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Post Post #250 (ISO) » Sun Sep 30, 2007 1:34 pm

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Guardian wrote:no hammer.
You have no idea how much I want to, and would if I wasn't afraid of you being his lyncher.
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Post Post #251 (ISO) » Sun Sep 30, 2007 1:36 pm

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you *are* voting him.

I can't be his lyncher -- I just didn't hammer him. That's why I posted "no hammer"

......
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Post Post #252 (ISO) » Sun Sep 30, 2007 1:37 pm

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JDodge wrote:
Guardian wrote:d3sisted... the game is nightless.

I want jdodge lynched because I think he is very likely to be scum. Kerplunk is a good second choice for me, but I slightly fear him jdodge's lyncher.
GUESS WHO ISN'T GIVING REASONING

OH THE IRONY
And I can give reasoning upon request -- you keeping your vote on him while attacking Sammich, and your keeping your vote on him while refusing to give any reasons whatsoever that he might be anti-town -- both are very suspicious.

I will consider voting Kerplunk... but I am happy with my vote for now.
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Post Post #253 (ISO) » Sun Sep 30, 2007 1:38 pm

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HAY I READ THE VOTE COUNT WRONG!
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Post Post #254 (ISO) » Sun Sep 30, 2007 1:39 pm

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We caught our lyncher. Guardian, just hammer him and get it over with.
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Post Post #255 (ISO) » Sun Sep 30, 2007 1:45 pm

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I'm not interested in hammering until Crub responds to my question. Him answering is useful regardless of Kerplunk's alignment, and I want to hear before Kerplunk dies, not after.

Also, I'd like to hear Kerplunk and Sammich weigh in.


Even then, I'm not convinced that Kerplunk isn't Jdodge's lynchee :|.
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Post Post #256 (ISO) » Sun Sep 30, 2007 9:25 pm

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I just did a random re-skim.

The hypocrisy d3sisted exhibited in telling Sammich that he "sucked" "QFT QFT!" and now making the exact same 'mistake' in forgetting that this game is nightless is striking.


Crub looks scummier on re-read than I'd thought. I'd really like to hear from him.
Jdodge - most likely to be anti-town. not helping us at all; we can't evaluate him if he doesn't give reasons, and his refusal to let us evaluate the validity of his suspicions is scummy.
Kerplunk - most likely to be scum. lots of weird things here and there.
Crub - lurking now, hasn't demonstrated a high level of reasoning behind his votes, wagon hopper
d3sisted - hypocrite... either very skillful mafia member, or not mafia. I don't see mafia forgetting that this was nightless, no matter how much they "sucked". could definitely be lyncher, though :?.
Sammich - most likely to be town. schis seemed pretty town after initial suspect action, and no change here.


oh, and here's what we know about lyncher targets (is this correct?)
Kerplunk & d3sisted are not Jdodge's lyncher
I am not Kerplunk's lyncher
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Post Post #257 (ISO) » Mon Oct 01, 2007 3:58 am

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Guardian wrote:I'm not interested in hammering until Crub responds to my question. Him answering is useful regardless of Kerplunk's alignment, and I want to hear before Kerplunk dies, not after.

Also, I'd like to hear Kerplunk and Sammich weigh in.
Right now...

Crub-More posts nao or I'll go MeMe on your ass and lurkerlynch you. D<

Kerplunk- Come on. You're not being helpful at all. You're at L1 and still nothing doing.

JDodge- Be more smart. Caps abuse becomes annoying after a while.

d3sisted- Stop being so mean. But then again, you seem ultra aggressive advocating a Kerplunk hammer.
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Post Post #258 (ISO) » Mon Oct 01, 2007 5:22 am

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Sorry guys, I have no time right now to defend myself. All i can say is that I am innocent.
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Post Post #259 (ISO) » Mon Oct 01, 2007 8:14 am

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When will you get time to defend yourself?

Who are your current suspects (aside from me(?)), and more importantly,
why
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Post Post #260 (ISO) » Mon Oct 01, 2007 8:41 am

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Kerplunk wrote:Sorry guys, I have no time right now to defend myself. All i can say is that I am innocent.
No, don't give me that.
Although I see your post in the vacations/absences thread, you've got to be at least more helpful.
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Post Post #261 (ISO) » Mon Oct 01, 2007 11:03 am

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Guardian wrote:When will you get time to defend yourself?

Who are your current suspects (aside from me(?)), and more importantly,
why
?
Tomorrow morning. GMT-time.

I will reread the WHOLE - yeah you read that right - thread and give a very detailed post in which I will out *them* all.
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Post Post #262 (ISO) » Mon Oct 01, 2007 2:44 pm

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So is that a townie claim?

Meh, I look forward to you7r pbpa.
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Post Post #263 (ISO) » Mon Oct 01, 2007 3:56 pm

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Sorry guys I have been away.
I actually thought I had posted in this thread before I went away, so sorry again.
In response to Guardian's question. Of course it's possible that Kerplunk is scum, but I think it's minor compared to the chance that he's the lyncher.
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Post Post #264 (ISO) » Mon Oct 01, 2007 4:00 pm

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Why? Explain!
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Post Post #265 (ISO) » Mon Oct 01, 2007 5:02 pm

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I just think his play over the first few pages were very lyncher centric and in particular very schis lynch centric. I got the impression that he was trying overly hard to give the impression that he was not the lyncher.
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Post Post #266 (ISO) » Mon Oct 01, 2007 6:50 pm

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Ok. Noted. I buy it, I think.

I am waiting for Kerplunk's analysis, but if it isn't good, I think he is a good alternative to Jdodge.
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Post Post #267 (ISO) » Mon Oct 01, 2007 11:04 pm

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God, rereading a whole thread is hard...

I am finding it difficult to analyse this game. I have read the whole thread again. I am shamed to say that I played like shit. My sincere apologies.

Guardian has been the most active player in this game. Has constistently said the last few days that JDodge is his target. I don't trust him. Difficult to say why. Hasn't voted a lot in this game if I remember correctly. Lyncher?

d3sisted made the strange mistake that he put Crub at L-1 and saying that it was a random vote. He thought that the game had more players than 6.

Crub is probably not the lyncher for his posts in the beginning of the game. He was genuine when that he thought I was the lyncher. I find it difficult to find something scummy about him. Seems prot-town to me.

JDodge strange thing on early Day 1 was he thought me being the lyncher, but didn't want to tell why. *sigh* And then he doesn't know who my supposedly target is. Strange, isn't it? But is he therefore the lyncher or scum?

Sammich made the mistake when he came that he voted for a no lynch, which is ofcourse utterly insane in a nightless game. What does this mean?

Okay, this analysis sucks. I am sorry, but this is the best I can do. Don't think I can avert my lynch but here are my suspicoins list for later days:


JDodge: Scum (just can't see him as town)
Guardian: Lyncher (mainly because I think he is not in a team with JDodge)
The other scum: d3sisted or Sammich. Difficult.

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Post Post #268 (ISO) » Tue Oct 02, 2007 4:30 am

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Sammich wrote:Sammich made the mistake when he came that he voted for a no lynch, which is ofcourse utterly insane in a nightless game. What does this mean?
Yeah um, explained already.
JDodge
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suggested I get some logic and read the wiki, which I did afterward. This is the first game I was in, actually, because the Newbie queue was all slow and stupid.

Pretty interesting on what you think about Guardian.
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Post Post #269 (ISO) » Tue Oct 02, 2007 5:46 am

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unvote
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I don't like how after I'm like "kerplunk or jdodge" keplunk votes jdodge.

I'll place my vote back probably, after I get a chance to think this over. Leaning that y'all are right and Kerplunk is not town :?.
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Post Post #270 (ISO) » Tue Oct 02, 2007 5:54 am

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I find it interesting that as soon as Kerplunk puts me at -1, Guardian backs off while trying to seem like he isn't actually backing off, especially since he's been pushing rather hard for my lynch the past few pages
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Post Post #271 (ISO) » Tue Oct 02, 2007 5:57 am

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......

I have
0 tolerance
for people using my hesitance/wanting to make a good decision as a "scum tell". Especially coming from someone whose schtick as of recent has been "there are no universal scum tells".


vote: Jdodge
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"Seem like I'm not backing off" -- my ass.
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Post Post #272 (ISO) » Tue Oct 02, 2007 8:35 am

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Okay, reread time.
From page one: Random Voteage. Guardian makes a random vote post and begins to act serious. He claims that he has "a 3/5 chance of hitting scum day one." And says not to get mislynched and basically whatever everyone wants to do and blah blah blah. He then nails Kerplunk with the random vote. Schis random votes Guardian for writing too much, and JDodge is all snide and being all JDodge-like.

Page Two: Schis acts defensive and pulls a JDodge over on Kerplunk after he says "What?" Crub is defensive on Schis' part. Guardian votes Schis, in agreement with Kerplunk, but soon after unvotes and sticks to a simple FOS. SV does nothing and is prodded. SV replies. Schis votes JDodge for IMO no exact reason. Keplunk votes Schis. Guardian and Keplunk have a brief discussion for a moment before it is realized SV won't be playing.

Page Three: Kerplunk admits he would BW someone. Crub says he's afraid of a Schis-lyncher situation. Guardian votes Schis. Crub, IMO, OMGUS votes JDodge for accusing him of lurking, but then not GODDAMNIT MY COMPUTER DELETED WHAT I WAS TYPING I'LL GET BACK TO THIS.

Really, what I'm seeing is this from lyncher info:
Guardian- I thought he was town, although he was quick to slam JDodge back on the hammering block after JDodge makes a post accusing him of backing off. Seems bleary now, although I still get a town vibe from him, but by all means, has been advocating a JDodge lynch for a while now.

Keplunk- Finally, more content from him. Looking back, didn't make an all-star analyzation, but originally puts JDodge at L-1. Personally, I don't feel him being lyncher
at all.


d3sisted- Maybe Kerplunk lyncher, maybe scum. Couldn't see him as town. Not so hot about him pressuring Guardian to hammer Kerplunk.

JDodge- I think he's not lyncher, but scum. Scum along with maybe d3sisted. They have not really gone against each other the whole game.

I'm happy with my vote on JDodge.
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Post Post #273 (ISO) » Tue Oct 02, 2007 8:42 am

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Guardian wrote:......

I have
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for people using my hesitance/wanting to make a good decision as a "scum tell". Especially coming from someone whose schtick as of recent has been "there are no universal scum tells".


vote: Jdodge
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"Seem like I'm not backing off" -- my ass.
Funny how you get all defensive when I call you on it.

Also note how Sammich conveniently leaves Crub out of his analysis.
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Post Post #274 (ISO) » Tue Oct 02, 2007 9:49 am

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JDodge wrote:Also note how Sammich conveniently leaves Crub out of his analysis.
Lol.
I said lyncher info. I don't find Crub lyncher at all.
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