Open 44 - Twofold Mafia: GAME OVER! before 506

[ChronX]

/ooc Yes it is Rishi. I played it extensively back in the early days of it.

/ic I'm really not looking for a lynch, I'm looking for game. I have subbed into more games than I have been in from the start, and I just don't like to endure pages of nonsense. I believe in one random vote each, then someone needs to be willing to take some heat and propose a bandwagon, not leading to a lynch but leading to activity we can analyze and challenge.

ChronX 4 votes: JDodge (random/metagame vote), shaft.ed (purpose vote), theopur (purpose vote who has decided I'm scum based on no stated case), rishi (purpose vote/OMGUS vote maybe?)

[ChronX]

EBWOP: cross post with GH, my parenthetical comments after the votes are not based on his post

[Rishi]

Well, I think every time two people vote each other that there is a trace of OMGUS in it.

But my vote is mostly based on the fact that, objectively speaking, the case on me seems fairly thin at this point. (I realize it's impossible to be completely objective about myself, but that's okay.) Also, ChronX has complained several times about how slow Day 1 seems to be moving (when it's moving at a reasonable pace to me). The scum want Day 1 to go quickly, because it increases the chances for us to lynch incorrectly.

So that's my reasoning.

[Dasquian]

I don't like this bandwagon on ChronX one bit - it seems like he's got the right intentions of trying to drag us out of pages of gibberish even if he jumped the gun on voting me, now he's getting bandwagonned for it, and everyone's getting their kicks in while it's the cool thing to do.

Unvote, vote Rishi

- she seems the scummier out of her and theopor, though I also want to hear theopor's reasons for a vote.

[somestrangeflea]

This. Is. Votecount!

ChronX - 4 (Jdodge, shaft.ed, theopor_COD, Rishi)
Rishi - 2 (ChronX, Dasquian)
Max - 1 (aioqwe)
ckillor - 1 (Max)
groinhammer - 1 (ChocolateAttack)
Dasquian - 1 (ckillor)

Not Voting - groinhammer, TylerJ

With 12 alive, it's 7 to lynch

For ease of reading, I've rearranged the votecount to show the player with the most votes at the top.

[theopor_COD]

I think ChronX is scummy due to post 54.

I do not yet think he's "scum" yet as he states in 75.

I'm just finding him scummy cest la vie.

[Rishi]

Unvote, vote Rishi

- she seems the scummier out of her and theopor, though I also want to hear theopor's reasons for a vote.

Rishi = he.

[Dasquian]

I could've sworn that meerkat was female.

[Dasquian]

And theopor, what was scummy about 54? On the basis he thought I was random voting aiquoewe up to 3, that was a reasonable first "real" vote to place.

[shaft.ed]

now he's getting bandwagonned for it, and everyone's getting their kicks in while

it's the cool thing to do

.

Yes I was cool way earlier than theopor.

My vote went to ChronX because he said he wanted us out of the random phase and the way to do that was to vote somebody up to 3 votes. He failed to notice, for some reason, that his vote was already contributing to someone that had three votes. Also, if he reallly wanted to get the game moving with a bandwagon, he shouldn't mind if its on him. It's not like it's dangerous or anything. Right ChronX?

[ChronX]

Correct, shaft.ed. See post 75. I can take the heat. No worries.

[ChronX]

Not Voting: tylerJ, groinhammer

mod, in future vote counts would you pls include not voting players? thanks

[somestrangeflea]

Thanks! I was meaning to put that in the previous votecount, but it must've slipped my mind...

Votecount edited to show Not Voting players...

[aioqwe]

Being my first non-newbie game being at 3 votes at random voting was like OMG then I realized this wasn't a newbie game

CronX seems to be throwing the votes around... I believe he's had the most vote changes... Could he be vote hopping?

Finger Nail of Suspicion: CronX

Eh Daesqueen mind spelling my name correctly?

unvote

As we are out of random voting and he hasn't been too fishy in my eyes.

[TylerJ]

Chronx does seem to want to get out of the random vote stage, but that isn't scummy. Unfortunately I can't find anything scummy, wich is truly aggitating, I feel like we are still in the random voting stage and I hate being their.

I did vote for shaft.ed just to let you know. But not to worry

unvote

Rishi does seem to pointing fingers at people for next to nothing...

But saying that is hypocritical....

Perhaps I will find something later on today

[MCHammer]

I think trying to make the move out off random voting is fair enough & not worth a vote, but then we do naturally have to get past this point & the best way to do that is 'apply some pressure', as it was put. I don't agree with you on #54, I see certainty of voting, but with short discussion behind it much scummier

vote: theopor_COD

. The ChronX wagon isn't particularly dangerous at the moment seeing as we're 7 to lynch.

[ChocolateAttack]

Sorry for took this long to make another post but i try my best already. Anyway, nice that we moving out of the random voting stage. I think ChronX action is explainable and i think he is town. On another hand, shaft.ed logic is weak and hasty so i will place my vote on Shaft.ed for now.

vote:Shaft.ed

[TylerJ]

I think ChronX is scummy due to post 54.

I do not yet think he's "scum" yet as he states in 75.

I'm just finding him scummy cest la vie.

Straddling the fence there eh? And I also don't think 54 was scummy, so I don't know what you see in it that is so scummy.

[aioqwe]

I went back and looked at the action at the top of page 3:

I see Diasquian's vote as a "random vote" to get us out of the random vote stage. It wasn't really random in the sense he put it on a person with 2 votes already but it was random in the sense that it wasn't based on behavior or readings from the person.

I don't find Cronx's immediate behavior to be scummy... due to the lack of immediate information as to the reasoning for the vote, I think his vote was a decent response... (None of you better come out crying he's putting up implicit defense!)

I see Shaft (a fellow with far too many phallic images in his name BTW) is a bit aggravated. At least it's more aggravated then Rishi's response.

I'm getting bad vibes from theopor... sorry but your responses are a bit lacking in content... have you got something to hide?

Therefore a

FoS: Shaft.Ed and Theopor_COD

Not going to vote because I have 2 targets on my mind and fairly unrelated reasonings...

[shaft.ed]

I see Shaft (a fellow with far too many phallic images in his name BTW) is a bit aggravated.

Not even going to comment on aggravated shafts.

You can disagree with my ChronX's vote if you want, but it wasn't aggrevated. I put it on ChronX to help move out of random as much as he chose Dasquian. And I've clearly explained that his reasoning was flawed. It looked to me that he was trying to avoid having pressure on you. Coincidence that you would later come back and call my vote aggrevated?

And how is my vote more aggrevated than Rishi's? Mine came when ChronX only had one other vote on him, Rishi's made ChronX the most popular bandwagon thus far.

[Rishi]

And how is my vote more aggrevated than Rishi's? Mine came when ChronX only had one other vote on him, Rishi's made ChronX the most popular bandwagon thus far.

Are you turning on me? I thought we were bandwagon buddies. That makes me sad.

Rishi does seem to pointing fingers at people for next to nothing...

Not really. Other than my joke vote, I've been pretty focused on ChronX. It's not like I'm pointing fingers at everyone.

[theopor_COD]

I think ChronX action is explainable and i think he is town.

vote:Shaft.ed

I'll comment on everything else shortly. Note I found ChronX's vote slightly scummy because it was the third on the wagon something which he called Dasquian out on.

The above however rings my scumdar more. "You think he is town" why? for moving the game forward supposedly? Do you think scum would not look to promote discussion?

[TylerJ]

How does CA ring your scumdar over something like that. I think the majority of people are innocent, does that make me guilty? Come on theopor you have to have something stronger to make a case.

[theopor_COD]

The majority of people are innocent wtf?

Everyone's guilty at the moment.

[TylerJ]

Actually the majority of people are not mafia, but everyone is asuspect. Suspect does not equal guilt.