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Post Post #1050 (ISO) » Sun Oct 07, 2007 5:32 pm

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Ah goodam we shall see won't we. The "If Necessary" is key.
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Post Post #1051 (ISO) » Sun Oct 07, 2007 5:33 pm

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If necessary means that it is necessary if there is a vote, and isn't necessary if there is no vote. That is the clear and irrefutable definition of necessary.
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Post Post #1052 (ISO) » Sun Oct 07, 2007 5:34 pm

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theopor_COD wrote:Ah goodam we shall see won't we. The "If Necessary" is key.
It WAS necessary. I'm sure if necessary meant "if you had a vote already". that would make unvote necessary. So pay attention!
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Post Post #1053 (ISO) » Sun Oct 07, 2007 5:35 pm

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Well guess that's me looking stupid twice in one day. Fucking genius.
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Post Post #1054 (ISO) » Sun Oct 07, 2007 5:42 pm

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I do however think it's going to be up to the mod, as previously - votecount on Page 39 has Pickem voting Zebra.
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He doesn't unvote, but votes ABR.
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fuck how was something that obvious so blind to me. better yet how has everyone missed that fact.


Vote: ABR



let's lynch the 2 obvious scum already plz.
Next votecount the ABR vote stands.
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A precendent has been set we shall see. So it's been let through the net before, can't have one rule for one and one rule for the others.
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Post Post #1055 (ISO) » Sun Oct 07, 2007 5:43 pm

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I could probably sift my way through the rest of the thread and find other examples so it's over to Atticus.
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Post Post #1056 (ISO) » Sun Oct 07, 2007 5:45 pm

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Well pickem's vote wasnt a hammer so who knows what Atticus will decide...
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Post Post #1057 (ISO) » Sun Oct 07, 2007 5:46 pm

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I would like Atticus to consult with other moderators on the issue, as he looks biaised towards ending the game faster so he can mod a mini theme.

This game was pretty messed up with ChronX missing his investigation result...I think the town deserves it here.
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Post Post #1058 (ISO) » Sun Oct 07, 2007 5:47 pm

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Indeed . . . but I don't see any real difference ultimately the vote got counted without the unvote.
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Post Post #1059 (ISO) » Sun Oct 07, 2007 5:49 pm

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I've hammered once, and my hammer was illegal because I didn't unvote. I'm still bitter about it. Shit happens man. How confident are you that scum can win if you didn't hammer ?
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Post Post #1060 (ISO) » Sun Oct 07, 2007 5:50 pm

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Maybe if someone went "OMG PICKEM DIDNT UNVOTE BEFORE VOTING ABR" Atticus would've acted.. but it just wasnt an important vote like this one.
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Post Post #1061 (ISO) » Sun Oct 07, 2007 5:52 pm

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I can appreciate your stance on it but fact is Pickem's vote was counted before. ABR I'd rather not speculate on anything else besides this issue at present, fact is I was excitable to see the fourth vote appear which I've been waiting to for yonks lol, we shall have to wait and see what the mod decides with or without assistance.
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Post Post #1062 (ISO) » Sun Oct 07, 2007 5:57 pm

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Wow, this is rape.
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Post Post #1063 (ISO) » Sun Oct 07, 2007 5:58 pm

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D3, why are you not voting for COD ?
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Post Post #1064 (ISO) » Sun Oct 07, 2007 5:59 pm

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unvote; vote Theopor
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Post Post #1065 (ISO) » Sun Oct 07, 2007 6:00 pm

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kravhen wrote:Maybe if someone went "OMG PICKEM DIDNT UNVOTE BEFORE VOTING ABR" Atticus would've acted.. but it just wasnt an important vote like this one.
Pickem's wasn't important I can live with but d3sisted's vote on Page 30 was much more important and yet again didn't include an unvote.

Atticus' votecount has him on ABR.
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ChronX
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Not Voting (1): Erotomachia
There's no unvote, d3sisted moves onto Chronx. I hammer. So yeh that was much more important.
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NabakovNabakov's first post on ChronX I didn't feel had much substance. His second case, I liked a lot more.

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Post Post #1066 (ISO) » Sun Oct 07, 2007 6:02 pm

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Sure but what is done is done. It would be bastard modding if we TOLD him beforehand that somebody forgot to unvote and he would carry on with a lynch scene.
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Post Post #1067 (ISO) » Sun Oct 07, 2007 6:02 pm

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Anyways we shall see but frankly if the vote isn't counted well then it totally fucks the game up personally considering it's happened twice before. Surprising you didn't all make a big song and dance about d3sisted lack of an unvote. I'll leave it to the mod to decide.
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Post Post #1068 (ISO) » Sun Oct 07, 2007 6:03 pm

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Albert - it's done, Atticus will have to make the decision. Your going to try and twist it but it's occured twice before, once at just a crucial stage.
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Post Post #1069 (ISO) » Sun Oct 07, 2007 6:04 pm

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theopor_COD wrote:Anyways we shall see but frankly if the vote isn't counted well then it totally fucks the game up personally considering it's happened twice before. Surprising you didn't all make a big song and dance about d3sisted lack of an unvote. I'll leave it to the mod to decide.
We obviously didn't have the time to do that. Heck, Atticus would have said "remember to unvote next time" if he had noticed it. He carried on with the lynch scene and it was too late to look back.

Atm you're just trying to dig yourself out of a hole, really. You messed up, someone luckily caught on it and alerted everyone and the game should carry on.
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Post Post #1070 (ISO) » Sun Oct 07, 2007 6:06 pm

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Well as I say I disagree. Your the one clutching at straws because frankly your claims got you into this mess. Atticus will make the decision if he doesn't let the vote to stand then I guess we'll have to discuss it afterwards but appreciate my position.
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Post Post #1071 (ISO) » Sun Oct 07, 2007 6:07 pm

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unvote vote:ABR

unvote: vote: theopor



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Post Post #1072 (ISO) » Sun Oct 07, 2007 6:08 pm

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I donno man. Rules are rules. Trying to interpret the statement like that isn't right.

In all my games, unvotes were necessary unless in the rules, like those of Kelly, said specifically "I do not mind if you don't unvote" or something to that nature. The rules say unvote, so unvote. This isn't a suggestion, its a rule.
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Post Post #1073 (ISO) » Sun Oct 07, 2007 6:12 pm

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Maybe so . . . but it's not the first time it's happened in this game. I'm not going to cry about it but obviously would be slightly peeved it didn't stand due to the earlier precendents. Depends on the mod.
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Post Post #1074 (ISO) » Sun Oct 07, 2007 6:13 pm

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O.K. look at it this way. Do two wrongs make a right ?
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