Micro 590: RETURN OF THE CARD CZAR [GAME OVER]

[Persivul]

Role and alignment changes are reflected in flips. My posts are accurate.

Maybe that means there's a kingmaker who made him king, but then he died. BUT...that doesn't explain the 1-shot modifier before king.

[Fire Starter]

Edited to compensate for the breaking of a rule.

~M

Fucking christ. DID YOU NOT READ THE RULES?

[Fire Starter]

* After you're dead (e.g. after I post your death, not after L-0), no posts of ANY KIND. That includes something that would normally be considered a "Bah"-type post. This rule will be enforced by a Modkill or other action that would harm the offending player's faction.

[Fire Starter]

Seriously? If he enforces this(be merciful) this could fucked us 100%

[Persivul]

What are the chances this is lylo? Since there was only one scum kill it's unlikely that there's two scum factions. The King role indicates that Blue is a kingmaker, and unless he was strongly town reading Ari (we need to check that), he's probably WW.

[Persivul]

Seriously? If he enforces this(be merciful) this could fucked us 100%

Why? He's already dead. If he's turned to neutral survivor that doesn't hurt us.

[Persivul]

Blue did not have a strong town read on Ari. So, if the rest of us are telling the truth about our cards, Blue's a WW kingmaker.

[Fire Starter]

If he does that them we're fine, but it also says an action that harms the faction. Modkilled would be better for sure though. I panicked.

See, I can't really talk to you about lylo and stuff because I think you're scum. In which case there ARE two factions. Otherwise no one would have kinged Aristophanes. Blue was scum reading him hard, so to me that doesnt make sense unless Aristophanes was going to be biased hard.

Pedit: I will look at his roles later, I'm at work.

[Fire Starter]

*bussed not biased my phone keeps autocorrecting

[Persivul]

If he does that them we're fine, but it also says an action that harms the faction. Modkilled would be better for sure though. I panicked.

I didn't see the harms the faction language. Typically only the modkilled person is affected, not their faction. Guess we'll see.

See, I can't really talk to you about lylo and stuff because I think you're scum. In which case there ARE two factions. Otherwise no one would have kinged Aristophanes. Blue was scum reading him hard, so to me that doesnt make sense unless Aristophanes was going to be biased hard.

I voted the most scum-read person and vigged the next most scum-read person. I could have claimed that I vigged Ari and Sarasa was the collateral damage, but I'm being honest about it. OTOH you have Blue, who conveniently claimed Hated.

[Fire Starter]

If you claimed you vigged Ari, ID be voting you already. He committed suicide. Not killed.

Did blue even claim roles yet?

[Persivul]

Oh yeah, I forgot about the suicide.

I don't think he has claimed yet. Will be interesting to see if he claims kingmaker or not.

[Fire Starter]

Well he won't now -_-

[Persivul]

{Fire Starter, Ranger}
{}
{Aristophanes, SarasaKat, Persivul, }
{lane0168, Lowell}
{Ircher}

Notes:

• Ari has not posted much
  
• I believe that Ranger and FS genuinely tried to find whether I am scum.
  
• SarasaKat, you saty that Ranger changed his opinion about me: my opinion is that town will usually change their opinion because we do not know who is scum, therefore we will engage in an investigation process to determine who is scum. This is what FS and Ranger have been doing.
  
• Also this is why I didn't like lane post: instead of investigating whether I am just scum, he just asked if everybody was ok to lynch me, which is nearly the same thing but with a different tone.
  
• Persivul gave a slight defense on Lane, can be genuine or not but should be kept for later.
  
• I don't like Ircher reaction as well: it is way too early for a reaction like his
  
• If anyone feels like I shall be lynched as it looks like there would be more scum than town, tell me, I will even hammer myself if needed
  
• Lowell wants to finish the day quickly as well: I am a bit surprised, in the other games, people want to use as much time as they can every day, is this because you are all much more experienced ?

This is the post I didn't like too much, even if he is flailing, why shouldn't use the time to make Ari talk for example ? Also Lowell, your ISO is a bit empty for now.

hadn't even read just above my post. Eh, this is awful flailing from ircher. textbook "ugh I'm mad you're voting me for no reason without letting me explain it's so unfair i'm taking my ball and going home."
It's over. Let's end it for this guy. worry about sara or whoever tomorrow.

Ari, let's hear more from you now, Ircher consider that my vote is on you for now.
VOTE: Aristophanes

FS, Ranger, should I state my intent to hammer ?

I have a vote on Ari only to get him to speak at the moment.

Classic distancing.

[lane0168]

I took a town alignment with the flip. That's why I wanted ircher to be scum. That'd make me scum Watcher.

[lane0168]

If blue is town, and we don't lynch him today, that's a scum win right? Unless we're 100% sure of a scum lynch

[lane0168]

VOTE: blue

[lane0168]

L-1 if he's truthful

[lane0168]

UNVOTE:

[lane0168]

Correct me if I'm wrong. But fs claimed bloodhound card. Persivul claimed bloodhound card. And we have a bloodhound flip. There's only 2 bloodhounds in the roles list I'm pretty sure

[Persivul]

Good catch. Is there any way Ari could have been made bloodhound D1 or N1 without having the card? I don't think so. I double checked my roles PM and I definitely got bloodhound.

VOTE: Fire Starter

[Fire Starter]

Just to be clear, I can assure that both the Role List and the Modifier List were randomized FOR EACH PLAYER, so as to prevent gaming of the system or an unequal probability of a player drawing a role based on something as trivial as "whether or not I pulled theirs from the list first" - nobody wants to get mostly VTs just because they signed up last.

[Fire Starter]

Thanks for the opportunistic vote though.

[lane0168]

@maestro, just clarifying that every player got the full list, Ie.we all could've gotten bloodhound

I originally thought that many he randomized the player list then chose roles.

[Persivul]

It's not my fault maestro does everything weird.
UNVOTE: