Mini 1764: Netherspite's SORM III [Game Over]

[Aronis]

Pagetop!

This game is boring

[shos]

^^^jesterrrrr

Can we proceed with any lynch in {snowman, 3rd, droog}

[Netherspite]

VoteCount 2.3

SnarkySnowman (1):

Aronis

FA_Q2 (1):

randomidget

Espeonage (1):

3dicerolling

droog (1):

shos

shos (1):

SnarkySnowman

Not Voting (5):

droog, Aneninen, Yarrrrgami, FA_Q2, Espeonage

With 10 players alive, it takes

6

votes to lynch someone.

The deadline is in

(expired on 2016-03-16 10:46:00)

[Randomnamechange]

That seemed kind of forced from FA_Q2.

[Aneninen]

anyawy. we have TWO people who "forgot" to use their night actions, and this is suspicious as hell, and they are our today pool

this looks like an admission
that you never had any strong reads at all

That looks like utter trash.

Yeah, which is part of why I think shos is scum and should be lynched.

Oh, seems I've forgotten to VOTE: shos

^^
Players who are afraid of Shos's PR.

Be we forgettin' that aronis is still pretty clearly a scurvy-ridden scoundrel?

Not until there's a chance he's Jester.

Though I wouldn't be surprised if one of the lazy deckhands who didn't report to the captain is the king o' scurvy.

If I get this right, I too wouldn't rule this out. If that "King o'scurvy" exist at all.

He pushed Aronis virtually all day. I don't see Aronis as being scum with our Xy. Do you think he was busing?

Good point. Xk's attack on Aronis looked genuine, especially if we consider the fact that Aronis was in the lynch-pool without Xk too.

Ont that same vein:

On phone so I'll keep it succinct. Is anyone else disturbed by the fact that Xk is trying to strongarm himself in to a leader position? Because it feels fishy to me. Yarr's argument for Rory makes sense so I will probably compromise to there.

Unusual timing for such a statement had he been his scum partner. I don't think Espionage is a good direction to go either. There was a bit of back and fourth over 3dice as well that is making me lean away from that direction.

Xy's interactions with Aneninen are not sitting well with me. 486 (quoted above) feels forced and expletive of why they had similar reads without the actual need to say as much.

I don't know what to think about Espeonage.
I too noticed that Xk tried to take control of the town, but Yesterday I thought Xk was a badly-played Marschall. (I even hinted it somewhere.) I know it's easy to be clever now, but I should have noticed that he used the concepts like "Regardless of Card" (from my wiki) without any doubts, questions, etc. Whereas most players call those "Aneninen-tells" silly at best.

Firebringer's town read seems strange here. I don't see why fire was town read at this point particularly over anyone else. All other null except fire and yarr. At least yarr had a reason to town read.
Anyone else have anything catch their eye from that slot.

I don't know why his Firebringer read is relevant now.
As for the last part (I assume that was a question), I'll check his ISO later.

Can we proceed with any lynch in {snowman, 3rd, droog}

Assuming you're right about Aronis, I'll prefer this:

VOTE: SnarkySnowman

That seemed kind of forced from FA_Q2.

Why?
I think he brought up quite good points.

[Aneninen]

I think Randomidget and FA_Q are town. Randomidget's reactions are townish, including the fact he was the only player who actually answered my question. FA_Q has done the most effort for breaking the stall we're in, which alone is a towntell for me.

[Aneninen]

From Xkfyu's ISO.

No read on Snarky, but figure he'll be sorted out through night actions, so not interested in lynching him. Same goes for Rory, really.
Everyone else is straight up null for me, right now.

Hmm-hmm-hmm, null on everyone, but mentioning Snarky separately. (And he was already a viable lynch target at that time, as far as I can remember.)

certainly
not all the neutrals can win
if they want town support
they should compete for it

This is pretty much along the lines of what I'm thinking. We just need to make sure that we have a clear advantage. Otherwise, they probably won't care too much about having town support.

Oh, that theoretical talk about all the third parties. I don't know whether this interaction looks bad on Druuge.

Meanwhile, he pushed Randomidget. Another town point for him then.

In post 308, SnarkySnowman wrote:
I'm down with a massclaim. I am Busdriver.

Stop massclaiming.
That's how we started going down last time.
Also, I think this claim was actually fake.

Considering that this was the second time he has actually claimed, and that no one actually agreed to a mass claim, I'd say it's a pretty good bet that it's fake.

Information instead of Analyses?

I don't quote this dialogue because of its lenght but it's !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 360 !!!!!!!!!!!!

The types that be dancin' round hopin' for dead cthulhu to rise again from the briny deep in his palace o' R'lyeh. They also be lovin' that fishy Dagon fellow.
They be dancin' round their idols, hopin' that cthulhu be opening the gate in reality so that the realm o' Yog-Sothoth be invadin' us; those types.

Bad news, they be.

I'm following you now.
UNVOTE: Aronis
VOTE: Rory

Wasn't he against lynching Snowman and Rory for the same reason before?

His interactions with 3-Dice seems to be genuine. (I won't quote that, it's very long.)

What I've seen has convinced me that Yarr is town, and what they have said makes a lot of sense. I'll continue to talk it out about the best way to approach today but, like I said, I'm perfectly happy with sheeping Yarr, until I can find a good reason not to.

I don't think he sheeped his scumbuddy.

________

TL;DR.
Although this post is long, it didn't tell me new things. His most possible partner is Snowman and based upon his interactions I don't think either of these is Mafia: Aronis, Randomidget, FA_Q, Yarr.

[Yarrrrgami]

based upon his interactions I don't think either of these is Mafia: Aronis ...

Explain why ye be thinking his int'ractions with aronis be scurvy to non-scurvy.

[Aneninen]

Obviously, Xkfyu's push on Aronis was probably pigeon poop. (Although we can't rule out that he was scumhunting for real, I mean, searching for a 3rd Party player.) But, I don't think Aronis handled Xk differently than anyone else (as far as I can remember), and scums may act differently whenever their partner is attacking them.
More importantly, it's not Xk's push in itself. It's the timing of the whole stuff. Day1 Bussing itself can be detrimental in a Setup like this. But, at that time Aronis's wagon, as the leading one topped at L–2 (on Page14, I've just checked it) and an Aronis-lynch was a real possibility. (Although Xk jumped on the Rory-wagon at the end of next page.)
I must admit, my read may be bias-ed because of Shos calling him a Jester and the fact that I can imagine Snowman as Xk's Mafia partner strengthens this.

[shos]

My night result supports him being a Jester

[SnarkySnowman]

Him being?

[3dicerolling]

Him being?

Are you reading this game at all?

[Randomnamechange]

I don't blame him tbh. It's hardly engaging gameplay.

[Yarrrrgami]

My night result supports him being a Jester

There be no deckhand that could discriminate between the non-killing third party type o' scurvy dogs.

[SnarkySnowman]

My night result supports him being a Jester

There be no deckhand that could discriminate between the non-killing third party type o' scurvy dogs.

This, hence shos being a good lynch.

[Yarrrrgami]

Obviously, Xkfyu's push on Aronis was probably pigeon poop. (Although we can't rule out that he was scumhunting for real, I mean, searching for a 3rd Party player.) But, I don't think Aronis handled Xk differently than anyone else (as far as I can remember), and scums may act differently whenever their partner is attacking them.
More importantly, it's not Xk's push in itself. It's the timing of the whole stuff. Day1 Bussing itself can be detrimental in a Setup like this. But, at that time Aronis's wagon, as the leading one topped at L–2 (on Page14, I've just checked it) and an Aronis-lynch was a real possibility. (Although Xk jumped on the Rory-wagon at the end of next page.)
I must admit, my read may be bias-ed because of Shos calling him a Jester and the fact that I can imagine Snowman as Xk's Mafia partner strengthens this.

Almost every word of this pigeon scribblin' is nonsense.

Why is Day 1 bussing detrimental on this voyage? This is exactly the sort o' voyage where pushing a buddy off the plank Day 1 be a pretty good idea. On most voyages, where it actually is detrimental to offing your own buddy in scurvyness, are Day 1 scurvy-lynches entirely composed of non-scurvy dogs?

Why, if letters-pirate wanted to see Aronis become shark-food, does he attack the next prod on the wagon so hard? Why is he so happy to jump off so soon?

He never, ever "pushes" Aronis. He was ignoring Aronis until it looked like aronis was likely to be feedin' the sharks. Then he hopped on the wagon with little justification, then hopped off again, occasionally tossing out a "aronis be scurvy" remark while voting inky-pirate.

[Yarrrrgami]

My night result supports him being a Jester

There be no deckhand that could discriminate between the non-killing third party type o' scurvy dogs.

This, hence shos being a good lynch.

Letters-pirate attacked spinny-ring pirate without ever callin' him scurvy. Spinny-ring pirate is scurvy-free or third party.

[3dicerolling]

My night result supports him being a Jester

There be no deckhand that could discriminate between the non-killing third party type o' scurvy dogs.

There is a role that can somewhat do that.

[shos]

So you say he may be a survivor?
With that kind of play?

I lol @ thee

[Yarrrrgami]

I think he be the suit-wearin' scurvy type.

[Yarrrrgami]

fancy suit, that is, and with expensive shoes.

[Randomnamechange]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: aronis

[Aneninen]

Almost every word of this pigeon scribblin' is nonsense.
Why is Day 1 bussing detrimental on this voyage? This is exactly the sort o' voyage where pushing a buddy off the plank Day 1 be a pretty good idea. On most voyages, where it actually is detrimental to offing your own buddy in scurvyness, are Day 1 scurvy-lynches entirely composed of non-scurvy dogs?
Why, if letters-pirate wanted to see Aronis become shark-food, does he attack the next prod on the wagon so hard? Why is he so happy to jump off so soon?
He never, ever "pushes" Aronis. He was ignoring Aronis until it looked like aronis was likely to be feedin' the sharks. Then he hopped on the wagon with little justification, then hopped off again, occasionally tossing out a "aronis be scurvy" remark while voting inky-pirate.

You could be right.
What do you think of Snowman? Am I right about him or is he Jester?
We should really sort this out unless we end up lynching the Jester.
Who has any ideas?

Also, I've been checking a couple of things. Shos can't be Mafia, nor Third-Party. Therefore, noone need answer my previous questions. I know what I know so consider him confirmed town until I'm saying the opposite – and the chance for doing so is <1%.

So you say he may be a survivor?
With that kind of play?
I lol @ thee

Someone must help him out somehow.

[shos]

Snowman is ni Jest, no offebse but either baaaad townie or scumbutt/3p

But ni jest

[droog]

Players who are afraid of Shos's PR.

how do you get this out of what i said
shos wants to lynch in the "no nightaction pool"
this apparently trumps any other reads
or input
hes ever received
how is that not incredibly scummy