Mini 1776: Evolution Mafia (Game Over)

ISO · Post Post #250 (ISO) » Thu Mar 17, 2016 1:48 am

Yes Persivul's one post convinced me to make a vote switch. I liked his reasoning and decided to follow it. Someone (I think Flubber) called it rash? No it was not rash. Persivul made a good point.

ISO · Post Post #251 (ISO) » Thu Mar 17, 2016 2:02 am

Antimutagen: Hellhound

Their interactions with Specter Deflecters and the way they danced around my wagon felt really icky to me. Flubber has been scummier though so just an AM for Hellhound for now.

Hellhound · Post Post #252 (ISO) » Thu Mar 17, 2016 2:08 am

Obviously you guys all think Antihero is scum, and thats okay. I think he is kinda scumy too. But guys...

Its me firebringer. I am obviously obviously not town, like ever.
So won't you leave me be for a day?

Dictated but not read,
Firebringer

Flubbernugget · Post Post #253 (ISO) » Thu Mar 17, 2016 2:13 am

In post 245, Persivul wrote:
In post 138, Flubbernugget wrote:
Are you saying all scum are opportunistic?

I'm saying everyone - scum and town - like PRs, so you won't be able to distinguish scum from town by the way the mechanics of this game affect behavior.

You don't think anyone here is going to say "I'm hopping on this wagon because my pr is REALLY IMPORTANT" just to get "roleblocked" the next day?

If you don't think the mechanics of this game are going to change the way people play....why did you join it???

See above. But I'm willing to listen. How will the mechanics of this game make scum play differently from town?

I see where you're coming from now but I answered your question in the post you quoted. I think scum is more likely to be on a wagon for the sake of a pr than town; in this player set I anticipate town being mature enough to not seek so much personal gain.

Hellhound · Post Post #254 (ISO) » Thu Mar 17, 2016 2:14 am

Flubbernugget. Want a cookie?

Flubbernugget · Post Post #255 (ISO) » Thu Mar 17, 2016 2:15 am

In post 244, hiplop wrote:VOTE: persy

I really don't think persuvial is scum rn but I'm interested in your case

Hellhound · Post Post #256 (ISO) » Thu Mar 17, 2016 2:15 am

Specter, can I just say. I really like your guys avatar.

Hellhound · Post Post #257 (ISO) » Thu Mar 17, 2016 2:16 am

In post 255, Flubbernugget wrote:
In post 244, hiplop wrote:VOTE: persy

I really don't think persuvial is scum rn but I'm interested in your case

Flubber! Lets chat over tea.

Flubbernugget · Post Post #258 (ISO) » Thu Mar 17, 2016 2:17 am

Yes hello

Hellhound · Post Post #259 (ISO) » Thu Mar 17, 2016 2:18 am

In post 258, Flubbernugget wrote:Yes hello

Will you townread me for cookies?

Flubbernugget · Post Post #260 (ISO) » Thu Mar 17, 2016 2:21 am

I prefer Xanax and prostitutes

Persivul · Post Post #261 (ISO) » Thu Mar 17, 2016 2:22 am

In post 253, Flubbernugget wrote:I see where you're coming from now but I answered your question in the post you quoted. I think scum is more likely to be on a wagon for the sake of a pr than town; in this player set I anticipate town being mature enough to not seek so much personal gain.

So you think all the scum will be on the first wagon?

And as I said before...doesn't saying this ruin its usefulness?

Hellhound · Post Post #262 (ISO) » Thu Mar 17, 2016 2:22 am

I will not provide prostitutes, that eats too much in to my budget for entertainment.

Flubbernugget · Post Post #263 (ISO) » Thu Mar 17, 2016 2:23 am

Why are you concerned about a read on you I'm refusing to explain? That should be the least of your concerns

Persivul · Post Post #264 (ISO) » Thu Mar 17, 2016 2:24 am

In post 255, Flubbernugget wrote:
In post 244, hiplop wrote:VOTE: persy

I really don't think persuvial is scum rn but I'm interested in your case

Yeah, maybe with some prompting you can change your read on me in 24 - 48 hours.

Hellhound · Post Post #265 (ISO) » Thu Mar 17, 2016 2:24 am

In post 263, Flubbernugget wrote:Why are you concerned about a read on you I'm refusing to explain? That should be the least of your concerns

I am not concerned, I am just creating discussion.

Flubbernugget · Post Post #266 (ISO) » Thu Mar 17, 2016 2:26 am

In post 261, Persivul wrote:
In post 253, Flubbernugget wrote:I see where you're coming from now but I answered your question in the post you quoted. I think scum is more likely to be on a wagon for the sake of a pr than town; in this player set I anticipate town being mature enough to not seek so much personal gain.

So you think all the scum will be on the first wagon?

And as I said before...doesn't saying this ruin its usefulness?

Definitely a possibility, especially if we successfully AM one.

I don't understand why you think saying something so people are more likely to look for it ruins its usefulness.

Flubbernugget · Post Post #267 (ISO) » Thu Mar 17, 2016 2:27 am

I can't see any pushes you make about this actually changing your read on me because of how much you disagree so I'm not 100% sure why you still want to talk about it

Flubbernugget · Post Post #268 (ISO) » Thu Mar 17, 2016 2:29 am

In post 265, Hellhound wrote:
In post 263, Flubbernugget wrote:Why are you concerned about a read on you I'm refusing to explain? That should be the least of your concerns

I am not concerned, I am just creating discussion.

It's not working

What has anti done that you think is scummy?

Persivul · Post Post #269 (ISO) » Thu Mar 17, 2016 2:31 am

In post 266, Flubbernugget wrote:I don't understand why you think saying something so people are more likely to look for it ruins its usefulness.

It introduced wifom to the situation. Even if it's true (and that's not a given - townies love PRs too, and the maturity argument is weak), it would have been better said

after

the first lynch.

Persivul · Post Post #270 (ISO) » Thu Mar 17, 2016 2:32 am

In post 268, Flubbernugget wrote:What has anti done that you think is scummy?

Good question.

Flubbernugget · Post Post #271 (ISO) » Thu Mar 17, 2016 2:36 am

Scum is going to hop on a wagon for the sake of getting a pr because that's what scum would but they're not actually scum but they could be?

Like you can't actually get into wifom based off of what I said

Shiro · Post Post #272 (ISO) » Thu Mar 17, 2016 2:38 am

In post 172, Hellhound wrote:VOTE: shiro

In post 106, Shiro wrote:Hi all, seems like I am a bit late to this evolutionary party.

I am seeing some notes for extinction about Mr.Cakez, can someone brief me?

asking for reasons on an early wagon is already sending up red flags for me, mostly b/c i think in the early game, scum are a lot more likely to feel around and ask for town positions and opinions to be fed to them (as opposed to letting them naturally form on their own)

In post 113, Shiro wrote:@Lane TBH I agree with Per that post from flubber was awful. I am calling both of them scum, Cakez went for the jokish bus vote and fell flat. Thoughts ?

this pinged me something fierce. here i'm feeling like shiro is a lot more concerned w/ ingratiating himself to lane and formulating/peddling this narrative that looks good (but is flimsy and doesn't really stand up to much thought) than actually getting the foundation to intuitive and solid reads going

I mean I was just bored to read the first 5 pages, can't say much about that.

Aa for the second point

Can't really argue with it. Looking at my post and your POV makes it kinda scummy. I guess happens. It was just a response based on what he said and a remark based on a random thought that popped in my mind.

Flubbernugget · Post Post #273 (ISO) » Thu Mar 17, 2016 2:39 am

I think this is the second argument I've gotten into that's going to make town go zzzzzzz but I can't pinpoint what's making it that way

Flubbernugget · Post Post #274 (ISO) » Thu Mar 17, 2016 2:42 am

In post 264, Persivul wrote:
In post 255, Flubbernugget wrote:
In post 244, hiplop wrote:VOTE: persy

I really don't think persuvial is scum rn but I'm interested in your case

Yeah, maybe with some prompting you can change your read on me in 24 - 48 hours.

I just saw this

Why are you so butthurt about me not explaining

one unsubstantiated read

when I've been willing to talk about literally everything else?