Mini 1776: Evolution Mafia (Game Over)

[Flubbernugget]

I can see Firebringer doing that as a gambit to force the day to a no lynch (though for other reasons I do still think this slot is town)

Have you seen Firebringer do gambits like that before?
What reasons do you have for townreading Hellhound?
Why the Cakez Vote? I mean, aside from his current lane push.

I don't recall seeing firebringer as scum honestly. His trolling style makes a play like that fit his town meta very well though.

When anti is scum he has a very distinct non-confrontational meta to him. I'm not seeing that here. I was suspicious of Firebringer coaching anti, but the current dissonance plus anti's very dynamic means of having conversation with people makes that very unlikely.

[Flubbernugget]

VOTE: cakez

I'm still torn on eap. Their pushes have a microfixation to them that I expect from varsoon. D1 was bad but I agree with them now that the unvote from hellhound was scummy. I can see Firebringer doing that as a gambit to force the day to a no lynch (though for other reasons I do still think this slot is town)

I can't predict what Scum!Fire would do in that situation. Cause to be honest, I am kinda random as scum. Or try to be at least. But I imagine I wouldn't do that, though I wouldn't want to push Shiro to begin with either likely.

-Fire

You say you play random as scum but don't sell me on the idea that a deadline unvote like that doesn't fit a random or erratic play

[SirCakez]

VOTE: lane

VOTE: lane

And the reasons for these are...?

I've played scum with lane once and read him correctly every time since. It's not that difficult. He looks town, like he does in every game that he's town.

VOTE: Cakez

@hiplop: where are you on flubber?

I quoted it twice....

[SirCakez]

He had reservations on the wagon and then didn't

You had reservations on my wagon and then didn't

Oh the RVS wagon thing. How is that comparable to an end-day wagon at all?

[Persivul]

These two posts. It's like, "hey I know Shiro is going to flip town but don't want to be involved, lynch her anyway!"

Not getting involved is not getting involved. Taunting people with sarcasm is indeed getting involved.

And then follow up with, "maybe I should hammer someone I'm not feeling anyway?"

If you think a lynch is bad but inevitable, the mutation mechanic makes it tempting to get on.

[Flubbernugget]

He had reservations on the wagon and then didn't

You had reservations on my wagon and then didn't

Oh the RVS wagon thing. How is that comparable to an end-day wagon at all?

I dunno

Maybe the fact that they're both wagons

But as persuvial showed,

There was more reason for Lane to flip flop than you, but you still chose to be dense about the question.

[hiplop]

I really dislike flubber, unsure if hes scum. Ignoring the slot.
Lane feels HARDCORE different than my town games with him. Explain persy?

[Persivul]

Lane is posting regularly, looking at different people, giving both town and scum reads, having fun and it all feels natural - i.e. what I expect from him as town.

When we played scum together he described his scum game as

I lurk for awhile, then replace out

, and that's what he did in that game. Not so in this one.

What differences do you see?

[Specter Deflectors]

Hi it's EP

I think recent posting from Flubber makes him seem more town and the meta case from Persi seems like it comes from a town perspective.
Cakez might also be town, Hellhound is town.

I'll wait for max to finish the catchup before I place a vote, I'm not confident enough with anything so a second opinion will help

[Heat]

K so im doing a quick reread of D1 and SC pings me on a couple of things

Fire is really hard for me to read since he jokes around so much so deferring the control of the hydra to him feels like a scum move to me.

its a move to preserve my sanity

the absolute ONLY reason im not subbing out right now is bc ive been saying i would hydra w fire for a while and ive wanted to do it so im doing it.

also ive been incredibly transparent w my thought process re: the reads ive talked about so far. apricity could follow it but for some reason everyone else is playing dumb and varsoons just talking out his ass

This feels pretty legit tbh

Let me try going somewhere else

Antimutagen: Apricity

You're much more quiet then when I played with you last time. What are you thinking right now?

You go after apricity more for activity than anything else. fine

@Cakez: I'm rather swamped with hw right now esp. since AP/IB exam season is getting close, so I can't post as much as I'd like. Where do you stand as far as reads go?

I don't really like how Shiro admitted that she sounded scummy in 272. Hellhound is still town to me; I'm not getting why people scumread him. The overreacting doesn't seem out of place with frustrated town.

UNVOTE:
Will be back after homework.

I can understand this actually, I've been there before.
I don't have many super solid reads which is why I'm trying to sort you. Hellhound is leaning town now because their reactions feel genuine. Still scumreading Flubber. I believe Ice's miller claim and am thus townreading him. Other then that, not much.
The Shiro case is one is skimmed over, I have to review her.

I like your post here though so next person is

Antimutagen: lane0168

You've been quite quiet. What's on your mind?

But you don't ever follow up with apricity, and then go and AM lane. what happened to the apricity thing?

Waitwaitwait
I forgot Shiro was in the game. What the hell, Shiro you're usually a lot more active then this.

Again, you only ever point out Shiro being more lurky than usual, but never follow up. You aren't really scumhunting here, just pointing out when ppl aren't being active. You aren't pressing anyone.

[Heat]

VOTE: Hiplop
His posts on the last two pages are pretty bad. Asking already answered questions, shooting down vote analysis, fluffing, etc

...So instead of doing anything with your other three ppl, you go onto hiplop? what gives? At this point you're just pointing fingers at a bunch of ppl.

[Heat]

VOTE: SirCakez

[SirCakez]

Yea Heat the AM votes helped me sort those two. I sorted Apricity into town, because her response to my AM vote was quite good, and Lane into scum. Hiplop is still a scumread which is why I AMed him.

[SirCakez]

These two posts. It's like, "hey I know Shiro is going to flip town but don't want to be involved, lynch her anyway!"

Not getting involved is not getting involved. Taunting people with sarcasm is indeed getting involved.

And then follow up with, "maybe I should hammer someone I'm not feeling anyway?"

If you think a lynch is bad but inevitable, the mutation mechanic makes it tempting to get on.

How is taunting with sarcasm = actually engaging with those wagoning?
Mutation mechanic part is understandable but he made no mention of that.

[SirCakez]

He had reservations on the wagon and then didn't

You had reservations on my wagon and then didn't

Oh the RVS wagon thing. How is that comparable to an end-day wagon at all?

I dunno

Maybe the fact that they're both wagons

But as persuvial showed,

There was more reason for Lane to flip flop than you, but you still chose to be dense about the question.

What reasons for him to flip flop?

[lane0168]

Although, being on the wagon makes me unkillable... Maybe I should hammer

Sircakez, I made no mention of the mutation?? What the hell do you think I meant by being in the wagon makes me unkillable???

[SirCakez]

I didn't know that was referring to the mutation, oops.

[Apricity]

Here now, was V/LA for college visiting. And apparently I'm also visiting Duke tomorrow, so there's that. Reading now

[Apricity]

VOTE: sircakez

Why did you vote him before he explained anything? How did you feel about him prior to his vote on you?

[Apricity]

VOTE: lane

That being said I don't get this either so hopefully it's explained further along.

[Apricity]

I'm having trouble sorting a few people which is getting really annoying. Will reread for EAP, Lane, and Cakez.

Also, someone should have gotten something from me.

[wgeurts]

"Extinction is the rule. Survival is the exception."

-Carl Sagan

VOTECOUNT 2.1

SirCakez (4):

lane0168, Flubbernugget, Persivul, Heat

lane0168 (2):

SirCakez, hiplop

Hellhound (2):

Edgar Allan Pro, Zakk

Edgar Allan Pro (1):

Hellhound

Not Voting (2):

Specter Deflectors, Apricity

Spoiler: Antimutagen

With 11 Votes, it takes 6 to Lynch.
Deadline

: (expired on 2016-04-01 18:02:14)

Antimutagen: Nobody

[lane0168]

VOTE: sircakez

Why did you vote him before he explained anything? How did you feel about him prior to his vote on you?

Same as I felt yesterday when I was voting him all day

[Hellhound]

Hey guys, why aren't we lynching Edgar Allan Pro?
Come on....

DO IT!!!

Also:

Antimutagen: Hiplop

[Edgar Allan Pro]

No.
VOTE: AM: Hellhound
Just in case you guys lynch someone else while I'm out.