ABR wrote:
I think Nab should give us a lengthly analysis, as I think he is insightful town. Godfather roles aren't that common in normal minis anyway.
Finally.
I'm perfectly willing to provide insight on individuals, but it would be ridiculous not to comment on the past few pages.
Once again, the game is broken into a dichotomy. There is one missing variable that can cause the game to go down one of two paths. I almost tried to do this post by listing the truths what would apply to a situation where Kravhen is lying and a situation where he's telling the truth. I got so far as "Kravhen is Lying: He is scum, Albert is his scumbuddy" before I stopped. It just
doesn't
make sense that way.
If you were scum fake-claiming watcher, and things started to go south, what would you do? You would distance, that's what you'd do. Only insane people would tie themselves directly to town
or
scum the way Kravhen did. If Albert is scum, then you're just taking him down with you for no fucking reason. If he's town, he'd obviously refuse to back the mason claim. Kravhen made an absoultely idiotic play, but I don't think he's gone off the deep end yet.
So what does that leave us with if we still want to think Kravhen is scum? Traitorous Masons? It's a possibility, and judging by the power dynamic as Kravhen described it, it would actually possible for
either
to be the scummy mason, but that bascially takes that argument into a pretty wacky realm (Side-Note: If the Mason PM confirms the innocence of the partner, it would be helpful if
both
Albert and Kravhen were to confirm that). Just rememberd,
one
more possibility, WIFOM. Rereading the above section, I realized that I could be falling for an amazingly complex ruse, but I think that's even less likely than the traitorous mason idea.
So here's the other end of it. Kravhen is telling the truth. He and Albert came up with a stupid plan that almost lost it for the town, and it was only a lucky cop investigation (that required a frickin' claim) that saved us. It seems absolutely bizzare and completely outside the realm of "good" play, but at least there's
something
to it. There's motive, there's a plan.
In summary:
@Kravhen/Albert: What the fucking hell?! Are you
retarded
you insane motherfuckers?! That claim is ridiculous! ... but I believe it.
So I've basically come to the conclusion that the following players are town:
-Me (duh)
-D3isted (duh again)
-Albert (As I've maintained on faith)
-Kravhen (Major surprise)
So 3 of the following 4 players must be scum:
-Pickem
-Theo
-Eroto
-Blue Zebra
Not bad for a crazy-ass day, but there's always the slight possibility of mislynching even now. I'm not sure what Albert means by analysis (I am
not
doing 4 full-game PBPA's), and I don't have a whole lot of time to even do blurbs on the players right now (they're coming though). I think with the list of possible scum pared down to so few, connections should make themselves much clearer, so it might actually be a better idea to develop some idea of the scum
group
and go from there. I need to spend some time with these new insights and threads with the player filters turned on. What Kravhen did was asinine, but it might have also been the key to winning this game (in a roundabout manner).