Mini Normal 1775 END!

[Sakura Hana]

@texcat: thanks for saying exactly what i had already said (Well more or less)
Nevertheless
VOTE: Madonna
Fine with either Lowell or Madonna dying, but now my vote makes Madonna the larger wagon.

[Almost50]

Fine. Madonna it is then.

VOTE: Madonna <<< L-1

CLAIM!

P.S. Well done, scum team. *Thumbs Up*

[chilledtea]

INTENT TO HAMMER. Madonna claim now.

[mhsmith0]

Can you define your I ended time frame? "Now" as in 24 hours? 2 hours? Something else?

[chilledtea]

That's a good question. Let me think about it.

[chilledtea]

I will give her around 12 hours I guess. Let us give her 12 hours after which hammering is fine.

[mhsmith0]

12 hours works for me. I'd like other members of his board to give thoughts before hammer. Most notably sayaka; I'm not scum reading her for limited availability but really want to know what she thinks, including if she's still town reading Lowell, BEFORE we see flips.

Spoiler: Current Reads

Expedience
Really see him as town. Everything Im seeing feels genuine, and he's scum hunting.


Garm
Basically same as exp
Ps wrt I think "But obviously "Nuh uh" isn't likely to convince you" was where I made it clear I was talking about me. May have been weirdly phrased though.


knightmare
Reading town. Aggressive, comfortable. I suppose some defensiveness MIGHT be meaningful, but if that's the best argument against him as town, there's little argument. I suppose given the combination of scum hunting and defensiveness I could engage with the possibility of him as being an sk if there's any reason to think we have one, but I'm not interested in discussing that in any depth on d1.


Sakura Hana
Really seems town. One possible exception is if there are two scum teams and she's just hunting the other scum team (possibly along with a50 buddy?). Not something I'm interested in exploring at this time but wanted that possibility on record. Something in my gut feels slightly off... But it's likelier nothing.


Goodlordwill
Haven't see enough to sort yet. Nothing feels off in ISO... But There's not much there yet.


Almost50
I don't know what I think about him. I liked his explanations, and it all made sense. I suppose I probably SHOULD be town reading him... But I dunno. His gambits seem to make sense, and there's town explanations for it all... But I feel like this could be just quality scum play as well.


Sayaka Maizono
Null. Haven't really seen enough to have an opinion. Really want to see her thoughts before end of d1.


texcat
I get the suspicion on this slot. Plausible team mate of Lowell and/or Madonna. Her a50 vote was under developed. I have no idea why voting knights accuser to l-2 after clearing knight is any kind of specific scum tell. It's possible, though, that she's town with a REALLY strong feeling about moving between wagons as a major scum tell.


Boonskiies
Alignment: boonskiies. Seriously, I'm having trouble reading this slot. I can't tell if he's playing up the "I am boon" behavior or not. Seems eager to call Lowell and Madonna differing alignments, never really said why he thinks Lowell is town... Just that he didn't like the wagon. Not a priority to sort on d1.


chilledtea
Shameless vote hopping for weak reasons. He's not at the very top of my list but he seems scummy to me.


Madonna
I have no clue what she was up to wrt the Lowell wagon if she was town. Even if scum play that was just BAD. The overtly suicidal nature of her posts makes me a bit nervous that it's just too easy, but again, what could the town motivation possibly be?


Lowell
screams scum to me for reasons enumerated repeatedly.

[Boonskiies]

Holy fuck. Texcat's scummy as fuck.

That whole last page. We lynch him tomorrow.

[Boonskiies]

His reasoning for the Lowell stuff and my hammering after I had proved I wasn't going to hammer him.

[Boonskiies]

I really do not like Madonna's putting Lowell at L-1 and now claiming that she did it just to call a bluff. Especially when we've been warned that Boon has a hammer that's as quick as Ika's. I can't imagine that Madonna and Lowell could possibly be teammates as ChilledTea thinks, but I do think that one of them is likely scum.

Pedit: Exp??

Like this, holy fuck.

[Boonskiies]

@madonna: is it your opinion that the wagon was a serious attempt to end d1 quickly?

This is a weird question and so is every instance where players in this game talk about serious votes. This is for everyone:

every vote, even in RVS, should be counted as a serious vote,

because you should absolutely always vote how you are feeling. If a player is voting someone, the voter is saying, "I want this person lynched," not, "No feelings or beliefs behind this." I can accept votes that okay a lynch on a lukewarm read, but only if we are nearing deadline and the voter does not have a better, stronger read on someone else. No one should be saying that their vote is not serious, and if they are, maybe consider voting them to help make them realize what a vote means.

I do not think a wagon on knightmare was an attempt to end the day early. I think it was something which could lead to ending the day, but if the mafia were on a mislynch, it was for the sake of a mislynch, not a day ending move.

VOTE: Madonna

I agree that every vote counts, especially L-1 votes. This seems to go against her claim that her vote was a bluff.

Ah fuck. I'm having doubts.

[Boonskiies]

Off my lunch, I'm rereading after I'm off in a few hours

[Sayaka Maizono]

I'll be V/LA until Monday

I am not caught up since my last post and I see Madonna is at L-1? If for whatever reason you all decide to end day before I come back I will catch up overnight.

NOTED

[Garmr]

Still prefer lowell lynch to a madonna lynch but oh well.

[Expedience]

I'll be V/LA until Monday

I am not caught up since my last post and I see Madonna is at L-1? If for whatever reason you all decide to end day before I come back I will catch up overnight.

NOTED

I think we should not end the day before Sayaka returns.

Also "you all", mmm.

[Expedience]

Still prefer lowell lynch to a madonna lynch but oh well.

Just because of ego or is there more to this? You've mentioned this multiple times but seem reasonably convinced that both are scum.

[Garmr]

Still prefer lowell lynch to a madonna lynch but oh well.

Just because of ego or is there more to this? You've mentioned this multiple times but seem reasonably convinced that both are scum.

Probably influenced by last game as well,ego and tbh I feel a little more confident on lowell.

[mhsmith0]

...
I think we should not end the day before Sayaka returns.

Also "you all", mmm.

Do you think there's substantial value to getting specific feedback on this issue from her? Are you meaningfully scum reading her, or is this just "let's slow it down and get more info, guys"?

I don't love giving her a pass on commenting on Madonna or Lowell, but I'm not sure that letting the game sit stagnant for another couple of days is healthy either.

[FA_Q2]

VoteCount 1.5

With 13 players alive, it takes

7

votes to lynch.

Sayaka Maizono (0):

Almost50 (0):

Sakura Hana (0):

Lowell (3):

Garmr, knightmare, chilledtea

mhsmith0 (0):

texcat (1):

Lowell

Garmr (0):

Boonskiies (0):

Madonna (6):

Expedience, Boonskiies, Goodlordwill, texcat, Sakura Hana, Almost50

(L-1)

Goodlordwill (0):

knightmare (1):

Sayaka Maizono

chilledtea (0):

Expedience (0):

Not Voting (2):

mhsmith0, Madonna

The deadline is in

(expired on 2016-03-30 06:00:00)

NOTES:
Sayaka Maizono on V/LA untill Monday, Mar 21
Seeking a replacement for knightmare

[mhsmith0]

I'm tempted to say screw it and hammer, my #2 scum read but CT has declared the honor effective soon. I'll see where things stand in another 12 hours. Given madonnas apparent choice to not show up and defend or declare a pr, if I don't see anything from her in another 12 hours I'm going to consider that a confession.

That's said, if anyone wants to make a case for why it's important to wait and see what the whole board thinks, then I'm open to listening on that front (presuming ct doesn't just hammer first anyway).

[chilledtea]

I intend to hammer in the next hour, unless people can convince me otherwise.

[chilledtea]

It has been 17 hours since she posted in here. The 12 hour period is over. Here goes nothing.

VOTE: Madonna

[Madonna]

It is Saturday, midnight.

[FA_Q2]

A lynch has been reached!

Day one ends with Madonna being lynched!

Day one end!

Madonna (7):

Expedience, Boonskiies, Goodlordwill, texcat, Sakura Hana, Almost50, chilledtea

LYNCH!!

Lowell (2):

Garmr, ToastyToast

ToastyToast (1):

Sayaka Maizono

texcat (1):

Lowell

Sayaka Maizono (0):

Almost50 (0):

Sakura Hana (0):

mhsmith0 (0):

Garmr (0):

Boonskiies (0):

Goodlordwill (0):

chilledtea (0):

Expedience (0):

Not Voting (2):

mhsmith0, Madonna

Madonna's Role PM

Welcome! You are a

Town

Universal Backup.

Abilities
You have your voice and your vote. Use them well.

You are the Town Universal Backup. When the first

Town

PR role dies, you will inherent that

Town

PR’s role and may use abilities that role has remaining. You will not be told of any actions the previous owner of that role may or may not have taken.

Win Condition
You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated.

Here is the game thread. Please confirm via PM with your role name and in thread by posting /confirm.

[FA_Q2]

Night 1 begins now. Please submit your night actions if you have any to me via PM no later than the following deadline:

(expired on 2016-03-22 10:00:00)

NOTES:
ToastyToast replaces knightmare effective immediately.
Sayaka Maizono on V/LA untill Monday, Mar 21