Blitz 25: Super Mario uPick! (Koopa Troop victory!)

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Post Post #350 (ISO) » Wed Feb 10, 2016 8:03 pm

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Super Mario Mafia:
Votecount #1.15:

L-2
Lilith2013 (4): Heat, BlueTrin, Fire Starter, Xtoxm
Frozen Angel (2): Aristophanes, Lilith2013
Ranger (1): Firebringer
Amihan (1): Ranger
Heat (1): Flubbernugget
Xtoxm (1): Amihan
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Not voting: Frozen Angel

With 11 alive it's 6 to lynch.

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Post Post #351 (ISO) » Wed Feb 10, 2016 8:05 pm

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In post 348, Frozen Angel wrote:
In post 345, Aristophanes wrote:Hahahaha I guess so!

This quote wall is ridiculous but I can't be arsed to edit it out on my phone. Sorry!


np :P

I will reread this game after having a breakfast.

But I assure you that my Ami vote was fro pressure becuase he wasted 7 pages with his mod vote drama and all he came up with was that shitty paranoia and my Jackle/Ranger vote was becuase I thought I have no time before deadline
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Post Post #352 (ISO) » Wed Feb 10, 2016 8:06 pm

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Dammit! Missed again. You're good at that shit RC! XD
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Post Post #353 (ISO) » Wed Feb 10, 2016 8:06 pm

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In post 349, Aristophanes wrote:Fancy shit!
I used to be a math guy, and then just gave up on it one day. Really bad at programming though.
Also, this explains your very Data driven approach to most games. Cool!


:good: :mrgreen:

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Post Post #354 (ISO) » Wed Feb 10, 2016 8:30 pm

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Firebringer wrote:Why am I so high up on the town read list...Also Firestarter? He is null for me.
Dude, you're quite literally the towniest player in the game. This is classic town Firebringer. Fire Starter's had insanely-town content every time they've posted.

Xtoxm wrote:I find it odd that for all the opinions Ranger has given, she hasn't touched or mentioned the vote she inherited from Jackal.
Well I was disinclined to remove a vote from someone I was already scumreading.
I'm less sure now, so you're right there.
Unvote: Amihan
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No re-vote yet since honestly not sure where to vote. All the wagons floating around just seem...so...scum-driven.
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Post Post #355 (ISO) » Wed Feb 10, 2016 8:52 pm

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In post 54, Amihan wrote:Okay guys let's lynch the mod. For real, since it's a proven possibility.

In post 55, Amihan wrote:Maybe this can end in a win for everyone except the mod?


this was so much

"Its a proven possibility" I thought your refering to the blue line in RC's vote count then. what was you referring to?
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Post Post #356 (ISO) » Wed Feb 10, 2016 8:53 pm

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In post 61, lilith2013 wrote:Yeah but.. that wagon was so fast.


what is so bad L1 ?

why did you care?
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Post Post #357 (ISO) » Wed Feb 10, 2016 8:54 pm

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In post 67, Amihan wrote:On my home site we lynched the mod and it caused them to expose a random player. I know most games here aren't like that but this one seems sillier than most, and the mod counted my vote unlike the norm so I think there's a fair chance going for it could help no matter what.


I siriously thought you joked here

I want a link to that homesite now that we know you weren't joking
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Post Post #358 (ISO) » Wed Feb 10, 2016 8:57 pm

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In post 84, Amihan wrote:
In post 75, RadiantCowbells wrote:RadiantCowbells would be very unhappy if he got lynched because he's been obviously mushroom kingdom aligned this entire game.


Would lynching "RadiantCowbells" count as a no lynch and end the day?


this wasn't just messing around you were serious

So there was two possibility :

1 - you had a part in your role pm about lynching the mod
2 - You just want to make a mess in thread

as we know first is not the case , can you talk about your agenda for asking thousands of questions about this?
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Post Post #359 (ISO) » Wed Feb 10, 2016 8:59 pm

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In post 88, RadiantCowbells wrote:
In post 84, Amihan wrote:
In post 75, RadiantCowbells wrote:RadiantCowbells would be very unhappy if he got lynched because he's been obviously mushroom kingdom aligned this entire game.


Would lynching "RadiantCowbells" count as a no lynch and end the day?


no.


why you answered!

I have a hard time to beleive there is nothing related to lynching a mod - let me make a post after the semi catchup
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Post Post #360 (ISO) » Wed Feb 10, 2016 8:59 pm

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In post 100, RadiantCowbells wrote:RadiantCowbells (ಠ_ಠ): Amihan


its still there ... :shifty: :igmeou:
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Post Post #361 (ISO) » Wed Feb 10, 2016 9:01 pm

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In post 101, Heat wrote:The point is, we're in a blitz game, and "lynching the mod" is not going to have an effect, and will waste what precious time we have.
so

let's talk about something else.


It was a themed blitz game

what about the fact its a blitz game going to do with it ?

your voting him and begging him to drop the topic and talk about someone else. Why ? why amihan reads was so important for you then?
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Post Post #362 (ISO) » Wed Feb 10, 2016 9:02 pm

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In post 109, Amihan wrote:There is nothing to be lost here. I strongly, strongly encourage that you all just trust me here.


:igmeou:
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Post Post #363 (ISO) » Wed Feb 10, 2016 9:03 pm

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In post 113, Amihan wrote:My role.


You EVEN STATED THAT'S RELATED TO YOUR ROLE PM here

so why you thought I'm white knighting you later when I get suspicious about it?

this is not adding up
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Post Post #364 (ISO) » Wed Feb 10, 2016 9:04 pm

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In post 130, RadiantCowbells wrote:
RadiantCowbells (ಠ_ಠ): Amihan


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Post Post #365 (ISO) » Wed Feb 10, 2016 9:04 pm

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In post 131, Aristophanes wrote:Ami, I wouldn't normally ask, but you brought it up.
Is there an aspect to your role that has to do with a mod lynch and if so, what is it?
Nobody will vote with you if you don't tell us why we should.


see even others asked the same question from you
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Post Post #366 (ISO) » Wed Feb 10, 2016 9:05 pm

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In post 135, lilith2013 wrote:Wow that was a really freaking quick turnaround.


That wasn't

that happened so slow

I can't follow your POV here
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Post Post #367 (ISO) » Wed Feb 10, 2016 9:07 pm

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In post 142, lilith2013 wrote:Damn I really don't know if it's just my instinct to be as contrary as possible but I am liking this wagon less with every new person who jumps on it.


this is white knighting

basically the wagoned person did nothing to show himself/herself town

Why your trying to dreil the wagon emotionally?
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Post Post #368 (ISO) » Wed Feb 10, 2016 9:08 pm

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In post 170, Flubbernugget wrote:
In post 112, Heat wrote:does anyone else think ami is just trolling

I think you're trolling and it does come off as scummy


I agree with this post as well. I hated Heat posts till this page. defensive , opportunistic offensive , tunneled vision and basically no content for sorting her.
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Post Post #369 (ISO) » Wed Feb 10, 2016 9:10 pm

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In post 150, RadiantCowbells wrote:
RadiantCowbells (ಠ_ಠ): Amihan


In post 181, Amihan wrote:After a quick Google search... he literally just took the words right off of a wiki page......

UNVOTE:

Well then. Sorry I've been so useless here.

At least this whole ordeal has provided for some decent reaction and stance analysis - knowing that Frozen Angel wasn't actually in the same boat as me. If she were scum knowing me to be a distracting town player and potential town lynch, I definitely could see her fake-sounding mod lynch queries on the last page as a form of white-knighting me. As town, I don't think she would post all of that while still voting me either. It makes more sense for scum to stay on the easy wagon while faking consideration of what everyone else thought was insane.

VOTE: Frozen Angel


In post 188, lilith2013 wrote:It's not. I asked RC and he said that any mod-lynching mechanic would make this game bastard.


In post 191, RadiantCowbells wrote:
Super Mario Mafia:
Votecount #1.8:

Amihan (2): Jackal711, Frozen Angel
Heat (2): BlueTrin, Flubbernugget
Firebringer (1): Fire Starter
Lilith2013 (1): Heat
Fire Starter (1): Firebringer
Frozen Angel (1): Amihan
BlueTrin (0):
Aristophanes (0):
Jackal711 (0):
Flubbernugget (0):
Xtoxm (0):

Not voting: Lilith2013, Aristophanes, Xtoxm

With 11 alive it's 6 to lynch.

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Post Post #370 (ISO) » Wed Feb 10, 2016 9:11 pm

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RC a Mod lynching mechanic would make this game basterd?

is this game basterd?

Is it possible to vote Mod?
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Post Post #371 (ISO) » Wed Feb 10, 2016 9:14 pm

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In post 238, Aristophanes wrote:Totally okay with this. Scum posting and mentality.

VOTE: Jackal


In post 239, Jackal711 wrote:Bleh. I knew it probably wasn't a good idea to attempt a blitz with shaky internet. Main PC's net is out until at least the beginning of March, and phone net will disappear when that bill becomes overdue in a few days.

@Mod: I really hate to do this but I think it's best for everyone concerned if I request replacement. My internet situation is not stable enough for a blitz game.


(to put things into perspective re: my last post, the small amount of text in this post took an hour to write)


this was another thing that triggered me of as it seemed a really bad position to show up and ask to replace out

already talked about this .... :lol:
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Post Post #372 (ISO) » Wed Feb 10, 2016 9:21 pm

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In post 257, BlueTrin wrote:Am i the only person playing at European hours here ?


nope I'm as well

In post 256, BlueTrin wrote:A bit busy at work recently, but here are my reads:
  • Amihan: this was absolutely hilarious in retrospect, he is either town or very ballsy scum, using balance of probabilities, I think he is more likely to be town.

    why?


  • Aristophanes: null/town, I like his scumhunting. Also he is vouching for Lilith at the moment.

    Why whoever vouching lilith is town and whoever don't is not ? You know lilith alignment?


  • Xtoxm: null/scum, very short posts

    what about it is scummy?


  • Lilith2013: null/scum, some other people are vouching for her, but I didn't like her posts and her correcting herself like if she thought she could be accused of something.

    I'm actually agreed with your point here. her emotions seems fake after rereading


  • Fire Starter: null/town, a bit of scumhunting.

    whats a bit of scum hunting? what others are doing then? acn you talk about this one in more details?


  • Ranger: null/scum, too few posts.

    Too few posts is NAI. What makes him scum ?


  • Frozen Angel: null, she is vouching for Lilith in 242, so I guess we may have an association here.

    Pre flip analyses...? I stated what I though then with my skimming.


  • Firebringer: null, I liked the posts about Ami, however there was not much afterwards.

    hmmm


  • Heat: null, his posts are very short, he posted his gut read instead of bringing arguments to the table, however there seems to be some intention of finding scum whether it is true or not.

    hmmm ?


  • Flubbernugget: null/scum, not much content, most of his posts were during the Amihan crisis.

    hmmmmm


  • RadiantCowbells: scum.

On another note, in my previous game, someone made the same argument "even if town, good lynch" and this person was town: the argument was that it was better to have a lynch than no lynch because if someone is close to be lynched he would be suspected the next day and is likely to be lynched.

I don't know if I can agree with this though, maybe it is because I played too much Town of Salem and SC2 Mafia ...



why you have so many null reads. are you even trying to sort the game?
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Post Post #373 (ISO) » Wed Feb 10, 2016 9:23 pm

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In post 308, Aristophanes wrote:
In post 304, Heat wrote:
In post 301, Aristophanes wrote:
In post 296, Heat wrote:I do not like how BlueTrin came out of 10/11 pages with only null reads, with the most being leans. That doesn't sit well with me at all
I think he explained why pretty well, though I will maybe possibly eventually look at other D1s of his to see if he's always wishy washy like this.

But even with the amount of explanation he did, I'd expect something a bit more solid.
There were a lot of null with modifiers.
I took them as "light town" and "light scum" reads, which I make all the time in readslists.

Blue, can you confirm or deny that this is a proper marker of the strength of your differing null reads?

This is correct, I didn't realise that you would prefer light town or light scum rather than null/town or null/scum. If this is causing confusion, I can just use "light town" and "light scum". I am far from being 100% sure at the moment and this is my way to say it. In the end, I understand that you have to go with your strongest read even if you are not 100% sure.

My strongest scum reads were Xtorm and Lilith. For Lilith I had made already a post about why (199), it was the case. For Xtorm, it is that not only he posts very few but he joins wagons a bit late like if wanted to tip the votes once there was a few votes:
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But for Xtorm, I like his questioning of Jackal in 235

8:20AM I need to go to work here, I will probably finish after the dead line but I will try to log on my phone at some point during the day.

PEDIT, it is my way to say that I am not 100% sure,I already explained my choices and put my vote.
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Post Post #374 (ISO) » Wed Feb 10, 2016 9:24 pm

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In post 260, BlueTrin wrote:
In post 258, Firebringer wrote:why is everyone null to you?

Because we don't have much content yet, I still consider you could all be scum. So it's my way to say that you look slightly scummier or townish to me. It would be more interesting if people post their reads as we would get more content go through.

I am more interested in the associations at this stage.


11 pages and no content?

you know you must be the one who gathers them with intracting with others ...

so shall I take that as an excuse?

and "associations tell" is basically the worst way of scum hunting specially in day 1... why you thought its better to read people based on that at this stage?
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