Micro 590: RETURN OF THE CARD CZAR [GAME OVER]

[lane0168]

Hello everyone. VOTE: fire starter

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Also being hated means that I need to die before LyLo for us to win.

Yep, so if you're town, outing yourself was a really bad move.

It was...

Why out yourself when now the only way you'll die, is if we lynch you. You're hated, so we're forced to lynch you even if we don't scum read you with no chance of the scum killing you. Before there was actually a chance you'd be killed by scum.

No knowing when Lylo is, blue might have to be the lynch today. Just makes sense to get him out of here.

However fire starter I think deserves my vote still.

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Ranger, can you explain why fire is top of your list? I'll see if I can explain later why hes at the bottom of mine.

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We were out of rvs, so you putting me to L-1 is serious. In a game that could potentially have 4 scum roles, mislynching is a serious fuck up.

So you agree we should lynch blue today?

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Fire starter. Can you link me to the great idea games you've played?

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I only see one. Are you an alt?

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I'm not following you being self declared town whatsoever

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Sorry. Obvi town

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Does that make me obvi town cause I discarded mafia role?

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(Thanks! God I'm obsessed with the show lol)

Hm, after looking at him closer, I'd agree he's acting slightly scummy, but that seems like a pretty strong FOS you've got going there. What's the reason for having such a strong scumread pg.2?

Trying to remember if this game is plurality or majority

What do you see that is scummy from Blue?

[lane0168]

Lol sorry it was an accident!

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But you said it should be obvious youre town for the rest of us? Why should I believe you're obvi town?

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Alright I think I'm following now.

VOTE: sarasakat

[lane0168]

Are those my only choices?

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I followed what you are saying about your Discard and discontinued voting you. I don't like 37 that I quoted above. I want to know what sarasakat thought was scummy.

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Ranger, if you were just giving a reason for why Blue could have discarded Treestump, why did you vote him?

Oh, that's simple enough. I don't think discarding the tree stump, by itself, indicates BlueTrin is scum.

I think BlueTrin, off of posting, happens to be scum anyway.

(Nice ladybug avatar, btw.)

(Thanks! God I'm obsessed with the show lol)

Hm, after looking at him closer, I'd agree he's acting slightly scummy, but that seems like a pretty strong FOS you've got going there. What's the reason for having such a strong scumread pg.2?

Trying to remember if this game is plurality or majority

Specifically, it starts to just go along with ranger. I want to know why?

The wording of pretty strong FOS is weird too... It was a vote. Not an FOS. also "such a strong scum read" after ranger says she thinks blue happens to be scum.

Sarasakat seems to be making a vote look like a bigger deal than it is, after they said it was only page 2.

The whole post just bugs me.

What was "such a strong scum read" sarasakat? A vote? I mean theres lots of votes, and ranger wasnt hard forcing the wagon.

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My point was originally going to be if he is so scared of being at l-1 cause there could be 4 scum, then isn't he also scared of you being hated.

When do you think would be optimal to lynch you

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If there is 3 scum. We lose if we mislynching today and its not you

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But I also believe that lane was quick to decide to lynch me very early in the day. I still find this suspicious.

I didn't decide to lynch you already. If I had, I'd be voting you

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"Plurality voting usually comes into effect if no player has a majority of votes at a Day's deadline, though usually only if lynching is compulsive."

Its pretty clearly in the wiki. It comes into effect at deadline

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Anyways. Sarasakat, you didn't answer why ranger read was SO STRONG! it looked like a normal read. And why get fos was so much worse than your fos on ranger

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That's a quick change of opinion lmfao

Is 45 who you perceive as being tied together?

If that was all you saw about blue being scum, why do you think its weird Rangers opinion changed quickly? Wasnt much to begin with, seems like it's easy to switch.

My point being, I feel like you're making stuff up. Rangers read wasnt so strong. And yet you questioned why it was so strong. It wasnt a fos suspicion, it was a vote, and yet you questioned why it was so heavy. Even by your definition of fos, it wasn't so heavy. It was rregular weight, and yet the way you worded it made it seem like ranger had spent days and walls explaining why we should vote blue.

That's my problem with sarasakat

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Ranger, if you were just giving a reason for why Blue could have discarded Treestump, why did you vote him?

Oh, that's simple enough. I don't think discarding the tree stump, by itself, indicates BlueTrin is scum.

I think BlueTrin, off of posting, happens to be scum anyway.

(Nice ladybug avatar, btw.)

This is what made me think so. That's a pretty definitive statement for page 2.

Huh.

UNVOTE: BlueTrin.

I think BlueTrin is town.

That's also a pretty definitive statement, but in the reverse direction.

Think it's not definitive in any way... Happens to be is not definitive.

Blue is scum guys! Vote here! That's definitive
Blue is town guys! Take your votes off now! That's definitive

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For page 2, it is. Normally, I'd totally agree with you. But having a scum lean or town lean on

page 2

? That's pretty definitive.

Clearly its not. It changed in the same page. How can you still think that's definitive?

[lane0168]

Yeah, and I have no issues with people making their reads clear and known to everyone as early as possible. I'm not sure why anyone would have issues with people being transparent

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No it doesn't convey that at all. There is a huge difference between saying I think sarasakat is scum, and pressing the wagon like I know that are scum.

[lane0168]

Welp VOTE: ircher

Feels like a blitz. Only faster. And I like it

[lane0168]

Lol. Crazy night. Well my reads were way off

[lane0168]

Idk my reads now. I thought sarasakat. I was way off with my reads. I'd rather not pick the vig

[lane0168]

Role: Underdog, serial killer
Power: Watcher, mafia janitor.
Result: Underdog Watcher.
No modifier

Really wanted ircher to be scum.

[lane0168]

Did Ari die cause he was loving with sarasakat?

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Ranger. No visits. Thought was a decent candidate for a kill

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Most likely. It said he committed suicide. Another reason I'd like to kill Persival. He didn't kill scum, he killed town.

I would've killed sarasakat too.

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I took a town alignment with the flip. That's why I wanted ircher to be scum. That'd make me scum Watcher.

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If blue is town, and we don't lynch him today, that's a scum win right? Unless we're 100% sure of a scum lynch

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VOTE: blue

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L-1 if he's truthful

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UNVOTE:

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Correct me if I'm wrong. But fs claimed bloodhound card. Persivul claimed bloodhound card. And we have a bloodhound flip. There's only 2 bloodhounds in the roles list I'm pretty sure

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@maestro, just clarifying that every player got the full list, Ie.we all could've gotten bloodhound

I originally thought that many he randomized the player list then chose roles.

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Lol

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Dammit. I really thought I had something there

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Not sure why you'd do something to make it more likely to get duplicate roles though

[lane0168]

It's not even my birthday...

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My birthday is on Halloween lol

[lane0168]

Oh nice! Yay!

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Dammit

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I'm not sure enough of scum to risk missing and losing tomorrow. In fact, I have no idea. I don't think we can keep blue alive

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Ranger? Who dies today?

Its odd Rangers 2 scum reads were town. She's usually good for at least 1. She did have Ari low though

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Why more likely than a vig?

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Isn't that a point to not vote blue? Cause it's ok if he's alive tomorrow

[lane0168]

Honestly love the reputation I'm building for myself. Cause it's true. Shit for finding scum, good for looking like town lol.

If you knew ranger was good at reading people, why do you ask why id pick ranger? Seems obvious even to you

[lane0168]

Ranger. No visits. Thought was a decent candidate for a kill

Why did you believe that Ranger was a better candidate for a kill than FS ?

Neither one was a candidate for the kill apparently, so why are you comparing them?

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Right, but why didn't you ask me why I picked ranger instead of Lowell... The person who actually got targeted

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My angle is trying to figure out your angle

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My angle is not to be playing this little game with you.

VOTE: blue

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Lol

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My angle is not to be playing this little game with you.

VOTE: blue

Dammit. I thought this was the ultimate in your face, forgot Persival unvoted lol

[lane0168]

I'm not sure that he is more town than blue. Like I said, I have no idea.

[lane0168]

Well this will go down as Rangers worst game. The fact shes been 100% wrong makes me think she's scum.

Id like to vote BlueTrin too though. Throw 2 votes and see if we're in Lylo.

Ranger, which one of us is ARI'S partner? And if neither, why was there only 2 kills last night? Do you think there were 3 scum factions? What makes you disbelieve my claim?

I feel like ranger has a playstyle that can be easily played as scum or town, and she's hiding behind that right now, but really thinking things through like normal.

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*not really

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I was gonna say let's put 3 votes on ranger and check that for a lie, but this works, ranger wouldn't get lynched today if loved. Couldn't convince fs to vote

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I kinda actually think Persivul is scum of some kind that shot as if town, and lane is also scum of some kind, but that they are not tied together as the same alignment.
If they were, then BlueTrin would have been lynched already and we would have lost.

See ranger isn't thinking about hardly anything, just hiding behind playstyle I think. If we were, BlueTrin wouldn't be lynched, because hated and loved don't work in Lylo

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Id be game for another.

Should've just pushed fs for calling himself obvi town and that day vig first post. Twice recently the first joke post was scum. Really don't know why I have up on him so easily. Claiming town so adamantly should've gotten more attention