(1765) Star Wars: The Force Awakens [D5]

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Unvote
Vote: Trollie

That's what I was thinking.

RC, you need to change your vote to Trollie.

Oh?

Fine.

VOTE: Trollie

VOTE: Radiant Cowbells

VOTE: RadiantCowbells

Wassup!

Hello!

Oh nothing, just the end of the world!

*laugh track*

Oh, hey! Have you done your research?

This is so out of place for you as town.

the fuck is pre-game talk?

Unvote
Vote: Trollie

Wait-oh.
That concept was in the latest PM. If that should confirm anything at all, it's that Trollie has NO access to any pre-game talks.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Tails

This is incomplete logic. You should follow it through to tails PoV but you know this, so you're probably the other scum.

Get everybody and their stuff together

ok

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VOTE: Tails

Wow lots of bad votes.

Going back here:

That concept was in the latest PM. If that should confirm anything at all, it's that Trollie has NO access to any pre-game talks.

I'm not sure it confirms anything regarding TheTrollie - in my eyes it's pure WIFOM atm.

And I'm sure his getting an extra vote to put him in the lead had nothing to do with it...

Can I have names here please - are you saying 'scum' are already consciously defending/counter-attacking on page one?

That's actually relatively common. I mean it's that, ignore them, or vote for them.

Rock, paper, scissors, right?

Why did this have to start on such a busy weekend...

There's not much I want to say before reading other than that I'm town so that's boring but good! And Tails' avatar is really cool, I didn't know gifs were possible.

It didn't start, it's pregame.

There is a lot to say though, this is actually maybe closer to an actual slip. :/

VOTE: Amihan

Pretty much everyone who claims town in the first two pages turns out to be scum, in my experience.

Maybe. She did have a scary post.

VOTE: Aeninen

This is the other good place to go.

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Screw you all I did was state opinions.

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Whatever I should be used to it by now.

Look at the freaking post, dude. Do I have to write my thoughts out in plain and simple terms? Are you like not capable of reading something and drawing a correlation between the word "nasty" and "scummy"?


PEdit have you played with him before? I thought he was just being dense, but if you think he's looking for lynchbait at least explain why?

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Screw you all I did was state opinions.

Whatever I should be used to it by now.

Look at the freaking post, dude. Do I have to write my thoughts out in plain and simple terms? Are you like not capable of reading something and drawing a correlation between the word "nasty" and "scummy"?


PEdit have you played with him before? I thought he was just being dense, but if you think he's looking for lynchbait at least explain why?

This is kind of an overreation to one vote.

Sorry, but your post just seems to be really generic/fence-sitty to me. All those opinions, and by the end i just felt like you had said what had already been said by a lot of people.

Not an overreaction to a vote, a justified reaction to being misrepped. You don't think you're misrepping me? Then why are you backtracking right now?

Sorry I don't take kindly to being lied about even if it wasn't intentional.

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You seriously went from "has no opinions" to "has opinions only stated by others" Backtrack much?

1. I'm going to have opinions that other people have because we share an alignment and I was V/LA for the first two days of the game.

2. Anyways, please quote every time my opinion has already been stated by someone else and then share your read on that person.

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VOTE: Aeninen

Show me how you got there.

RC, you need to change your vote to Trollie.

Fine.

VOTE: Trollie

VOTE: Radiant Cowbells

Explain this vote here please - do you think scum-RadiantCowbells was pressured/too easily persuaded into voting TheTrollie by Tails? (note: it was page one, it was RVS).

This wasn't an RVS vote, though. It was a vote based off of another post. I admit I kind of cheated and looked ahead and saw RCs next post, but either way neither of these posts are RC town posts. It was opportunistic and nasty-it read like he didn't feel like voting trollie but did so to avoid attack or having to take a stance.

Wow lots of bad votes.

Tell me what a bad vote is during early Day One play. No one should be in a position to say whether one vote is categorically good or bad - challenge that person's opinion (do not post an unexplained position). Is Tails town, Extrapolated Eagle?

It should be easily inferrable that I think tails is town and RC is scum. But you know, people apparently like to just read the freaking surface of stuff, I guess.


You're kind of right. In a regular game there is no such thing as a bad vote on the first few pages but that's when it's rvs. The votes on tails aren't RVS and if RC was town I assure you there would be quite a fewer(is that a term) number of votes on him. Like after what tails posted he shouldn't be under wagon pressure atm.

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@aero sorry I blew up last night.

Things you can gather from my post: (stances you should have easily taken away)
I like Tails, he's my strongest town lean atm
I liked the bulge for his vote on aneninen
Trollie started nasty but he's a bit nullish compared to how bad some people look
RC is way out of place probably scum this game
Amihan did a similar thing to trollie and no one jumped on her for it, more likely to be scum there
I liked key a little bit, he's the town side of nullish
Snowman is probably maybe town as well

Update since then: I can see where RC is coming from on aero, he feels really weird

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@aero no I don't think you're scum together. I was just saying you feel a bit weird to me as well, but nowhere near weird enough to be called scum, I don't think

RC, you need to change your vote to Trollie.

Fine.

VOTE: Trollie

VOTE: Radiant Cowbells

Explain this vote here please - do you think scum-RadiantCowbells was pressured/too easily persuaded into voting TheTrollie by Tails? (note: it was page one, it was RVS).[/quote]
This wasn't an RVS vote, though. It was a vote based off of another post. I admit I kind of cheated and looked ahead and saw RCs next post, but either way neither of these posts are RC town posts. It was opportunistic and nasty-it read like he didn't feel like voting trollie but did so to avoid attack or having to take a stance.[/quote]

I really don't see how you got there. Do you really think scum RC feels intimidated by little ol' me?[/quote]
No I think RC made this move because it's what he thinks we would think he would do as town and failed to carry it out as gracefully as intended. I don't think it has Mich to do with you at all.

The votes on tails aren't RVS and if RC was town I assure you there would be quite a fewer(is that a term) number of votes on him. Like after what tails posted he shouldn't be under wagon pressure atm.

I really hate the logic of "RC is scum because there's a wagon on him". RC is going to have a wagon on him regardless of alignment.

Sorry I'm saying because there's a wagon on you RC is more likely to be scum. I'm not sure there even is a wagon on RC atm

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Crap. The second part of that was for tails, sorry I messed up vote tags

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Amihan did a similar thing to trollie and no one jumped on her for it, more likely to be scum there

Tell me how he did something similar. I don't recall them being in the same ballpark.

Both missed out on the pregame talk concept- ami made a statement about the game starting when it hadn't officially done so and also said there wasn't much to respond to... O.o...

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the fuck is pre-game talk?

I had to check what you all were talking about, and seeing as this is this only post I have no idea why everyone thought this was so scummy. It's a reasonable thought coming literally right out of the day 1 starting PM.

It's because everyone else got a PM with pregame talk in it so the first thought is that he didn't so he must be scum.

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Yes. Yes it is. But it's something, I guess? *shrugs* I'm not them. Could you share thoughts on key, pls? He's kind of hard for me to read atm.

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Vote: Eagle

VOTE: Camn

Start talking, sweet cheeks.

the fuck is pre-game talk?

These are the first three posts in the game. Pre-game chatter was not mentioned prior to Trollie's post. He's obviously directly referencing the PM.

And why would the mod send scum a different day start PM from town? He'd probably just copy a full player list of names when PMing people. No extra effort.

This is really basic.

The mod also mentioned pre-game talk in his pm before trolllie posted. That's the post you missed.

Amihan is actually p town

I'm trying to figure out why she still feels off to me. :/

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The only thing that makes me feel strange about trollie is the fact that he has been absent

PEdit: in the second post I said PM and meant post.

The mod said pregame in his post before the game started

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Everyone has confirmed.

Pre-game talk will last another (expired on 2016-02-21 22:31:53).

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline is (expired on 2016-03-06 22:00:00).

There

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Post != hard to read
Person = posts much and still nullish leaning town on him = not as easy to read

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Anyways the point wasn't that you're hard to read. I feel okish about you as town for the moment, I was trying to get reads out of ami and maybe a response that helped me baseline them for how they react so I could read them better

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Because atm I feel weird about them even though they look town to my brain

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Whatever. Screw it.

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Whatever. Screw it.

I can't get words to come out of my mouth in a way that makes sense this morning

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Not you. I was trying to use you to read ami.

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I use too many words

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I use too many words

What did you mean by this?

I mean you I spend so much time trying to explain that I either convolute the original idea even more or I use so many words that it gets looked over as a wall.

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Catching up the rest of the way in a minute

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Good chance Eagle is scum here. He's not engaging at the level I expect him to.

Sorry, I've been camping and then at work. But.. umm.. do I know you?

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If that should confirm anything at all, it's that Trollie has NO access to any pre-game talks.

^^^
Still troubled with this...

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I think it's inexperience falling for the fake town slip. He really didn't take the time to think about it, which points to town. (Oh look, I explained a read...)

Are you talking about aneninen here?

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the fuck is pre-game talk?

Unvote
Vote: Trollie

Wait-oh.
That concept was in the latest PM. If that should confirm anything at all, it's that Trollie has NO access to any pre-game talks.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Tails

That was an interesting turn. I don't like the explanation here, seems like people should be up to date if everyone got this.

Still happy with my vote and I think that it's far more likely that he was faking a townslip than actually made one.

Do you think so?

Trollie is a 2012 account with modding experience. There's no way he doesn't know what pre-game talk is. Lone Wolf is probably his partner. If he did have meta with Trollie, I would expect him just to let RC know, not let him know and then vote him. Sounds like someone's getting a little too protective.

Ah-ha!
That makes Trollie's post FoS at best. (I've never played with him before.)
As for LoneWolf, he may have been joking.

On another note, RC and Anen are town. Aero can also be town for s's and g's.

Isn't that conclusion is a bit too fast?

Damn caught on page 1....

Sorry Trollie

Now I'm almost sure that he was joking.

UNVOTE:

Let the others talk too.

You aren't aggressive this game. Why not?

VOTE: Amihan
Pretty much everyone who claims town in the first two pages turns out to be scum, in my experience.

I have no observation like that, but this is the page top of the THIRD page, so NOW I can say that I'm town.

TROLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!

You seemed town until the last line. I don't see you being superfluous with your words very often in the last town game.

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UNVOTE:

I'm nullish on RC now, actually, I agree with him in a few places, just curious as to why he seems to be ignoring me.

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If that should confirm anything at all, it's that Trollie has NO access to any pre-game talks.

^^^
Still troubled with this...

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I think it's inexperience falling for the fake town slip. He really didn't take the time to think about it, which points to town. (Oh look, I explained a read...)

Are you talking about aneninen here?

Did you really think I was talking about Keyser?

I mean you did quote him.

What's up that you want me to talk about EE?

I don't know. I feel kind of lost right now and I dint know why. You seem kind of lost feeling too. Tails feels all weird, like... I think he's town but he keeps attacking people and it feels like it's for no reason like there's no push or anything, he just wants people to NOT work with him. And keysor is talking a lot and I like him but I feel like a lot of people are ignoring him reads wise. And aneninen is very certain he wants to go in his direction, but as usual that's perpendicular to the directions town and scum are trying to go. And trollie feels so weirdly about his posts (because they're plural now) but I can't seem to comprehend him acting that way as scum. It's just really not pro anything.

I don't know I guess I feel like my strong reads are the people who done post anything and then as soon as they start posting I get all wishy washy about them. I don't think I've ever been this uncertain about EVERYONE before and I don't know why I'm looking to you for direction, but maybe it's because I feel like I at least understand you a little bit?

help?

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Ok, that's good, I think. I remember not liking some of his posts at one point.

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I'm sorry never mind I was trying to figure out if you were defending aninen or trollie, not aneinen or key

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15 and 18 both protect you.

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15 and 18 both protect you.

15?

Again that seems to be a stretch to call voting a not Trollie wagon on page 1 defending

Not because it wasn't a trollie wagon. But because it was voting the player that was leading the trollie wagon.

You saw tails post. So why are you misrepping here? Like my mind is spinning because I don't see what you gain for trying to take this and spin it this way as either alignment.

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Like I see what you're trying to get at it, and I know I'm biased because I have my role pm but- there's connecting dots that aren't there (Look he's scum with Trollie by defending him!) and then there's stretching cases in order to get a mislynch (He's voting everyone that voted Trollie! Patterns!)

The latter is more forced and less reasonable. I mean its been a few years but do people really think scum act that way with their buddies?

Where did I push you? Where did I call you scum? Where did I imply that I thought it was scummy to defend someone in RVS?

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Actually in 241 I agree that defending is a thing in RVS. I just say it's not necessarily scummy.

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Whatever. Your reactions are still really weird to me. But I need to sleep before I make anything of them

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Catching up since I have some free time.

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The only thing that makes me feel strange about trollie is the fact that he has been absent

Well there's a lot of people absent, and there are people who when you posted this had only posted once. Are you saying it's strange for trollie as a player to be absent because he is usually active, or are you saying it's weird that he's absent in general?

If the second one, why weren't you suspicious of the other inactive people?

The strange part isn't that he's been inactive, it's that he's been inactive after doing something that a lot of people felt was p scummy.

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If that should confirm anything at all, it's that Trollie has NO access to any pre-game talks.

^^^
Still troubled with this...

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I think it's inexperience falling for the fake town slip. He really didn't take the time to think about it, which points to town. (Oh look, I explained a read...)

Are you talking about aneninen here?

Did you really think I was talking about Keyser?

I mean you did quote him.

What's up that you want me to talk about EE?

I don't know. I feel kind of lost right now and I dint know why. You seem kind of lost feeling too. Tails feels all weird, like... I think he's town but he keeps attacking people and it feels like it's for no reason like there's no push or anything, he just wants people to NOT work with him. And keysor is talking a lot and I like him but I feel like a lot of people are ignoring him reads wise. And aneninen is very certain he wants to go in his direction, but as usual that's perpendicular to the directions town and scum are trying to go. And trollie feels so weirdly about his posts (because they're plural now) but I can't seem to comprehend him acting that way as scum. It's just really not pro anything.

I don't know I guess I feel like my strong reads are the people who done post anything and then as soon as they start posting I get all wishy washy about them. I don't think I've ever been this uncertain about EVERYONE before and I don't know why I'm looking to you for direction, but maybe it's because I feel like I at least understand you a little bit?

help?

I feel really confused why you would go to the person who's literally sheeping another player to help you with reads. That doesn't make any sense to me.

Yeah, why WOULD someone ask someone who's been sheeping admittedly up to this point in the game to pick a direction? That makes no sense, right?

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Has anyone else played with aeronaut before?

Is he usually like this~ish?

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Scumday!!

Congrats!

I would simply recommend actually trying to read deeply. That's the better way to catch scum, IMO.

You think you're being funny but a lot of the time when people are town, they're obviously town. Just quickly putting yourself in someone's position is easy and effective in reading them. And this isn't actually addressing anything but dismissing my read and continuing on with whatever your game plan is here.

True Dat!
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K I have a few reads right now:
camn = town I mean look at her. She's thinking and I can see what she's thinking and how she's getting there. Still not excited about arriving at Trollie for today's lynch, I think I need to see much more from him before I decide that (although I guess that's like asking him to lurk all game)
RC I feel progressively less excited about lynching the more I realize how freaking confused this game is. I honestly feel almost as lost as he is when I read this, almost no one is trying to seem town, it seems like
Amihan has a temporary town read from me in an attempt to make the game readable so I don't end up sheeping someone or something like that, I'll use my brain on this one and ignore my nervousness there
Key is also town for now, I actually feel pretty solid about this one now, I think I can follow him
Aneninen is a bad place to vote, I feel pretty good about this one as well. Seems kind of like YCBA imo.
Aero feels dirty. Really dirty. As in, ran through the mud in a thunderstorm and then tripped and fell flat on his face dirty. I don't/can't really follow his thoughts and he just feels straight up weird
VOTE: aeronaut
Thelonewolf is the other guy I don't like. Not so much because of his earlier play but more because of his later vote flipping

I think aero and wolf could be scum together. Discuss.

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Clarity, sweet clarity.

Thanks, anen.
VOTE: aneninen

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That's l-1

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Whoa. Well at least we have this:

1. I am town
2. I am usually right

VOTE: camn

Static scum discussion points.

Cool. Camn is conftown imo now.

For example, Amihan is being p aggressive in some places, but it really doesn't feel like scum-theatre aggressive, more like "i'm pissed off because everyone's voting me for my first post" aggressive.

Why does everyone always say this... I'm actually just playing the game. I'm not like, purposely trying to make anyone upset to get on some high or something. This looks like a mix of some weak discredit and pushaway so you don't have to deal with me today.

The effort, formatting included, in Aero's constant barrage of posts is rubbing me the wrong way too, but I'm pretty sure that's more paranoia. It just seems kind of literally incredible that town would want to legitimately catch up with that much effort here, but I'm sure it's somehow possible. I generally like what he's saying... but I don't really want to because then it sets a bar for explanation.

I still like my camn vote so I'm not switching. Also not switching because a quick reassessment finds my Aero opinions too weak for comfort. Will wait and see.

What's with the Trollie votes? This feels like one of those early lynch options that starts as a joke but then gets serious just because scum or bad town see it as a convenient point of focus.

I'd say based on these two posts she probably did know who her partners were and there's likely two more of them she just didn't mention.

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Also

VOTE: aero

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Bulge and snarky are my candidates for the last two unmentioned scum, I think. This was easy game.

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If he hasn't claimed by L-1 go ahead and hammer.

If he does claim 3p or something we can discuss it as a group.

I doubt he will. Go back and look at his thoughts on ami. Hers on him are pretty condemning, IMO, but add that on top of it?... I'll see if I can find the exact posts but iirc it's pretty scummy.

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nvm, Idk this doesn't look as bad as I thought I remembered. :/ still:

Amihan is actually p town

1. I am town
2. I am usually right

I'm actually just getting some strong gut-townvibes from Amihan since coming back.

however

@Amihan

do you really feel like scum would claim a double voter?

Reads List v. 1.01

Town

{Keyser Söze, Tails}

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Town for Today

[Gut Reads + Snarky]

{SnarkySnowman, Venmar, Amihan}

Since my catchup,

Venmar

and

Amihan

have both struck me as town for now. For example, Amihan is being p aggressive in some places, but it really doesn't feel like scum-theatre aggressive, more like "i'm pissed off because everyone's voting me for my first post" aggressive. Venmar is also coming in way stronger / bolderish then i'd really expect scum to. They're both town for today.
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Nullbys

{The Bulge}

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Scum Lite™

{Aneninen, Extrapolated Eagle, Camn, RadiantCowbells}

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Scum

{TheTrollie, TheLoneWolf}

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Not sure how the first two posts justify a leaning town read on her?

For example, Amihan is being p aggressive in some places, but it really doesn't feel like scum-theatre aggressive, more like "i'm pissed off because everyone's voting me for my first post" aggressive.

Why does everyone always say this... I'm actually just playing the game. I'm not like, purposely trying to make anyone upset to get on some high or something. This looks like a mix of some weak discredit and pushaway so you don't have to deal with me today.

I was calling you town.

These interactions seemed strange. I guess maybe not staged.

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Idk I thought it was more convicting than it was. You're right we should just wait from a claim.

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I fucked up. I thought Camn was town.

Camn is scum. Camn & partner were told my role in their results last night and now I need a protective role on me tonight.

I'm confused. Can you explain without giving too much away?

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VOTE: camn

Static scum discussion points.

Cool. Camn is conftown imo now.

How can you rule out scum-distancing? (Please note: I currently town-read camn).

Didn't look, feel like it. Seems subopt for them at the time.

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I guess there's at least one scum between aero and camn, not sure I like the whole leia pre-claim thing, though. :/

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Really what needs to happen is that Camn gets lynched today. If he's scum, then RC gets lynched tomorrow. It's pretty clear what's going on.

How are they related? O.o

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not sure I like the whole leia pre-claim thing, though. :/

What don't you like about it?
The fact that I am Leia from post #1, but Aeronaut just thought it up a second ago?

Feels like a bit of a scummy thing to do to have that in your arsenal knowing town will claim later so you can come out and cc them. :/ idk

PS- its not called a "pre-claim"

Oh idk what it's called. Just that I've got a bad feeling about this.

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Really what needs to happen is that Camn gets lynched today. If he's scum, then RC gets lynched tomorrow. It's pretty clear what's going on.

How are they related? O.o

RC refuses to even look at Camn as scum, even though Trollie supposedly has a guilty on him.

I saw it more as him seeing you as scum and ignoring everyone else. :/ I don't see him calling her town.

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Really what needs to happen is that Camn gets lynched today. If he's scum, then RC gets lynched tomorrow. It's pretty clear what's going on.

How are they related? O.o

RC refuses to even look at Camn as scum, even though Trollie supposedly has a guilty on him.

I saw it more as him seeing you as scum and ignoring everyone else. :/ I don't see him calling her town.

Well, don't you think it's kind of strange that RC is just completely not pushing or making any attempt to parse that claim? To even look at it?

He's just acting all weird and wishy washy like he has all game

How is he acting wishy washy? Yes saying lynch you and lynch you now. He's pushing very hard. Are we reading the same game?

not sure I like the whole leia pre-claim thing, though. :/

What don't you like about it?
The fact that I am Leia from post #1, but Aeronaut just thought it up a second ago?

Feels like a bit of a scummy thing to do to have that in your arsenal knowing town will claim later so you can come out and cc them. :/ idk

PS- its not called a "pre-claim"

Oh idk what it's called. Just that I've got a bad feeling about this.[/quote

This is horrible man. It's called crumbing.
I'm passing no judgement onto Camn's alignment but this is horrible.
EE, vote Aeronaut. No fakeclaim, I promise.
And for the record, I've NEVER fakeclaimed with the intent to get someone lynched off of it and had them flip town.
That said, I'm not fakeclaiming here.

Oh yeah crumbing. Idk why it pinged me it just did. Probably cuz the circumstances are so weird. I guess that crumb was hidden enough no one would find it until she needed to use it so that makes it pro town? I'm horrible with crumbs so I'll take your word this is townish for now.

And I'm already voting aeronaut.

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I guess I did have a strong town read in cam before anyways

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Oh yeah crumbing. Idk why it pinged me it just did. Probably cuz the circumstances are so weird. I guess that crumb was hidden enough no one would find it until she needed to use it so that makes it pro town? I'm horrible with crumbs so I'll take your word this is townish for now.

I saw it.

That explains things then and makes it more likely town then, I guess.

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You are not a beloved princess serial killer.

Stahp.

Lol

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Here's how I see it.

Aero had multiple chances. He didn't claim until L-1 and his entire claim was a lie even though he'd been caught. He then forced out a full claim from RC and then lied again about who he killed. Yes told the truth not even once today. He keeps trying to bring up RC as scum or policy lynch saying RC is toxic. He tried to force out a claim from camn. I have seen nothing town from aero today. I think we lynch him. He either flips scum or sk. If he flips SK fine there's one thing he didn't lie about today and that's one out of the way. Perhaps not optimal if as sk he would have started killing scum, but if he kills wrong he can just say "oh I thought they were scum" and then wifom. We have to remember he has his own wincon he has to play to as sk. He may kill a little for town but both of us know that even if he does optimal play for town (which is suboptimal for him) than he has an expiration date. Ok so that's best case scenario if we let him live. All the worst case make me quiver though.

Especially if he's scum and trying to stay alive fora buddy or something. Killing him would be so good and helpful for buddy finding. IDk. I think he does today though

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Lonewolf venmar p much conftown imo

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Gorkington is weird and says too many buddy buddy things but weird doesn't always mean bad I guess. There are bad people.

I'm seeing keys stance on RC and that makes me more likely to think he's scum, I guess, I admit I'm still kinda on the "kill aero thingy"

Key is town btw.
Umm trollie is saying things I said after I said them but explaining them in ways someone who was just copying me would so he's town (also what scum would echo me, lol)

I don't like camn at the moment for all reasons already mentioned

I don't like aero cuz all he's done is lie

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I kind of want to flip camn because she seems most indicative of most people (rc trollie and aero by extension, I guess) and I'm curious why rc is trying so hard to protect her.


But on the other hand aero is a lot safer lynch I think and it could be I'm an idiot and second guessing rc is a bad idea.

UNVOTE:

I will examine more closely and get back tonight

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Lonewolf venmar p much conftown imo

Show me how you got to

"p much conftown"

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Venmar is pretty town because of the census ability and his play surrounding that.

I am for reasons already stated by the dead flipped town. I don't know Amenienienasn's meta but he seems to be a more careful player than to say I'm conftown without a solid basis.

this

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And gork is right, RC

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Wait what? I'm confused about why you'd lynch RC over your

claimed guilty

Because RC might be lyncher. I need to think about this though, Uve been skeptical of RC scum.

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Camn if we have to get a claim today than I'd prefer it be today over never, and I'll move my vote if necessary. If we have more time I'll catch up over the weekend and if necessary you can claim then.

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If lynching Aero doesn't kill him and he goes dark side I'd just replace out because that would make this game a complete and utterly cancerous failure of game design.

This. And it sounded as if he had to be taken into the dark side so more like he'd have to be killed. I highly doubt a lynch would keep him alive.

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Lynching scum being an anti-town play defeats the purpose of playing mafia.

Catching up nowish btw

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I'll catch up later tonight. Sorry.

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Sorry guys busy week. I'm not all the way caught up from today yet but I saw the popcorn to me and figured I should get this out there:

I'm unkarr plutt town roleblocker. I blocked ami night one and camn night two

I'm most susp of gork atm too many feels not enough thinking/working- looks fake to me. So I'm going to popcorn to him. Snarky is the other susp, imo but he already claimed

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Oh that was dumb. Nvm popcorn to key

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Reminder that L-1 = lynch for me

Or L-2 depending on how you're feeling, right?

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what are you waiting for?

a goddamn vote count RECK

This

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I blocked wolf.

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Hey guys been a busy couple days. I believe the lone wolf vote on key confirms one of them as scum, seeing as all the possible scum buddies have posted since then. So I plan to spend the rest of the day determining between the two.

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Unvote

I thought we determined it would be absurd for it to be a 2man scumteam left so one vote by town isn't enough to quicklynch but w.e

Crap I forgot it could be an SK. I was thinking of my game that just ended from that. My bad.