Mini 1768: Detective Conan Mafia (Game Over: Town Wins)

[Firebringer]

I am not happy with this game, I may be subbing out.
Haven't decided.

[Yarrrrgami]

I am not happy with this game

, I may be subbing out.
Haven't decided.

hhhhmmm...

[Phoenix Wright]

VOTE: Phoenix Wright

Explain

[Turtles of Despair]

I am not happy with this game

, I may be subbing out.
Haven't decided.

hhhhmmm...

?

[A Real Scourge]

VOTE: Turtles of Despair

[Tails]

Vote Phoenix

Pirate, follow me. It's Phoenix/Kain.

[A Real Scourge]

firebringer, i hope you decide to stay, but i understand if you want to replace out except, i hope it's because of something besides simply not liking the game.. i think it'd be good to finish it. i have good feelings about it from here on out.

i have very, very good feelings about lynching Turtles of Despair today, too.

Sonic, who did you roleblock last night?

Turtles, you're a double-voter, yes? i think you full-claimed earlier, but i'm not sure. you're just a double-voter?

[Phoenix Wright]

Vote Phoenix

Pirate, follow me. It's Phoenix/Kain.

VOTE: Phoenix Wright

Explain

I don't know why you think that but could you explain?

[A Real Scourge]

day 2 i was occupied with other things, i couldn't really get into it into the end, and i was pretty much fooled by Frozen Angel's behaviour after voting her. luckily i decided not to unvote, or things might have not happened like they did. maybe they would have, but we can't know now. the point is that i didn't think she would flip scum until she claimed mafia goon.

but i'm very confident about Turtles. he's been coasting by, and honestly makes a lot of sense if you look at things through process of elimination. i was thinking about this yesterday as well, but the FA issue seemed more pressing and, at the time of voting her, she was the player i had the most bad feelings about. i didn't end up listening to them all the way through, and i had doubts, but i'm taking this as an indication that i need to move forward with my bad feeling, particularly the one i have about Turtles. i really don't see any evidence to think that the slot is town. that's the rub right there.

preview: a case against Phoenix would be good, because i don't see reason for one.

[beeboy]

Turtles, you're a double-voter, yes? i think you full-claimed earlier, but i'm not sure. you're just a double-voter?

Why does it matter?

[Turtles of Despair]

Turtles, you're a double-voter, yes? i think you full-claimed earlier, but i'm not sure. you're just a double-voter?

Why does it matter?

Oops

[Turtles of Despair]

but i'm very confident about Turtles. he's been coasting by, and honestly makes a lot of sense if you look at things through process of elimination. i was thinking about this yesterday as well, but the FA issue seemed more pressing and, at the time of voting her, she was the player i had the most bad feelings about. i didn't end up listening to them all the way through, and i had doubts, but i'm taking this as an indication that i need to move forward with my bad feeling, particularly the one i have about Turtles. i really don't see any evidence to think that the slot is town. that's the rub right there.

An idling scum double \/oter is terrible play.
Kirro was missing and I couldn't find moti\/ation to play this game by myself.

~Bee

[Turtles of Despair]

Also what is a scum double \/oter?

~Bee

[A Real Scourge]

you can't defend bad scumplay by saying it's bad townplay. that's not how it works! a lot of players this game have been doing this. do you mean to tell me that all of the scum are within the active, participating players in this game? that scum wouldn't feel safe lurking in a game where apathy appears to be a problem?

and now you're saying the same thing that Tails was, which is that scum double-voters don't exist.

you've answered enough of my question, by the way.

[A Real Scourge]

scum double voter isn't even that broken. at most, you could strongarm one hammer, and it would have to be the endgame hammer to prevent that double voter from getting immediately lynched the next day. it's the same as having a known hated townie in the game in lylo.

games can be balanced around a lot of things if they're made right, and a double-vote is not, and will never be, the same thing as an Innocent Child. i shouldn't have to say this, but your 'im a double voter' defense also falls apart when you consider garmr's role.

[Tails]

hard defense of FA for no reason > pushing for a policy lynch today after the hammer > trying to tie other players to FA before the flip and before she outed herself

Phoenix is scum.

[Tails]

Read Phoenix's ISO from the start of the FA wagon on. It's obvious.

[A Real Scourge]

Tails are you even going to reply to me re: Turtles?

where is Phoenix pushing for a policy lynch? he hasn't even voted today.
i'll go check their dual-ISO but you really need to look at Turtles before Phoenix.

[A Real Scourge]

okay i know what policy lynch you were referring to.

but why would scum Phoenix want to policy Not_Mafia after Frozen Angel's flip? he would know she would flip scum. nobody policy lynches someone for speedlynching scum unless the circumstances were really obviously fake. the policy lynch wouldn't go anywhere.

he gave a reason that he 'couldn't say'. there are a few ways to interpret that and instead of asking him to explain it in light of her flip, you instead assume he was just pulling something out of his ass.

[Tails]

I'm talking about yesterday. He started trying to push wanting policy lynch NM yesterday after the hammer. He then switched from that to trying to tie NM to FA BEFORE she even admitted to being scum. I'm just saying what happened in order, but let's just summarize it as lining up lynches and call it a day.

P-edit: I think he was desperate there, which explains why he changed tactics dramatically.

[Tails]

And I think your Turtles point is dumb. Absence means squat in terms of one day. And I still think town would have to have a lot more than a 1-shot governer to deal with a scum double voter.

[Firebringer]

Tails is town so I should sheep him:
VOTE: Phoenix Wroght

[A Real Scourge]

is lining up lynches something only scum would do? is townreading FA something only her scumpartners would do? your explanations are all well and good, but you still feel like you're trying to ignore the turtle in the room.

okay, i looked again, but i still don't see where Nick even mentions Not_Mafia during all that except to tell people that Not_Mafia was scum that should be lynched after FA's townflip... i need quotes.

preview: no no, no, stop the Phoenix Wright votes.
Turtles was weird day 1 as well.

[A Real Scourge]

UGH there are no votecounts and i'm not even sure how many players there are left in the game. nobody else vote.

[A Real Scourge]

okay, so we're currently at 9 players, which means 5 votes to lynch.