In post 7180, The Cool Cucumbers wrote:Okay, I'm back. Sorry wgeurts if claiming honestly gets us killed here.
We are Lord Orlouge, third party.
We win when all of the roles which started the game with access to a killing ability, whether factional or on their role card(so not techniques, though I do need to ask Varsoon whether or not someone having access to a killing *technique* on their role card counts. I wasn't really thinking about that particular nuance until Zulfy claimed to have all fist techniques) are removed from the game, either via stumping, lynch, kill, or any other means. So, we want to kill all the same people town does, but we also needed to remove town vigilantes. If the scum team+Sk are removed from the game before we stop all the vigs, we will be end-gamed. If all the vigs are gone when the scum team+sk are removed, we win along with town. Varsoon said he viewed us and DS' role(after DS flipped and we were freaking out about how close he was to being completely unkillable) as opposites. DS was unlynchable and untrackable and wanted to kill everyone and thus couldn't win with anyone, and we're unkilllable and want to stop all the killing without silencing anyone, and can win with the town.
We may stump one target per night. Our stump is not affected by bulletproof or regular protections.
We are bulletproof, unlimited. Strongman/adventuring party focused fire still kills us.
N1: We attempted to stump DP. Their claim of unlimited BP+unkillable later on made a strong smoke screen to ensure that if they were scum, their late game survival wouldn't be questioned in spite of the strength of the players in the slot, so we felt there was a good chance they might indeed be scum, and felt that even if they weren't, in the worst case scenario we were ensuring that the voices of two of the strongest players in this game wouldn't be silenced.
They did not get stumped. I assume we were roleblocked by MP, but I have no idea.
N2: We stumped itlepip(sorry pip). Shooting a SK doesn't make you town, his flip would, if scum, help to resolve skybird, and if he was town, we had to remove him at some point in order to win. That's the reason why I tried to encourage him to stay engaged in the game. Being turned into a "less than VT" sucks, but there's no reason why you can't engage in the game as much as a VT does and still help guide your team to victory.
Anyways, at this point it seems very unlikely that there are any town vigs left. Town has lost 3 multi-shot vigs, plus the game itself has additional vig granting powers? I mean, there might be, I guess, but it doesn't seem necessary as far as ensuring town has the means to guarantee bad MC's get killed if they want to kill them.
We are and have been playing the entire game fucking hunting scum. We need them to all die to win, period. There has been no point in this entire game where we *weren't* hunting for scum, because our fucking win con INCLUDES your own. We just get to lose if we don't handle our stuff before endgame. So yes, you can now leash our stumps and we can all win together and go dancing off into the sunset of Facinaturu. Or you can policy lynch us because that's what you do to 3p automatically. Up to you guys.
I'm not going to be doing massive reads stuff tonight at this point. The whole point of rushing to do that would have been to *not* have to claim and risk getting policy lynched. I figure no matter how much scumhunting I do or how successful I may be at this point, it all just comes down to whether or not the town wants to believe me or not, and then if they DO believe me, whether or not they'll just autolynch us. Nothing I can do about that, and I'm not going to let this interrupt my evening anymore than it already has when we have over 10 days left in the phase and I am MUCH less busy this week than I have been lately.
Oh, and I guess if you care about that kinda thing, wgeurts crumbed cop on D1 in some post where he said "Cut it out" and talked about how ABR was certainly going to be investigated that night, in an attempt to draw a scum NK to us. I haven't crumbed anything because I don't like crumbs.
I guess if you decide to leave us alive and let us catch scum zzzx can rolecop us to confirm what I've said to those who believe he's town at least.
-Cerb
pedit: meh, the dgb vote and such made me want to not claim, but whatever. We're going to have to claim at some point unless we lynch scum today and wgeurts and myself manage to shoot scum tonight as well. Oh, yeah, there are probably only 4 scum total, cause SK wants to kill everyone, and we actively wanted to ensure the death of 3 town slots, who are all dead now. 5 scum seems a bit much with two additional 3p kills.
