(1765) Star Wars: The Force Awakens [D5]

[Venmar]

I'm just curious, who did you pass the map to Trollie.

(I'm probably going to vote Eagle soon :/)

[TheTrollie]

im voting eagle soon too

I passed to Gork

[Keyser Söze]

@TheTrollie - who did you try to investigate lastnight (no result)?

[TheTrollie]

@keyser use been MIA for 4 days it'd help if you could get up to speed

[TheTrollie]

i.e. i got "no result" and just assumed that meant my investigation of Eagle was that he wasn't Snoke or Kylo

As far as I see it, there are 3 possible explanations

(a) Eagle is lying, he is a scum roleblocker, and he targeted me (wish I realized this earlier, would have made Eagle claim first)

(b) Eagle is lying, he has a role modifier which would mess with my investigation (because I targeted eagle-so like reflexive roleblocker)

(c) Someone else is lying, they are a scum roleblock/jailkeeper (

what other roles could prevent a cop investigation from going through?

)

If C is true, then A is probably true too though since I think a scum and town roleblocking role is strange.

If C or A, there is likely with 1 more member of the mafia team. I dont see a 3rd party blocking me.

So I think the conclusion is that we lynch Eagle today. The probability that eagle is town with these results is slim to none

Not if he's first order or reflexive
The kill was made figuring the 1shot claim was bs
The block was made figuring my limitations claim was bs

Sense a pattern?

We have a paranoid scum

[xRECKONERx]

Prodded Keyser & Eagle.

24h and no response from Eagle. Replacement process beginning.

[TheTrollie]

oh god. I feel sorry for this replacement

[xRECKONERx]

dwlee99 replaces Extrapolated Eagle (who is now blacklisted).

[TheTrollie]

dwlee99 replaces Extrapolated Eagle (who is now blacklisted).

welcome to the party. Before you even catch up you need to explain how its possible I was blocked last night.

[Venmar]

I feel like that's impossible to answer without catching up?

[TheTrollie]

well yeah....i guess unless hes just gonna say "im scum" it is impossible lol

[TheLoneWolf]

Oooh a new development

Now we might get somewhere today

[TheLoneWolf]

Venmar
TheTrollie
Extrapolated Eagle
TheLoneWolf
Keyser Söze (1): TheLoneWolf

Not Voting: Venmar, TheTrollie, Extrapolated Eagle, Keyser Söze

3 to lynch.
Deadline is (expired on 2016-03-31 12:00:00)

3 days tho

[TheLoneWolf]

1) There is a Map to Luke Skywalker out there that every person is trying to get their hands on.
2) The Map will begin in the hands of a predetermined player.
3) Every role in the game has a special ability or modifier that activates if they have the Map.
4) If you have the Map, you must pass it to another player at night.
5) If a person is killed while they have the Map, the Map will pass to their killer.
6) If the Map holder is lynched, the person who cast the hammer vote will receive the Map and must pass it that night.

So Map resolves before killing and scum have it now I'm guessing

great

[TheLoneWolf]

Do we have a map of the map movement this game?

[TheTrollie]

1) There is a Map to Luke Skywalker out there that every person is trying to get their hands on.
2) The Map will begin in the hands of a predetermined player.
3) Every role in the game has a special ability or modifier that activates if they have the Map.
4) If you have the Map, you must pass it to another player at night.
5) If a person is killed while they have the Map, the Map will pass to their killer.
6) If the Map holder is lynched, the person who cast the hammer vote will receive the Map and must pass it that night.

So Map resolves before killing and scum have it now I'm guessing

great

You're statement and conclusion do not line up

[Dwlee99]

hey guys, haven't read tell me if I should but I'd rather just chill and talk to peeps instead.

[xRECKONERx]

Considering extending deadline by three days for the replacement. If there are any objections to this, please PM me.

[TheTrollie]

hey guys, haven't read tell me if I should but I'd rather just chill and talk to peeps instead.

Well, you kinda do have to read at least today.
Here's a catchup:

Spoiler: yesterday we popcorned and here's all the claims

Popcorning was a great idea. so we have:

Trollie:

Rey, Cop (Investigated Camn N1 & N2)

Snarky:

C3P0: Hated Townie

TheLoneWolf:

Poe Dameron, Neighbor

Gorkington:

Chewbacca, 1-shot vig (Shot Camn N2)

Extrapolated Eagle:

Unkarr Plutt, Roleblocker (Ami N1, Camn N2)

Venmar:

Lt. Connix, N0 Census Taker

Keyser:

BB-8, 3-shot Watcher (Camn->RC N1; No-One->Venmar N2)

D4 note: edited from original form, i accidentally wrote this backwards yesterday

take-aways

(1) Keyser's watcher claim:
What happened when Camn visited RC N1?
a) shot - possibility only if Tails protected RC N1 & Scum has a factional kill + (because RC tracked Aero to tails)

b)

Roleblock

could not have been because RC got a result on Aero (unless had map and modifier was strong willed)

c) Something else - most likley just cannot think of what it would be.

d) Key is lying

(2) Investigative craziness:
a) Trollie - cop
b) RC - Tracker
c) Key - Watcher
Weakened by TAILS - miller doctor, really only weakness - this seems too powerful which makes me worried about

key

(3) Eagle's RB:
IF Scum team was JUST Camn & Aero, then Eagle's block on Camn last night means that:

N1

AERO shoots TAILS
SK shoots AMIHAN

N2

CAMN gets RBd and cannot kill
GORK shoots CAMN
SK shoots RADIANT COWBELLS

explaining why there are 2 deaths N2, even if there is an SK (3 shots)
SK definitely wants RC-tracker dead, CAMN would want either RC or myself dead, probably more likely me since RC seemed to not buy my claim.

Alternatively, there is a 3rd mafia player who performed the factional kill last night, and/or CAMN/AERO was a Mafia 1-Shot Vig - just saying both are possibilities.

What do you think of now popcorning Map mechanics?

I am 50/50. Reck said Scum get fake PMs so they def have fake map mechanics (also meaning Wolf isn't totally in the clear fyi), but might be helpful, and not sure honestly that scum will benefit much from knowing this now???

Today we popcorned night actions
Key claimed to watch venmar again
Eagle claimed to roleblock LoneWolf

I was an idiot rusty MS player who didn't think I had anything important but then I realized

Spoiler: I was blocked last night

oh btw reason is i was roleblocked last night

i.e. i got "no result" and just assumed that meant my investigation of Eagle was that he wasn't Snoke or Kylo

Spoiler: There is no town motivation to block me, which means if Eagle targeted me, he had to fakeclaim someone else as target

Eagle could not have claimed to have roleblocked me if he did. There is no town motivation for roleblocking the the claimed/confirmed cop.

Spoiler: Conclusion is that with high probability, Eagle/you are scum

As far as I see it, there are 3 possible explanations

(a) Eagle is lying, he is a scum roleblocker, and he targeted me (wish I realized this earlier, would have made Eagle claim first)

(b) Eagle is lying, he has a role modifier which would mess with my investigation (because I targeted eagle-so like reflexive roleblocker)

(c) Someone else is lying, they are a scum roleblock/jailkeeper (

what other roles could prevent a cop investigation from going through?

)

If C is true, then A is probably true too though since I think a scum and town roleblocking role is strange.

If C or A, there is likely with 1 more member of the mafia team. I dont see a 3rd party blocking me.

So I think the conclusion is that we lynch Eagle today. The probability that eagle is town with these results is slim to none

we have been waiting for Eagle to comment....

So take your time catching up. But honestly before Eagle disappeared I was giving him the chance to offer up a good explanation for what might have gone down last night that does not implicate him as scum.

[Dwlee99]

ok, I'll try to read when I can but I didn't get a list of my night actions so idk

[TheTrollie]

dwlee99, did you read my most recent post in full already?

[Dwlee99]

I skimmed it a little bit. Turns out romeo and juliet is taking longer than I thought to figure out quotes and stuff for so Ill try to read the game tomorrow. Sorry

[TheTrollie]

romeo oh romeo wherefore art though seeking quotations from romeo

[TheTrollie]

i was fake v/la last week (ended up actually getting on here)

this week im really v/la

deadlines up the wazoo

[Dwlee99]

Okay I am going to catch up today!