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[Boonskiies]

I don't think your reasoning is bad or anything. Just noting behavior.

VOTE: texcat

@mhs - I posted when he was at L-1. I would have done it, no second thoughts. I posted my hammer line I say with every hammer I do too. "Did someone say L-1?" That is the post I always hammer with. And I didn't.

[Boonskiies]

@exp - fair enough. We definitely aren't N-Sync.

[knightmare]

Give Lowell a chance to claim at least. I think we can wait some time to let Sayana and some of the other players who can't post as often to weigh in. Garmr/Expedience are back so I would like their thoughts.

I'm still very sketched out by Madonna who is suddenly willing to let Lowell take the drop after defending him as strongly as they did. But not enough that I would reconsider Lowell yet. I can't clear him on his play alone (in fact I think he's pretty scummy for it) but Madonna is the next one in my sights.

[Almost50]

As I said earlier I would entertain wagoning Madonna or Texcat as well.

Neither of them is a good lynch I'm afraid. Madonna is still null to me, and Texcat is jumping between null & slight town atm.

Elsewhere, my read are basically the same, except for smith who has worked his way up to fairly town due to what appears to be genuine scum hunting with some plausible effort and w/o fear.

[Garmr]

So basically Boon hammers more often than Ika?

Ika is a forbidden name shhh. But jokes aside he got permanent banned for real life stuff that i'm not to sure about.

[Garmr]

Give Lowell a chance to claim at least. I think we can wait some time to let Sayana and some of the other players who can't post as often to weigh in. Garmr/Expedience are back so I would like their thoughts.

I'm still very sketched out by Madonna who is suddenly willing to let Lowell take the drop after defending him as strongly as they did. But not enough that I would reconsider Lowell yet. I can't clear him on his play alone (in fact I think he's pretty scummy for it) but Madonna is the next one in my sights.

Sure what would you like my thoughts on through?

[mhsmith0]

I don't think your reasoning is bad or anything. Just noting behavior.

VOTE: texcat

@mhs - I posted when he was at L-1. I would have done it, no second thoughts. I posted my hammer line I say with every hammer I do too. "Did someone say L-1?" That is the post I always hammer with. And I didn't.

Hmm, fair enough. Then again I've never played with any of you. So I'm ok for now holding it as an explicit intent to vote/hammer.

And to clarify: I WILL revote Lowell unless persuaded otherwise, likely in about 24 hours. Even if it's a hammer. Even if Lowell decides he has better things to do than defend himself. Official warning given.

[Madonna]

So, cold feet. Disappointing.

VOTE: Lowell

[Almost50]

Goodlordwill and I are both town.

Good to know. I'm having a hard time sorting you out tbh.

[mhsmith0]

Says the person who could have hammered but chose not to

[knightmare]

As I said earlier I would entertain wagoning Madonna or Texcat as well.

Neither of them is a good lynch I'm afraid. Madonna is still null to me, and Texcat is jumping between null & slight town atm.

Elsewhere, my read are basically the same, except for smith who has worked his way up to fairly town due to what appears to be genuine scum hunting with some plausible effort and w/o fear.

I think there's a very good chance Madonna is scum, actually. They had no business fighting Lowell's arguments for him like they did because I simply don't believe they could've been town reading him that strongly to do so, if they are town. I also find it sketchy on Lowell's end that he didn't call out this behavior - if he were town.

There's a good bit of scum equity between the two imo.

I agree with you about Smith though. He has come on strong today and he is one of my stronger reads atp

[mhsmith0]

INTENT TO HAMMER LOWELL. YOU HAVE NO MORE THAN 24 HOURS TO REVEAL/DEFEND YOURSELF. OFFICIAL WARNING.

[knightmare]

@Garmr - just general stuff about the game. The stuff that happened today, etc.

[Boonskiies]

@knight - do you think Madonna is busing then?

[Boonskiies]

Also this is horrible. I hate not hammering. Must...resist...temptation...

[mhsmith0]

I think it's plausible. Getting in on the lynch because she doesn't want to be outside it. Pretty blatant if so. Then again WIFOM.

[knightmare]

@knight - do you think Madonna is busing then?

Considering their switch from fighting me about how his posts weren't bad to suddenly being willing to hammer - I think it's not a hard conclusion to draw. Lowell gave me a pretty weak read on Madonna as well that I had to really press him for.

So yeah, I think there's a good chance.

[Boonskiies]

Alright. I like that reasoning. If Lowell flips town, is Madonna still scum for you?

[mhsmith0]

@boon: 24 hours. Not long to wait. And you know I'm up for it anyway. But I want to see what Lowell has to say for himself, and we have some people who have yet to much weigh in on his case that we need to hear from before it goes final. No need to quick hammer.

[Madonna]

Also this is horrible. I hate not hammering. Must...resist...temptation...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5i-sbh7UCw

[Almost50]

@exp: Very well, I'm willing to go along.

UNVOTE: lowell.

Bad TOWN move, IMHO.

Town: Because the motivation is clearly town behind the unvote.

Bad: Because you would want to see who might hammer without stating intent and/or giving Lowell proper time to claim.

IMHO: This is not a universally accepted principle. It's just MY way of playing/perceiving the game. Others may disagree and it's all fine by me.

[Boonskiies]

I'm not going to hammer. I don't think Lowell is scum.

Texcat/Madonna and then one of almost/Sakura/Chilled is scum.

[knightmare]

Alright. I like that reasoning. If Lowell flips town, is Madonna still scum for you?

Like I said already, the next one in my sights.

Lowell is scummy on his own and needs to be resolved.

Madonna is scummy for how they handled Lowell, period.

[Boonskiies]

Expidence's take looks much more like busing than Madonna's did, hypothetically, anyways, so I don't understand that.

[Boonskiies]

Alright. I like that reasoning. If Lowell flips town, is Madonna still scum for you?

Like I said already, the next one in my sights.

Lowell is scummy on his own and needs to be resolved.

Madonna is scummy for how they handled Lowell, period.

Alright. Why not just lynch Madonna today if he is to be resolved period? Why is Lowell the priority? Because it's the bigger wagon? We clearly can change it. Plenty of time.