(1765) Star Wars: The Force Awakens [D5]

[RadiantCowbells]

C) if you are really worried about it, just force Cowbells off the wagon and Lynch scum without him. He sleeps too.

This literally doesn't make any sense though Camn.
If I'm lyncher, and Aero has claimed Sk, why the fuck not give me the win.
You instantly get rid of two people with non-town aligned role PMs.
It's the rational thing to do.

[camn]

I guess?
That's why lyncher is so dumb.

I wanna reiterate, I am going on vacation for a week.... And I am actually enjoying this game. Don't let them Lynch me in absentia. Not with claimed scum around. I would be sad.
Also...the non-Aero scum are really getting a free pass today.

[TheTrollie]

note how camn continually ignores my claims.

[Gorkington]

this is my cue to get paranoid again weeeeeeeeeeee.
snarky 100% needs to post or my townread there is going to start wavering.

RC is somehow creeping into my townleans by gut which is disagreeing with how mechanics seem to be laid out right now, but mechanics have never been my strong suit so maybe my early read there was wrong.

i still think camn is scum.

[Gorkington]

i dont know if camn being scum makes it worth not lynching aero though.
at the risk of sounding hyper-opportunistic.

i know that if aero is sk [and theres still that scary chance that hes not i guess], theres a decent chance that he would do a solid for town before going out, but beyond camn im not really sure theres anyone that i would want to see killed?
like, the only outright lurker that i feel like would be a waste of time to see run up is snarky, but im worried that my townread was right and hes just checking out of the site.
zzzz.

[camn]

I will address it all when the time comes, Trollie.
I think more things will come clear.

If it makes you feel betrer- I'm not either of those guys you think I am. I am not an evil monster hell-bent on killing you!

There.

I actually kind of appreciate the inevitability of my Lynch...because it actually means I might live through the nights for once. I have a horrible habit of being killed.
Intereatingly, have a small wager with myself as to who will be nightkilled first, RC or me.
Given this is multiball, it becomes especially relevant. So thank you. Don't stop. But let's lynch actual scum first.

[Keyser Söze]

Will catch up this weekend.

@xRECKONERx

- VC please.

[TheLoneWolf]

VOTE: Aeronaut

[xRECKONERx]

ay reck.
would a traditional lyncher be considered bastard by your standards?

A lyncher whose win ended the game would be bastard, but not a lyncher who simply left the game upon wincon fulfillment.

[xRECKONERx]

Aeronaut (4): RadiantCowbells, camn, TheLoneWolf, Venmar
RadiantCowbells
Venmar
TheTrollie
Gorkington
Extrapolated Eagle
TheLoneWolf
SnarkySnowman
Keyser Söze
camn (2): Aeronaut, TheTrollie

Not voting: Gorkington, SnarkySnowman, Extrapolated Eagle, Keyser Söze

10 alive, 6 to lynch.
Deadline is in (expired on 2016-03-13 22:00:00).[/size]

[TheTrollie]

venmar, Gork, Eagle, Keyser

the lynch needs to be on camn today. If we don't lynch camn today we/you go into D3 with a shitstorm of WIFOM.

I cannot see an argument for why lynching and flipping claimed SK/3p on D2 is better than lynching someone who is confirmed in a mafia faction - unless you do not believe my claim for some reason.

(side note: I specifically am asking these four because they interested in having this dicusion, whereas the others refuse to engage in this discourse and are deadset on an aero lynch, but if I'm wrong this is really to everyone other than Aero, RC, and Camn...though RC if you want to come to your senses and have this discussion, as I have been willing to have all day, please join)

[Venmar]

Unvote

Vote: Camn

I'm considering this right now since I find myself agreeing with Trollie a lot. If we're to lynch either a SK or a Mafia, then maybe lynching the scum today and hoping the SK does a pro-town kill in the night might be slightly more beneficial, it's just very unsettling for me to leave a claimed SK alive for a night.

Aeronaut, don't shoot me in the night, for the love of god.

[camn]

I'm going on vacation tomorrow, like I warned y'all.

If you are actually serious about this, do it today.
Otherwise you will be running me up while I am gone, which, believe me, would be anti-town. And not sporting :/

[Venmar]

You're going on vacation for a

week.

This day expires in around the same amount of time. I doubt any of us want to sit around waiting for you; give us a reason for why we shouldn't lynch you or say your peace.

[camn]

I don't understand your emphasis.

[Venmar]

Ok

[RadiantCowbells]

No.

If we lynch Camn and she flips town then Aero can shoot for town and we can't lynch him tomorrow.

We are lynching Aero. Stop it.

[RadiantCowbells]

Camn may be scum.
I refuse to pass judgement on that.
Aero is the lynch for the day.

[camn]

Obv Aero would need a backup target if you Lynch me.

But if I were dead, you couldn't punish ME for Aero shooting town :/

[Venmar]

...what? You're just telling us why Aero is a better lynch than you, you're not even explicitly saying why you

shouldn't

be lynched, you're even implying you should be shot if we don't lynch Aero

I don't get it

[camn]

Why? Because lynching townies is suboptimal.
"Why" is a silly question, because everyone answers it the same.
But I am not arguing "why" right now. I am arguing "when".
I'm a bad lynch, but totally outside of the merits of my lynch- I'm not going to be here.
Even if I were going to flip scum, which I am not, it would be better to lynch me tomorrow... Just for the extra squirming/data/etc.

If you are hell bent on it, and think you have the

chutzpah

votes, then bring it on. I just ask you... Bring it TODAY. If I come back and find me lynched, I will frown on everyone involved for many games to come.

I know people get all agro in mafia, but I am back to having fun. Lynching me without a claim while I am gone is no fun.

[Venmar]

Then claim now?

[camn]

At 3 votes? That's scummy af.

You already got 2 townie claims out of today... Isn't that enough?

[Gorkington]

VOTE: camn

[camn]

It's like a rushed and awkward run-up at deadline... Only you guys are doing it on purpose, instead of through apathy?

What a ruin today has been.

2 unnecessary town power claims, a claimed scum unlynched, and now this. Plus no real discussion of note about much else.

Anyone else?
Are we really looking for a 4-claim day 2?