Mini 1772 ~ Game Over

chilledtea · Post Post #775 (ISO) » Tue Mar 15, 2016 10:18 am

In post 773, BlueTrin wrote:
In post 732, chilledtea wrote:
In post 730, Postie wrote:Okay, I'm liking Creature/Not_Mafia for scum.

VOTE: Not_Mafia

Here's my lame attempt at counterwagoning. Hopefully someone on the pista wagon can join me on this before NM gets in here and hammers to save his own skin.
If this slot flips scum, I can at least throw GWS into my townpile because of 82. I don't think Creature would have been so quick to jump in and defend Gale if they were buddies.

Considering Not_Mafia just replaced in, there is 0 chance of him realistically getting lynched. The creature slot got a boost because of replacement.

Chilledtea, I don't understand why a replacement is a boost.
Being replaced does not mean the replacement starts with a clean slate.

If you are accused of murder, you cannot say, to defend yourself: "I didn't kill anyone this morning therefore I am innocent ?"

I am not saying that a replacement mean that the slot is scummy but you should not discard previous comments ? Or is there some meta on Mafia Scum that I am not aware about ?

Well, I agree with the logic. Problem is that the lynch just won't happen. Unless it was day 4 or something where you are very sure of the slot, lynching a slot where replacement has occurred is kinda difficult. I mean if creature is town, then what? Creature never said much throughout the day.
I still think that creature slot is scum. But I also think the same for pista and guy. We now have 2 days to complete the lynch. If pista comes here and gives a suitable defence, then we can move to a different slot but that's all we can do.

BlueTrin · Post Post #776 (ISO) » Tue Mar 15, 2016 10:29 am

Let's hear from Pista then.

Lowell · Post Post #777 (ISO) » Tue Mar 15, 2016 11:49 am

chilled is exactly right about this, as unsavory as it is. Hence the townpoints for having the gall to point it out.

Aquanim · Post Post #778 (ISO) » Tue Mar 15, 2016 1:12 pm

Votecount 1.13

pistachi0n (6) -

Gale Wing Srock, chilledtea, Frozen Angel, Almost50, Dierfire, Lowell

(L-1)

lovelygiant (2) -

Not_Mafia, GuyFawkes

Not_Mafia (4) -

Antihero, lovelygiant, BlueTrin, Postie

Gale Wing Srock (1) -

pistachi0n

Not Voting (0) -

With 13 players remaining, 7 votes are required to lynch.
Day 1 deadline - (expired on 2016-03-18 10:00:00)

Notes - Please double-check your vote in this VC in particular, I may have made a mistake

Spoiler: Full VC

pistachi0n · Post Post #779 (ISO) » Tue Mar 15, 2016 2:20 pm

I'm vanilla town, vote gale when I flip.

Antihero · Post Post #780 (ISO) » Tue Mar 15, 2016 2:22 pm

/all the shrugs

VOTE: pistachi0n

Gale Wing Srock · Post Post #781 (ISO) » Tue Mar 15, 2016 3:41 pm

If LovelyGiant is not scum, then Anti could be Lowell's partner.
He is showing the same bussing behavior wrt Pista's lynch as Lowell:

In post 744, Antihero wrote:pistach is a craps shoot.

In post 766, Antihero wrote:
the gale case isn't great b/c it just follows the usual format of "look at x that i'm linking to SCUMZORZ"

i really dont have that much optimism for a pistach lynch actually flipping scum

but hey maybe i just completely missed the scumminess and the dice land on 7. it's happened before.

(that's a good thing in craps, right?)

(.... i've never played craps before so i have no idea why i chose that reference....)

In post 780, Antihero wrote:/all the shrugs

VOTE: pistachi0n

Aquanim · Post Post #782 (ISO) » Tue Mar 15, 2016 4:03 pm

Votecount 1.14

pistachi0n (7) -

Gale Wing Srock, chilledtea, Frozen Angel, Almost50, Dierfire, Lowell, Antihero

(MAJORITY)

Not_Mafia (3) -

lovelygiant, BlueTrin, Postie

lovelygiant (2) -

Not_Mafia, GuyFawkes

Gale Wing Srock (1) -

pistachi0n

Not Voting (0) -

With 13 players remaining, 7 votes are required to lynch.
Day 1 deadline - (expired on 2016-03-18 10:00:00)

A majority has been reached. Day will end when I have double-checked all votes.

Spoiler: Full VC

Aquanim · Post Post #783 (ISO) » Tue Mar 15, 2016 4:17 pm

Night One

pistachi0n the

Vanilla Townie

has been lynched.

Night One will end in (expired on 2016-03-18 15:00:00)

Please submit any night actions to me via PM before the deadline.

Aquanim · Post Post #784 (ISO) » Thu Mar 17, 2016 5:00 pm

Night 1 deadline has been reached. Daypost coming shortly.

Aquanim · Post Post #785 (ISO) » Thu Mar 17, 2016 5:02 pm

Day Two

Almost50 the

Vanilla Townie

has been killed.

Votecount 2.00

Not Voting (11) -

Dierfire, Gale Wing Srock, Lowell, BlueTrin, GuyFawkes, chilledtea, Frozen Angel, Postie, Not_Mafia, lovelygiant, Antihero

With 11 players alive, 6 votes are required to lynch.
Day 2 deadline - (expired on 2016-03-30 15:00:00)

Notes -

Antihero · Post Post #786 (ISO) » Thu Mar 17, 2016 5:13 pm

In post 781, Gale Wing Srock wrote:If LovelyGiant is not scum, then Anti could be Lowell's partner.
He is showing the same bussing behavior wrt Pista's lynch as Lowell:

hi gale

ok... don't take this the wrong way

but most of your points and cases have been crap

i'm not saying it to be mean. i'm not even really saying it a judgmental way. i'm not discrediting. i'm speaking as matter-of-factly as i can when i say that your model for what you apparently think is scummy is just not good because you're not doing the step of "these actions that i'm pointing out are scummy because [BOOM REASONS]"

i still haven't COMPLETELY eliminated the possibility that you're scum and it's all on purpose, but i think you're more than likely town here.

so... i don't know, instead of getting mad at me and calling me scum in retaliation maybe think through what you say.

Antihero · Post Post #787 (ISO) » Thu Mar 17, 2016 5:27 pm

i'm operating off the assumption that almost50 is a vig kill b/c there's no way scum would shoot almost50 before fa.

Antihero · Post Post #788 (ISO) » Thu Mar 17, 2016 5:28 pm

and i'm still good w/ voting nm.

VOTE: not_mafia

chilledtea · Post Post #789 (ISO) » Thu Mar 17, 2016 8:37 pm

VOTE: not_mafia

Please lynch this obvscum.

Gale Wing Srock · Post Post #790 (ISO) » Thu Mar 17, 2016 8:50 pm

Idk Anti, this method has worked for me before and I don't know how else to approach the game. Imo Pista was scummy, but maybe her mislynch could have been avoided. Her reactions were meh though :/

But I take responsibility for her mislynch, and probably I was lulled into pursuing her wagon. I did consider not posting the case on her yesterday, but at that point I believed that her lynch was the safest bet for us because she did avoid mentioning the LovelyGiant wagon and called the Creature wagon as terrible. *sigh*

Anyways, I reread parts of the game and I noticed that you had infact mentioned the intent to hammer. Still not liking some of your posts around Lowell and LovelyGiant though.

Regarding Not_Mafia, I would like to see his catch up of Day 1 before supporting the wagon, and still think that LovelyGiant is a good lynch, especially because it clears certain connections in the game.

And almost50 was a town lean for me, so idk why the vig would kill him over other players.

Frozen Angel · Post Post #791 (ISO) » Thu Mar 17, 2016 9:03 pm

postie visited Almost50

I did my job

VOTE: postie

Frozen Angel · Post Post #792 (ISO) » Thu Mar 17, 2016 9:03 pm

Gale Wing Srock · Post Post #793 (ISO) » Thu Mar 17, 2016 9:04 pm

In post 554, GuyFawkes wrote:VOTE: FA

if she wants to be lynched I think we should oblige her

In post 561, GuyFawkes wrote:
In post 560, Postie wrote:Which should make it NIA, no? I mean I've seen her AtE a boatload as scum but this is completely different.
It looks pretty clear to me that she gives no fucks about her own survival.

and that can't be faked?

And this troubled me yesterday. I was under the impression that FA would be killed, and that my initial theory on the trio would have been reassured. But idk, definitely seems weird to me.

Btw

GuyFawkes

, could you share your reads list with us?

PEdit: Sweet!

VOTE: Postie

Frozen Angel · Post Post #794 (ISO) » Thu Mar 17, 2016 9:06 pm

THAT'S HOW ACCURATE ARE MY READS

and gambles!

I love u 2 postie

Not_Mafia · Post Post #795 (ISO) » Thu Mar 17, 2016 9:20 pm

VOTE: Postie

Postie · Post Post #796 (ISO) » Fri Mar 18, 2016 2:07 am

I DIDN'T GO ANYWHERE LAST NIGHT
FFS I'M THE DOCTOR

Postie · Post Post #797 (ISO) » Fri Mar 18, 2016 2:08 am

*TO ALMOST50

Postie · Post Post #798 (ISO) » Fri Mar 18, 2016 2:12 am

I protected Antihero.

Postie · Post Post #799 (ISO) » Fri Mar 18, 2016 2:18 am

In post 796, Postie wrote:I DIDN'T GO ANYWHERE LAST NIGHT
FFS I'M THE DOCTOR

And yeah, I realise I fucked up quite badly in how I worded this and it sounds like some kind of hilarious scumslip.

Please just speedlynch FA after this.