Chaos Diplomacy FINISHED! Who were the survivors?

[Cephrir]

I don't quite get it -- Bulgaria has not been Mrs. Active but she does show up every now and then. Also the problem Turkey has with being unable to leave their area is unfortunately not going to go away no matter who holds it anyhow.

Either way, I would suggest that at this point it may be a problem for worrying about next turn regardless of your stance. No one would be able to hold their home territory as well as Bulgaria through winter.

[TheBreeze]

I had asked if anyone opposed the move to Ukraine and you didn't say anything, Cep

[Snakes]

Assuming you take the north sea and English channel, then what? You won't have support to take ACRV or myself and you will be required to keep forces behind the sea to support the fleets otherwise they will just get dislodged. There is just not enough resources for you to push on the U.K.

Would you rather I move to Wales instead, so just in case that does happen, you're safe? From what I've read, the support isn't there for the low countries to take both the Channel and the North Sea though.

@Lokiben:

Since we're both western countries with fleets, what do you say to a non-aggression pact?

[TheBreeze]

Moscow would like to extend it's hand out for a non-agression pact (Which can develop into something stronger as we progress) to those in the Austria area who is more interested in claiming supply units around them rather than trying to unify a geographically clustered mess.

I forsee three devisions forming:
Cep/Mario + JDPA if she survives
Monty/Bella
CC/Eagle + maybe Drench?

based on conflicts within the thread. You need to take action before you get stabbed nearby. We can both benefit from such an arrangement. It allows for you guys to exploit a supply goldmine around you while we on the other hand can focus on defending against Germany.

Going into this I have a somewhat bias in wanting to support either of the two later groupings I posted since there has been hostility from Cep's direction and Mario had no problem threatening Monty which was rather sketchy lol but I can be flexible here depending on who seems the most interested in working something out whether it's the start of a fresh new friendship or that of a changed mindset about Russia. I look towards the future, not the past

[Extrapolated Eagle]

I'm happy to work with CC and Russia

[Lokiben]

@Lokiben:

Since we're both western countries with fleets, what do you say to a non-aggression pact?

If we're ever to cross paths then sure.

[DeathNote]

I'm all for that Snakes. Like, if i can't trust my home buddies to be near me then i will never get anywhere.

I seconded a pact with Portugal.

[Cephrir]

I had asked if anyone opposed the move to Ukraine and you didn't say anything, Cep

of course i oppose that. i didn't think i was being asked.

[Cephrir]

I'm happy to work with CC and Russia

Surely you must realize that Russia would love nothing more than to see us turn on each other so they can collect the remains.

[Cephrir]

And I have no intention of working against anyone in the Austria region so long as they don't work against me first, but if mutually assured destruction is what you want, I will give it to you.

I don't percieve the groups that Breeze would like to divide us into as existing. We're having a slight misunderstanding down here, not a conflict. Certainly I don't think there's any evidence that Monty and Bella have an issue with me. Budapest's negotiation tactics are clearly born of inexperience and I think we all understand each other now. All I want is peace in the region while we worry about our borders.

[Cephrir]

I had asked if anyone opposed the move to Ukraine and you didn't say anything, Cep

of course i oppose that. i didn't think i was being asked.

this is so disingenuous is really kind of pisses me off. You asked for Sev to support you there. Obviously, therefore, you knew that I opposed this move and would bounce you out if you did not prevent me from doing so. Your whole post exists to try to divide Austria so you can take advantage of us.

Eagle, please don't listen to this guy. He doesn't have your best interests at heart.

[Extrapolated Eagle]

Alright ceph. I'll work with you. I just need to be on the same page as the people in the same area as me. We have to work together

[Cephrir]

OK. Thanks. I'll probably just sit out of you and Bulgaria working out your issues, then, and I'll happily work with whomever is left afterwards. (I hope that's all of you, but it's not really my problem)

[TheBreeze]

Ukraine was an open territory so I was inclined to take it, I would have held if you opposed it. You didn't, so that play was put into action. Whether or not it seemed obvious to you that you were opposed to it, I'm not a mind reader nor do I have the experience with this game to decipher what is "obvious" and what is not.

[Cephrir]

Ukraine doesn't have a supply center, and thus has no value except positionally. "Taking" it is not really a thing.

[TheBreeze]

You should help austria instead of listening to greece! I don't see what you have to gain by giving him Bulgaria honestly!

Personally I'd love to see you either sit tight in preparation to help Bulgaria and myself, or team up with Bulgaria to murder greece for being antagonistic to us for no reason.

And you have his best interests at heart huh?

The reality of the situation is that it's just not going to work out. Feel free to put on the facade that all of you guys are going to be united for a while let alone Year One but the area restricts you guys too much to build a genuine relationship. Eagle, feel free to tell Cep what he wants to hear so he doesn't turn on you for now but I take you as a logical player and that you will realize that you need to strike before others strike on you for an early elimination.

[MarioManiac4]

Breeze, you can still change your action? I'm confused. Why are you talking in the past tense?

[TheBreeze]

I'm happy to work with CC and Russia

I appreciate this man. This is all I need, I will go out of my way to help you in the future. We know where each other stands with one another and that's all that matters for right now. I don't want you to have to pick a side between Cep and I as if you're some rag doll be tossed around XD Just please take everything I've said to heart and play your area strategically

[DeathNote]

Mom and dad are fighting again aren't they?

[MarioManiac4]

Mom and dad are fighting again aren't they?

We all know what you did. There is no need to fake innocence.

[ActionDan]

you guys are having so much fun. I'm just the heart of an empire

[TheBreeze]

Breeze, you can still change your action? I'm confused. Why are you talking in the past tense?

That is very true, I could. Why should I though?

[Cephrir]

You should help austria instead of listening to greece! I don't see what you have to gain by giving him Bulgaria honestly!

Personally I'd love to see you either sit tight in preparation to help Bulgaria and myself, or team up with Bulgaria to murder greece for being antagonistic to us for no reason.

And you have his best interests at heart huh?

The reality of the situation is that it's just not going to work out. Feel free to put on the facade that all of you guys are going to be united for a while let alone Year One but the area restricts you guys too much to build a genuine relationship. Eagle, feel free to tell Cep what he wants to hear so he doesn't turn on you for now but I take you as a logical player and that you will realize that you need to strike before others strike on you for an early elimination.

Nice try.

I didn't understand why he was against Bulgaria before. Now I do. And this is a game of unite or die. Or do you want to maintain the philosophy that one has to betray one's neighbors and tell that to your own neighbors?

[Save The Dragons]

@Random

Your post reads: 'I want to ally with GB, but I'll follow what you do, Klick' which means you're not planning to ally with GB and you are on Klick's side, is this correct?

[Cephrir]

Perhaps StP and Warsaw should take that as their cue to move into Moscow before you get the chance to betray them