(1765) Star Wars: The Force Awakens [D5]

[Gorkington]

im putting plenty of nuance into this game venmar.
least you can do is try to keep up with "a lower-case typing ass".

Gork should we tell that that we're really masons now?

no way scumbutt.

P-edit: really? you think i want brownie points?
am i scum or not?
if i am make a better case on me than outrageously simple statements because thats literally all im seeing.
i have two catchup posts.
ive given reads.
engage me on them instead of being useless.

[Gorkington]

i'm just confused as to why Gork was desperate for it

i hate pointlessly reachy language like this.
yes.
i asked aero to give reads more than once.
because i think hes a good player and i think hes the sort of guy who will genuinely drop sincere reads even as a caught SK and i value discussion with him.

hes done a lot more productivity-wise than you on engaging me.

[Aeronaut]

For the record I have no problem Aero saying his peace, i'm just confused as to why Gork was desperate for it. I mean, if Aero doesn't understand why I, from a town perspective, can't trust a serial killer, then there's nothing more to say between him and me.

Well you obviously do have a problem with me saying my reads and stuff because you tried to quicklynch me. Whether I'm scum or not, I'm still being active and forming reads on people; you trying to get rid of me so quick and end this day just makes you look worse in my eyes.

[Gorkington]

:/
i hope keyser's around tomorrow.
id like to condense with him.

@aero, can you talk with me about snarkysnowman?
is there any reason hes sitting at null for you?

[Aeronaut]

I just don't know how to read him. I feel like he may be coasting with that claim of his.

[Aeronaut]

And it's also possible that he's a scum hated.

[TheTrollie]

Here's the thing:

IF Camn is scum...
Trollie is scum.

i cannot stand Tyco RC right now.
Has not made any sense at all since the beginning of this dayphase

[Keyser Söze]

Back to my D1 scum-read of RadiantCowbells:

Spoiler: Scum read

I feel a great disturbance in the Force: RadiantCowbells

VOTE: Camn

Start talking, sweet cheeks.

This is not a RVS vote. This feels like RadiantCowbells with an ulterior motive (aka scum finding an awkward entrance into the game via a player).

Wagon on Tails is sketchy.

How can RadiantCowbells hold this position by post 17?

Continuation with the latch-onto-camn narrative:

Camn needs to post more, pronto.

Again, camn?

Camn, do you ever roll town?

I think Camn is scum but I know that you're scum.

Moves vote to Aeronaut:

VOTE: Aeronaut

Camn, should I not find it odd and scummy that you are unwilling to engage me here when I'd expect the first thing you'd do as town is to engage me?

It almost feels like you suggested that you be bussed in pregame but your team was on the fence about it so you guys decided that you'd stay away from me while you get your team to pressure me and lock me down.

And that's exactly what Aeronaut feels like he's doing.

I expect you to talk with me! jeez.

Camn finally posts:

I'm just hungover!
God!

Well, fine.

After all this 'theatre' RadiantCowbells is now happy with camn's simple "I'm just hungover!" explanation.

Camn, I think that you're town.

Besides the fact that she didn't immediately engage with me, she's been actually pretty towny, which makes me think that she's town.

This isn't a player simply changing his read (non-alignment indicative)... this is RadiantCowbells with a manufactured entrance and fake read, which inevitably ends with a predictable town-read on camn (reasons?>>>

"actually pretty towny, which makes me think that she's town"

= generic/easy town read).

VOTE: RadiantCowbells

If camn flips scum, does RadiantCowbells entrance into the game make him scum or town?

- Does scum-RadiantCowbells make an awkward entry into the game, with a uncomfortable scum-read/town-read flip-flop on his scum-partner?

The change from having a scum-read to town-read was

too easy

.

However, if we flip this round - why would scum-RadiantCowbells want to draw associations with scum-camn so early?

[Keyser Söze]

Here's the thing:

IF Camn is scum...
Trollie is scum.

No. Scum-TheTrollie does not make a bus-play

on D2

If TheTrollie is telling the truth about the Snoke/Kylo Ren investigation, scum-TheTrollie would not bus

(probably) the most powerful

scum role in the game.

[Keyser Söze]

Let me sort some of this out

Waiting...

I'm going to have to look over this. Will post soon.

Waiting...

RC is probably scum if camn is scum, I think. I'm pretty sure they both have the same alignment.

How did you get to

"probably scum"

and

"scum"

?
Show me

"I'm pretty sure they both have the same alignment."

What are your thoughts on Aeronaut?

[Keyser Söze]

IF Camn is scum...
Trollie is scum.

neat.
if i catch up and disagree im gonna have words for you.

you should probably talk about why your terrifically confident meta-read on her earlygame has devolved into "well here is this relation between these two players" because that seems very un-RC-esque of you.

I like this alot.

This is RadiantCowbells shitting on TheTrollie's GUILTY-investigation (he wants us to keep our attention focused on his indirect-"guilty" of Aeronaut and not on TheTrollie/camn):

I don't give a flying fuck who confirmed what.

He could be your partner planning to push a mislynch then say that there was obviously a framer as some shit. I'm not going to be a part of this shit.

I put myself first.

No.

I think it's plenty likely that

scum decided to throw a fake guilty

and hope that they could NK and have Aero talk his way out.

We lynch Aero today.

Your bud threw out a fake guilty

.
Stahp, you're scum. You're not a beloved anything.

I have no idea what's going on with the Camn guilty thing but I frankly don't trust it at all

.
If we don't lynch Aeronaut today, then when?

You think Trollie is my buddy?

Thats a silly thought.

Letting you live is a silly thought.

No.

Fuck off venmar.

We are lynching Aeronaut today; no questions

.

Thus, this is RadiantCowbells:
- discrediting TheTrollie
- scum-reading TheTrollie
- trying to keep the focus on his NOT TOWN guilty result on Aeronaut


However...

Gorkington enters the scene, talking alot of sense...

Support/trust grows for TheTrollie... (camn and Aeronaut are todays' definitive lynches)

RadiantCowbells senses the tide is turning...

he needs to change his position:

Here's the thing:

IF Camn is scum...
Trollie is scum.

[Keyser Söze]

Jesus, Trollie.

It is a given that I am not scum.
You throwing around the word "confirmed" doesn't change that, from my perspective.
And someone calling me scum is not really worth refuting.
OTOH, saying that you got mod-provided info about data I received in the night? THAT is worth setting the record straight about .
This outburst, though? Either you are town after all, and just totally misinformed. . . or Aero's partner, and desperately chainsawing. If you had real results, there are certainly actual protown ways to handle them, but that's for postgame.

I do not understand this

"meh"

reaction.

TheTrollie is calling you scum. He says he has results on you. Why are you not challenging him with pressure? He's either lying or telling the truth. You were more passionate/enthusiastic pushing his lynch on Day One


If someone fakes a guilty on me I would be like this (tearing their case apart):





But this is you right now:

[Gorkington]

something fun:
scum having an investigative role that determines townvsantitown makes sense in this setup.
especially if there are actually five antitowns [and since there was a traitor].

venmar is maybe town.
snarky might be third party but i dont think hes groupscum.
keyser is town.
im town.
two town flips.

that leaves camn, lonewolf and rc for the remaining 3 antitowns with a maybe outside chance of snarky being some kind of third party.

anen's reasoning for lonewolf being town isnt convincing. a scum neighbor with the same fakeclaim as a town neighbor is literally the most reasonable thing.
lonewolf coasting on it is bad.

im pretty sure we win if we lynch the above pile. probably in that order too.

[Gorkington]

though really, i guess my hangup with snarky kind of applies to anyone if third party is a concern. lolol.

oh fuck i just remembered eagle.
he needs to talk more before i can be happy with a lynchpile :c

[Extrapolated Eagle]

Lonewolf venmar p much conftown imo

[Extrapolated Eagle]

Gorkington is weird and says too many buddy buddy things but weird doesn't always mean bad I guess. There are bad people.

I'm seeing keys stance on RC and that makes me more likely to think he's scum, I guess, I admit I'm still kinda on the "kill aero thingy"

Key is town btw.
Umm trollie is saying things I said after I said them but explaining them in ways someone who was just copying me would so he's town (also what scum would echo me, lol)

I don't like camn at the moment for all reasons already mentioned

I don't like aero cuz all he's done is lie

[Extrapolated Eagle]

I kind of want to flip camn because she seems most indicative of most people (rc trollie and aero by extension, I guess) and I'm curious why rc is trying so hard to protect her.


But on the other hand aero is a lot safer lynch I think and it could be I'm an idiot and second guessing rc is a bad idea.

UNVOTE:

I will examine more closely and get back tonight

[Keyser Söze]

...moreover, RadiantCowbells was adamant scum were throwing out a fake-guilty on camn (RadiantCowbells was playing the 'I've got a NOT TOWN guilty' PR card) even though RadiantCowbells wasn't even a 'cop'. I could understand town-paranoia if Radiant Cowbells actually had a cop-investigative role (i.e a counter-claim scenario versus TheTrollie) - thus, RadiantCowbells should have shown less resistance/opposition to TheTrollie's claims. The only thing he wanted was Aeronaut to die ASAP (the Serial Killer, an enemy to both town AND group scum).

[Gorkington]

Lonewolf

venmar

p much conftown imo

words please.

[Gorkington]

says too many buddy buddy things

buddying is fun.

[Gorkington]

also hold up, was rc fakeclaiming a guilty on aero or what?
am i missing something?

[Keyser Söze]

also hold up, was rc fakeclaiming a guilty on aero or what?
am i missing something?

RadiantCowbells' first claim (cop-type):

Aero is not town aligned.

VOTE: Aeronaut

well you're not town so you're either scum or 3p.

RadiantCowbells' final claim (tracker):

Nope, you killed Tails.

No, I'm saying that I tracked you to the dead guy.

And you claimed a non visiting role.

[TheTrollie]

we can lynch aero so i can stay alive till tomorrow if everyone is happy to do that?

[Gorkington]

:/
rc.

[Gorkington]

yeah rc scumclaimed.
if aero is sk he didnt target tails.