Mini 1772 ~ Game Over

Aquanim · Post Post #625 (ISO) » Sat Mar 12, 2016 5:55 pm

Votecount 1.10

lovelygiant (5) -

Almost50, Postie, Creature, Lowell, Frozen Angel

(L-2)

Frozen Angel (2) -

pistachi0n, GuyFawkes

Creature (2) -

Antihero, lovelygiant

chilledtea (1) -

BlueTrin

Postie (1) -

Dierfire

pistachi0n (1) -

Gale Wing Srock

Not Voting (1) -

chilledtea

With 13 players remaining, 7 votes are required to lynch.
Day 1 deadline - (expired on 2016-03-17 10:00:00)

Notes - Creature and Antihero have been prodded. lovelygiant is a few hours away from a prod.

Spoiler: Full VC

Lowell · Post Post #626 (ISO) » Sat Mar 12, 2016 6:04 pm

In post 602, BlueTrin wrote:
In post 601, Frozen Angel wrote:isn't it obvious that I don't give a shit about my town win condition if I'm really the one who is getting lynched?

yeah its against my win condition. report me after the game. I dare you.

I don't care about whether you played against your win condition, I want to understand Lowell post.

The way I read it lovely started bitching as soon as the "lynch" was achieved, blaming ppl for playing against wincon. How could he do this unless he knew the lynchee was town? Seems obvious, what am I missing?

Lowell · Post Post #627 (ISO) » Sat Mar 12, 2016 6:06 pm

In post 611, Postie wrote:
@Lowell

In post 174, Postie wrote:
In post 169, Lowell wrote:chilled is town.

Reasoning?

Also

In post 111, Postie wrote:
In post 98, Lowell wrote:I like FA for town. Mostly. And dislike that guy (I forget who) who felt the need to give a treatise on why he doesn't like RVS. Dumb.

Can you go into more details on this?

Asked these questions a while back. Would still be interested in the answers.

Strong newbtown vibe on chilled. no other way to explain it. And my FA townvibe is even stronger now given her role in the lovely scumslip and her general activity level.

chilledtea · Post Post #628 (ISO) » Sat Mar 12, 2016 7:53 pm

lowell - if your town vibe on FA is very strong, wouldn't you think that FA played against her win condition during the creature wagon as well? Without knowing the alignment of FA?

Frozen Angel · Post Post #629 (ISO) » Sat Mar 12, 2016 8:18 pm

In post 628, chilledtea wrote:lowell - if your town vibe on FA is very strong, wouldn't you think that FA played against her win condition during the creature wagon as well? Without knowing the alignment of FA?

fake hammering is playing against wincon ?

chilledtea · Post Post #630 (ISO) » Sat Mar 12, 2016 8:20 pm

In post 629, Frozen Angel wrote:
In post 628, chilledtea wrote:lowell - if your town vibe on FA is very strong, wouldn't you think that FA played against her win condition during the creature wagon as well? Without knowing the alignment of FA?

fake hammering is playing against wincon ?

This isn't about fake hammering at all.

Aquanim · Post Post #631 (ISO) » Sat Mar 12, 2016 8:21 pm

lovelygiant has been prodded.

Frozen Angel · Post Post #632 (ISO) » Sat Mar 12, 2016 8:26 pm

In post 630, chilledtea wrote:
In post 629, Frozen Angel wrote:
In post 628, chilledtea wrote:lowell - if your town vibe on FA is very strong, wouldn't you think that FA played against her win condition during the creature wagon as well? Without knowing the alignment of FA?

fake hammering is playing against wincon ?

This isn't about fake hammering at all.

"during the creature wagon"

I didn't played against my wincon in any matters related to creature wagon. elaborate

chilledtea · Post Post #633 (ISO) » Sat Mar 12, 2016 8:28 pm

I think he meant the theatrics. And also it looked like as if you didn't care about the game, with all the claiming and everything.

Frozen Angel · Post Post #634 (ISO) » Sat Mar 12, 2016 8:30 pm

the claiming and everything I did against my wincon had no relation to creature wagon.

please be more spescific

chilledtea · Post Post #635 (ISO) » Sat Mar 12, 2016 8:32 pm

Creature wagon was started by three people actually - myself, dierfire and antihero. It was after that, that you played against your wincon.

Frozen Angel · Post Post #636 (ISO) » Sat Mar 12, 2016 8:35 pm

Please go on more details. In which part do you beleive I played against my wincon. Quote. any thing ... Your just trying to dosge the question and thats scumm af

chilledtea · Post Post #637 (ISO) » Sat Mar 12, 2016 8:41 pm

So you don't remember fighting with antihero and then getting upset? Then claiming macho tracker and fake hammering creature?

Out of these, apart from the fakehammering everything is playing against the wincon I would say. Creating a smoke for whatever reason makes it very easy for scum to hide behind it using many ways.

Also the fakehammering was not known to be fakehammer for some time, so it is possible he might have thought it isn't fake.

Frozen Angel · Post Post #638 (ISO) » Sat Mar 12, 2016 8:43 pm

In post 637, chilledtea wrote:So you don't remember fighting with antihero and then getting upset? Then claiming macho tracker and fake hammering creature?

Out of these, apart from the fakehammering everything is playing against the wincon I would say. Creating a smoke for whatever reason makes it very easy for scum to hide behind it using many ways.

Also the fakehammering was not known to be fakehammer for some time, so it is possible he might have thought it isn't fake.

I remember them . but the part I admit is playing against wincon had no relation to creature wagon.

lets talk about it. What about me related to creature wagon is playing against my wincon ?

chilledtea · Post Post #639 (ISO) » Sat Mar 12, 2016 8:47 pm

I think you are taking the creature wagon part a bit too literally.

I am not sure if there was anything during that exact part of fake hammering if there was something you did against your wincon. But from the time the wagon started, and till it ended - that is what I call creature wagon because it didn't take that much time.

Frozen Angel · Post Post #640 (ISO) » Sat Mar 12, 2016 8:56 pm

so you say I played against my wincon during the time that wagon was shaping not related to that wagon ?

Dierfire · Post Post #641 (ISO) » Sat Mar 12, 2016 10:34 pm

I return--apologies again for the delay.
I see that this game has been rather active in my absence. I fear that catching up may take some time, but I'll do my best.

Dierfire · Post Post #642 (ISO) » Sat Mar 12, 2016 10:35 pm

Oh, right, these phases are 12 days.
Well, I'll get to work now.

Dierfire · Post Post #643 (ISO) » Sat Mar 12, 2016 11:23 pm

Fortunately, most of the posts were short.
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Lowell's 530 is interesting to me, and I'm not sure whether I believe it (my initial reaction to the quick wagon on lovelygiant was to wonder why that "opportunistic" vote in 393 couldn't have been a bus). Part of this is probably the fact that I liked the wagon on Creature (and didn't particularly like Creature's reaction to the supposed hammer), but I'd want to see Creature flip before I start hashing out associative tells there.
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@lovelygiant

I agree with Frozen--I would like an updated list of reads from you.
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@Creature

I could use the same from you.
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I disapprove of those voting for Frozen here. We're not even close to LYLO, and Frozen's claim means that she gets easier to read over time (she will supply results that can be evaluated).
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I've seen nothing from Postie that makes me read her as Town, but I also see that she provided prior examples of her Mafia play, so I suppose that I have some research to do.
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That's it for me for right now. I haven't exactly earned a break, but I have this coming week off, so I expect to be very active over the next few days leading into the deadline.

Gale Wing Srock · Post Post #644 (ISO) » Sun Mar 13, 2016 12:04 am

In post 626, Lowell wrote:
In post 602, BlueTrin wrote:
In post 601, Frozen Angel wrote:isn't it obvious that I don't give a shit about my town win condition if I'm really the one who is getting lynched?

yeah its against my win condition. report me after the game. I dare you.

I don't care about whether you played against your win condition, I want to understand Lowell post.

The way I read it lovely started bitching as soon as the "lynch" was achieved, blaming ppl for playing against wincon. How could he do this unless he knew the lynchee was town? Seems obvious, what am I missing?

I don't think that is the only derivation for blaming FA for playing against her wincon. Ending the day early, role claiming without need, self voting, all can be attributed to that post (412), so why are you saying that LovelyGiant knows Creature is town from that post?

lovelygiant · Post Post #645 (ISO) » Sun Mar 13, 2016 2:53 am

In post 626, Lowell wrote:
In post 602, BlueTrin wrote:
In post 601, Frozen Angel wrote:isn't it obvious that I don't give a shit about my town win condition if I'm really the one who is getting lynched?

yeah its against my win condition. report me after the game. I dare you.

I don't care about whether you played against your win condition, I want to understand Lowell post.

The way I read it lovely started bitching as soon as the "lynch" was achieved, blaming ppl for playing against wincon. How could he do this unless he knew the lynchee was town? Seems obvious, what am I missing?

I made the wincon comments toward FA. I don't know for a fact that they're town, but they are uncountered Macho Tracker, so that's the assumption I am/was operating under. And you go on to townread them in your next post, so what's your point here? I think they're pretty obvious town right now, and the wagon on them is a waste of time that's only been further supporting their innocence. Pretty weak thing to condemn me for.

lovelygiant · Post Post #646 (ISO) » Sun Mar 13, 2016 2:59 am

I'm not sure where people are getting that I know or even think Creature is town.
I'm considering Chilled to be pretty civilian at the moment. I don't understand the FA arguing whether she went against wincon when she admitted it literally one page back but okay. It's irrelevant to today's lynch anyway. Guy and Pista really should move their votes IMO.

lovelygiant · Post Post #647 (ISO) » Sun Mar 13, 2016 3:02 am

In post 606, Postie wrote:All the lurking this game is super annoying. GuyFawkes, Dierfire, Creature, and Lowell in particular all need to get their butts in here. If anyone is lurking because they have a power-role - don't. If you aren't a/the vig, then worst case scenario you get shot by a/the vig.

This feels like hollow "advice" that those players would already know. I'm sure you think you sound very helpful here.

lovelygiant · Post Post #648 (ISO) » Sun Mar 13, 2016 3:03 am

And it's interesting that you subtly propose that they might be PRs lurking before you offer up that they might be scum lurking.

lovelygiant · Post Post #649 (ISO) » Sun Mar 13, 2016 3:04 am

In post 554, GuyFawkes wrote:VOTE: FA

if she wants to be lynched I think we should oblige her

In other words: you don't want to place your vote on a real wagon.