(1765) Star Wars: The Force Awakens [D5]

[RadiantCowbells]

Camn, ask yourself this; why does RC care about seeing a claim if he already had a guilty on me?

Enough of this dumb posturing.

[Aeronaut]

RC, who are your other scum reads?

[RadiantCowbells]

The ones that I don't have guilties on?

[Keyser Söze]

Aero is not town aligned.

VOTE: Aeronaut

I have a guilty on you.

I have seen both town and scum RadiantCowbells fake a guilty result - but this is usually when his back is against the wall or he is being ignored. Does scum-RadiantCowbells make this play now? It doesn't matter, we have guaranteed scum in RadiantCowbells/Aeronaut.

VOTE: Aeronaut

I believe that is L-1.

[5: RadiantCowbells, TheLoneWolf, Extrapolated Eagle, camn, Keyser Söze]

VOTE: camn

Static scum discussion points.

Cool. Camn is conftown imo now.

How can you rule out scum-distancing? (Please note: I currently town-read camn).

A few posts later...

VOTE: camn

I fucked up. I thought Camn was town.

Camn is scum. Camn & partner were told my role in their results last night and now I need a protective role on me tonight.

Why did you investigate your town-read...?

Camn is town.

Reck likes to screw with people. I wouldn't be surprised to see a number of non-normal elements in this game.

@xRECKONERx

- are bastard results possible in this set-up?

Dont care. I back townies.

Do you back your 'town-reads', or do you back "townies"?

[Extrapolated Eagle]

VOTE: camn

Static scum discussion points.

Cool. Camn is conftown imo now.

How can you rule out scum-distancing? (Please note: I currently town-read camn).

Didn't look, feel like it. Seems subopt for them at the time.

[xRECKONERx]

Aeronaut (5): RadiantCowbells, TheLoneWolf, Extrapolated Eagle, camn, Keyser Söze
RadiantCowbells (1): Aeronaut
Venmar
TheTrollie
The Bulge
Extrapolated Eagle
TheLoneWolf
SnarkySnowman
Keyser Söze
camn (1): TheTrollie

Not voting: Venmar, The Bulge, SnarkySnowman

Deadline is in (expired on 2016-03-13 22:00:00).

[TheTrollie]

EVERYONE SHUT THE FUCK UP AND SOMEONE UNVOTE AERO RIGHT NOW

I DONT GIVE A FLYING FUCK IF THERE IS A CLAIMED GUILTY ON HIM.

WE HAVE 2 SEPARATE CLAIMS AND WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT THEM BEFORE WE LYNCH ONE OF THEM ON PAGE 2 OF THE DAY WITHOUT EVERYONE WEIGHING IN.

I AM 90% DEAD TONIGHT UNLESS THERE IS ANOTHER PROTECTIVE ROLE IN THE GAME SO WE ALL NEED TO STOP THIS QUICKLYNCH RIGHT THE FUCK NOW AND

TALK ABOUT SHIT

[xRECKONERx]

@xRECKONERx - are bastard results possible in this set-up?

This is not a bastard game, no.

[TheTrollie]

let me make sure someone sees that

SOMEONE UNVOTE AERO

EVEN IF HES SCUM WE ARE NOT MISSING THE OPPORTUNITY TO TALK THIS OUT

[TheTrollie]

i dont have time today for this. literally can consider me

v/la until tomorrow

so fix this and in case you fools fuck this up what I can say right now is that I have an investigative role and if I investigate certain scum, two members of the scum team are told my role and identity.

I got a guilty on camn and was told that he and one of his scum partners now know my role and identity.

I investigated camn BECAUSE i had a town read on him, so I thought I would enter the day with conftown and no one knowing my role

I was wrong.

NOW, I do not want to run camn up, because apparently there is another guilty result.

but get aero off of L-1

[TheTrollie]

Ok, just this and then i HAVE TO GET OFF FOR THE DAY.

You can stop pretending that I'm fakeclaiming this guilty and start dying.

Honestly, I am 50/50 on this being a fakeclaim. RC brings up fakeclaiming first. Also note that if scum, RC probably knows I'm about to come in here and claim a result on Camn. I think that would be a really really big gambit but It's possible. More likely this is real or a totally fake claim, but I'm not sure why he wouldnt be letting up then when i have CONFIRMED SCUM and not CONFIRMED NOT TOWN.

VOTE: RC

Yea, you don't have a guilty, because

A) My role PM is town
and
B) Why ask me to claim if you really had a guilty on me in the first place? Piss off.

This sounds pretty good to me honestly. Aero is, in general, doing a good job with this whether hes pulling out of his ass or not.

anyone have experience with aero under the gun?

I know we have more protective roles so I'll take jailkeeper on me.

Thanks in advance you won't regret it

how does he know and why jailkeeper. this is sketchy as fuck. That being said, I need a protective role on me as scum knows my actual role and ID. I would obviously rather no jailkeeper but itll do.

Ok, here's something else that doesn't make sense to me, RC.

You've been spending your time concerning yourself with whether you think I'm a third party or a group scum; you keep saying that you'd rather lynch group scum. Even that if I had rolled a 3P role, you would consider not lynching me quite yet. Fine, fair.


But then, Trollie comes in here

confirming Camn as group scum

. Why on earth wouldn't you take that lynch over me, if you really were doing what you said you were doing?

YES. what i said above. (note, im not defending Aero, i just want us to NOT QUICKLYNCH TODAY)

I have a guilty on you.
You can play 'pretend that RC is just fakeclaiming' all you want but I have a guilty on you.
I don't understand why you think that you're worming your way out of this.

See, here's the thing though;

You don't.

It's impossible.


So you're either scum, or just really, really arrogant town who thinks they can fake that sort of shit. And I really, really hate it when people do that, so if you're town I'm going to lose my shit in postgame.

again, i think this is really good.

Not sure what I am reading here... Two Cop claims? Seems like a lot of cops. But I'm with Cowbells on this...

VOTE: Aeronaut

UGH, DUHHHH, since the other cop is claiming you scum.

Also, trollie is incorrect about me hearing anything about him last night. My first instinct is lying scum.... But that seems too bold. Maybe busdriven?
In any event, I don't know his role.

note that (a) he doesnt say "im not scum" he says "i didnt hear anything from him last night" (b) who the fuck cares if he heard anythign or not, doesnt change my guilty result

BAI

[Keyser Söze]

UNVOTE: Aeronaut

[TheTrollie]

thnx

tty tomorrow fellas and madams

[Keyser Söze]

Why is your vote not on camn, TheTrollie?

A guilty is a guilty.

[xRECKONERx]

Going to clarify something: this game is not bastard by traditional definitions. However, Amihan's traitor role had a mechanic which allowed himto "defect" and join town under certain conditions. I felt this fit the flavor of Finn from the movie. In the end, Finn did not defect and died a traitor. I just wanted to clarify that when I say the game is not bastard, I am not considering Finn's role bastard under any circumstances.

[Keyser Söze]

Why is your vote not on camn, TheTrollie?

A guilty is a guilty.

VOTE: camn

My bad

[camn]

Jesus, Trollie.

It is a given that I am not scum.
You throwing around the word "confirmed" doesn't change that, from my perspective.
And someone calling me scum is not really worth refuting.
OTOH, saying that you got mod-provided info about data I received in the night? THAT is worth setting the record straight about .
This outburst, though? Either you are town after all, and just totally misinformed. . . or Aero's partner, and desperately chainsawing. If you had real results, there are certainly actual protown ways to handle them, but that's for postgame.

Speaking of questionable townplay, Cowbells certainly has fakeclaimed as town before. This doesn't feel like that though, and I I would rather test his results than push for a Cowbells fullclaim. That's more optimal.

[Aeronaut]

Going to clarify something: this game is not bastard by traditional definitions. However, Amihan's traitor role had a mechanic which allowed himto "defect" and join town under certain conditions. I felt this fit the flavor of Finn from the movie. In the end, Finn did not defect and died a traitor. I just wanted to clarify that when I say the game is not bastard, I am not considering Finn's role bastard under any circumstances.

That's a really cool mechanic for that flavor Reck!

Jesus, Trollie.

It is a given that I am not scum.
You throwing around the word "confirmed" doesn't change that, from my perspective.
And someone calling me scum is not really worth refuting.

This is pretty much what I'm saying. RC faking that is really sketch, and honestly makes me think he found out the implications of me being lynched. It seems to me like he may have a scum PR that understands roles instead of alignments, and found out my role and what happens if a lynch goes through on me.

Now most people as scum probably wouldn't try to fake a guilty, but this is Radiant "I don't give a flying fuck what you say" Cowbells. I have a feeling (and it seems like a pretty RC move) that he probably decided he could fake that guilty on me, and just talk his way out of it tomorrow, because that's sort of what RC does.

[Aeronaut]

Ok, I'm gonna claim now, though, because that L-1 was too close.

I'm

General Leia Organa

;
If I die, then the town skips a day, and there's two nights in a row. I think I'm essentially a Beloved Princess, if anyone knows what that is.

When I get the map,

it reverses; I can send the mod a message and we get two days in a row.

[TheLoneWolf]

Send the mod a message?

Seems awkward.

[Aeronaut]

So yea, if you lynch me, either way you'll get one scum between RC and I. However, its also gonna be two nights in a row with possibly two kills; If the setup is really something like 8:4:1 like RC says, depending on what happens to the third party, it'd honestly possible we're endgamed tomorrow.

[TheLoneWolf]

whatever, camn is scum by play anyway and Eagle's deduction that she's town is complete bullshit.

Unvote:
Vote: camn

[TheLoneWolf]

For the record Aero is still probscum I just feel like getting camn's fakeclaim too

[Keyser Söze]

If I die, then the town skips a day, and there's two nights in a row.

xRECKONERx, you are evil. 5 scum

plus

this

anti-town PR?



There is too much risk in the Aeronaut lynch.

We go here for D2: VOTE: camn

[RadiantCowbells]

Ok, I'm gonna claim now, though, because that L-1 was too close.

I'm

General Leia Organa

;
If I die, then the town skips a day, and there's two nights in a row. I think I'm essentially a Beloved Princess, if anyone knows what that is.

When I get the map,

it reverses; I can send the mod a message and we get two days in a row.

Liar.

We're lynching him today.