Mini 471: End.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Let's just agree on a theopor lynch.

[kravhen]

Let's just agree on a theopor lynch.

Well that's something we can agree on.
I looked at theopor's posts from the past week again, and that refreshed my memory on why he was on my scumdar. Look at them too. It's the way they're written, it feels more like it's coming from scum. I think there are a few subtle slips, a choice of words that I believe betrays him as a scum.

Unvote, Vote: Theopor

[Blue Zebra]

Albert, didn't you say earlier you were almost sure Erotomachia was scum?

[Atticus]

Vote Count

kravhen

(1):

d3sisted

Blue Zebra

(1):

pickemgenius

Erotomachia

(1):

Blue Zebra

pockemgenius

(1):

Albert B. Rampage

theopor_COD

(1):

kravhen

Not voting (3): NabakovNabakov Erotomachia, theopor_COD

[Albert B. Rampage]

Albert, didn't you say earlier you were almost sure Erotomachia was scum?

Theo Ero and Pickem are my picks. Since both theo and pickem are going after Ero, I'd rather lynch theo or pickem now.

[NabakovNabakov]

If we end up with one vote on each person do we win a prize?

Waiting for Pickem's explanation of his vote. This could be important.

[theopor_COD]

Lynch me Albert and I'll chase you from here to the moon. You've already led a lynch on the Doctor in the space of three odd hours and I hasten to add your partner in crime was part of that lynch aswell, ditto Eroto.

Kravhen - do you believe d3sisted to be the cop or do you think he's pulling a rabbit out the bag to save Nab? Seems your not sure. p.s I still think your claims are full of lies.

[kravhen]

Lynch me Albert and I'll chase you from here to the moon. You've already led a lynch on the Doctor in the space of three odd hours and I hasten to add your partner in crime was part of that lynch aswell, ditto Eroto.

Kravhen - do you believe d3sisted to be the cop or do you think he's pulling a rabbit out the bag to save Nab? Seems your not sure. p.s I still think your claims are full of lies.

Ok, here's what I think.

d3sisted is cop.
NabNab is innocent.
I'm mason.
Albert is mason.
Theopor is scum.
BlueZebra is scum.
Ero and pickem...still hard to say. But their case can come later, IMO.

[kravhen]

Also, I think it's clear that NabNab and d3sisted are on the same team, now.. If Nab's innocent then d3sisted is too. Then the scenario above works.

I would favor a BZ lynch over a Theo because the scumvibes are stronger from him, but I dont have albert's OR you guys' support on that, it seems. Everyone's like... frozen and stuck up on trying to scumify me and albert and waste time. Theopor, Pickem, Erotomachia, vote someone. Tell us who you find the scummiest.

[pickemgenius]

i got caught up with doing shit on scumchat last night.

(that and homework, hooray english, and speech class)

so something should be done later tonight.

[pickemgenius]

Ok, here's what I think.

d3sisted is cop.
NabNab is innocent.
I'm mason.
Albert is mason.
Theopor is scum.
BlueZebra is scum.
Ero and pickem...still hard to say. But their case can come later, IMO.

hold the fucking phones. fuck BZ.

cop+doc+2masons=unbalanced.

fuck how was something that obvious so blind to me. better yet how has everyone missed that fact.

Vote: ABR

let's lynch the 2 obvious scum already plz.

[d3sisted]

Either of them is good.

unvote; vote ABR

[Albert B. Rampage]

d3sisted, bad bad bad don't do it.

We have to lynch one of theo or pickem.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Ok, here's what I think.

d3sisted is cop.
NabNab is innocent.
I'm mason.
Albert is mason.
Theopor is scum.
BlueZebra is scum.
Ero and pickem...still hard to say. But their case can come later, IMO.

hold the fucking phones. fuck BZ.

cop+doc+2masons=unbalanced.

fuck how was something that obvious so blind to me. better yet how has everyone missed that fact.

Vote: ABR

let's lynch the 2 obvious scum already plz.

Is you stupid ?

I am in a game with a dead vig, doc, role-blocker, cop AND mason. 12 player.

[pickemgenius]

Ok, here's what I think.

d3sisted is cop.
NabNab is innocent.
I'm mason.
Albert is mason.
Theopor is scum.
BlueZebra is scum.
Ero and pickem...still hard to say. But their case can come later, IMO.

hold the fucking phones. fuck BZ.

cop+doc+2masons=unbalanced.

fuck how was something that obvious so blind to me. better yet how has everyone missed that fact.

Vote: ABR

let's lynch the 2 obvious scum already plz.

Is you stupid ?

I am in a game with a dead vig, doc, role-blocker, cop AND mason. 12 player.

doesn't make it balanced...


p.s. that sounds like an open setup.

[kravhen]

So let me get this right.
Town is apparently advantaged in setup, supposedly. Yet you're about to just ignore or step over this advantage by seeing this advantage as something scummy, and voting a mason. Very smart. Then d3sisted followed so easily. THINK, GODDAMMIT. Advantage my ass. Maybe it's not much of an advantage if it makes us look scummy because "we couldn't possibly exist, the game would be too unbalanced" and then get ABR voted for. Think about it. If it was actually the mod's plan to make the "setup advantage" a two-edged blade, then there ya have it.

Hold your horses with your votes, especially D3sisted. As for pickem, although you're wrong it feels good to finally get something valuable out of you, geez.

[Blue Zebra]

Unbalanced setups aren't all that uncommon. Also, there may be mitigating factors we don't know about, like a scum roleblocker.

[NabakovNabakov]

I'm no master of game balance, but I wouldn't say that Cop+Doc+Masons is game-breakingly unbalanced. Cop + Doc + RB/Vig doesn't seem uncommon, and a Mason pair is a bit stronger than an RB or Vig, but not much. (Remember, they're most effective after one has died anyway.)

I would say Cop + Doc + Masons leans towards the town about as much as Cop + Doc (the setup Pickem is basically proposing) leans towards the scum.

This just seems to be a case of outguessing the mod.

[pickemgenius]

I'm no master of game balance, but I wouldn't say that Cop+Doc+Masons is game-breakingly unbalanced. Cop + Doc + RB/Vig doesn't seem uncommon, and a Mason pair is a bit stronger than an RB or Vig, but not much. (Remember, they're most effective after one has died anyway.)

I would say Cop + Doc + Masons leans towards the town about as much as Cop + Doc (the setup Pickem is basically proposing) leans towards the scum.

This just seems to be a case of outguessing the mod.

3 scum+cop+doc+7 townies= the generally accepted most balanced game. *there was a poll somewhere in MD*


I hold Atticus to a higher standard, and think it's ridiculous that you could have 4 confirmed people in a 12p game, that's just fucking crazy.

[Albert B. Rampage]

It wasn't an open setup, silly.

[NabakovNabakov]

3 scum+cop+doc+7 townies= the generally accepted most balanced game. *there was a poll somewhere in MD*

I believe that was decided to be the "classic" mafia setup. I don't know what guarantees were made on balance.

I just don't understand your logic here. When Kravhen made his second claim, you basically fence-sat for a couple pages, only piping up when somebody threatened you personally, and then came down with a vote for Blue Zebra. Now, you claim that your entire veiw of the game has changed because of

balance issues

? I don't buy that.

cop+doc+2masons=unbalanced.

fuck how was something that obvious so blind to me. better yet how has everyone missed that fact.

Do you really expect us to believe that this made you smack your forehead and realize that Albert/Kravhen are scum?

This is just a screen of bullshit to mask a change in tactics. Not enough people were taking interest in Blue Zebra and you had been backed into a corner in explaining your vote ("fuck BZ"). Albert wasn't so bad an idea.

D3isted-Cop, well intentioned as he is, was guaranteed town support
Theo-scum had already established a precedent for distrusting the claim
If you could have gotten me or BZ (known wagoner) aboard, Eroto-scum could have done the only thing he's good for and hammered. Odds weren't half-bad.

Seems like this town will see another day.

Vote: Pickemgenius

[pickemgenius]

hey nabnab.


i didn't know you could fall to abr's level.

i had a greater respect for you.

i never know 4 fucking confirmable roles was balanced.

i'm not sure many people would hop on the opportunity of being scum in a 12p with 4 people that could be fucking confirmed.

if you're going to tell me that you want 4 confirmed roles in a 12p as scum, then you're fucking on something.


don't even fucking tell me that's balanced.

it doesn't make any fucking sense.

kravhen FUCKING LIED ABOUT HIS CLAIM.

ABR SHOULD HAVE FUCKING SAID SOMETHING RIGHT THEN.

FOR FUCK'S SAKE HOW MUCH MORE FUCKING OBVIOUS DO I HAVE TO MAKE IT TO YOU.

[pickemgenius]

Seems like this town will see another day.

Vote: Pickemgenius

I have a better chance of winning the lottery then the town lasting another day if i'm lynched. (to put it in perspective)

use your fucking brain, you're better then this.

[kravhen]

Seems like this town will see another day.

Vote: Pickemgenius

I have a better chance of winning the lottery then the town lasting another day if i'm lynched. (to put it in perspective)

use your fucking brain, you're better then this.

You use the word fuck too much... I do find it odd how pickem suddenly comes out of his silliness form and now tries to boast a super serious finder of absolute truth role...

I still think pickem isn't the best lynch for today. I still favor a BZ or theo lynch.

[Albert B. Rampage]

LOLLLLLLLL

WE HAVE HIM. POCKEM IS LOSING HIS MIND!!!

Nervous breakdown. Because he's scum.

haaa this is great.

DIE....

D3sisted, LETS LYNCH PICKEMGENIUS. YOU CAN BELITTLE ME LATER.