the protective role outed. I have seen it at least twice before (Titus & Karnage). The first Titus was @ L-1 and claimed Cop and Guilty Lion hammered as a counter claim thus outing himself. The second (incidentally Titus was Karnage's scum partner in that game too). I only replaced in on the last day though, so that one isn't on my wiki, but I remember when the cop didn't counter Titus tried to provoke a claim never-the-less, which helped me through my read overnight and as soon as the day started I was there to place the hammer w/o hesitation.

[Almost50]

SO IF YOUR ROLE IS ONE WHICH MAY HAVE PREVENTED A KILL LAST NIGHT, YOU MUST CLAIM IN YOUR NEXT POST.

No they should not. They should not out themselves with no reason other than to satisfy you and your partners.

@Doctor/RoleBlocker: Please don't claim (if you haven't done so already. I have yet to read the last couple of pages, but the thread is open so no hammer I think.)

[Almost50]

Sure, except if no one CC's... im vengekilling YOU instead.

No, Sakura. You still kill Boons. Boons flips scum and Expedience is confirmed scum for his hardcore defence. Lowell should be third to fall.

[Almost50]

and then tomorrow if one of you is dead, we can grill the other based on the flip?

And what happens if they're both still alive??? We lynch another townie and wait. Right???

[Almost50]

if he's still alive pushing him a lot harder on what he did N2 and why.

All he has to do is claim he was RB'd. In fact, that is the reason why he changed from soft claiming JK to hard claiming JOAT.

Man, you just dropped two notches on my read list. The only two reasons why you're not in my scum pool already is that you remind me of myself with your stubbornness, and the fact that I've already set my mind on the trio of Boons, Expedience & Lowell being scum together.

Smith, we had a situation like this on D1. Lowell almost got lynched, and the wagon on him miraculously got redirected towards a TOWN PR (Madonna was a Universal Backup). I'm not going to make the same mistake twice. I'd rather lose bc I went through with the lynch on my scum read than to lose bc I yielded to outside pressure to abandon the wago and join one that I'm not feeling. NO WAY!