Blitz 26: Maintaining Law, Order... (Game Over)

[Karnage]

Vote Count 1.3

Titus (2):

GuiltyLion, lane0168,

pignash (1):

Almost50,

persivul (2):

pignash, Ranger,

Almost50 (2):

pisskop, Titus,

lane0168 (1):

Lucky2u,

Not Voting:

Dwlee99, Persivul,

With 10 alive it takes 6 to lynch!

Deadline is in

(expired on 2016-02-08 23:00:00)

(Monday, February 8th at 23:00 EST).

[Ranger]

Explain.

Titus recently explained her scum game as being, "talk about the optimal town strategy and watch as the town doesn't do it, then complain". That is what I saw from her.

pignash is posting similarly to how he traditionally has when scum.

Almost50 is probably too low on that list, but is town enough.

And Persivul...well, he's just always scum.

[pisskop]

hehrhe ereone better like my reviewing mario upick

[Dwlee99]

"Here are legit reasons for titus and pig but I vote for the guy who is 'always scum'" (that guy is me on my homesite lol)
I would rather lynch pig or titus here than persivul.

[Titus]

Explain.

Titus recently explained her scum game as being, "talk about the optimal town strategy and watch as the town doesn't do it, then complain". That is what I saw from her.

pignash is posting similarly to how he traditionally has when scum.

Almost50 is probably too low on that list, but is town enough.

And Persivul...well, he's just always scum.

Huh?

All I have said about strategy is don't discuss it. And I moved my vote to Mr. we should no lynch.

Where's logical Ranger?

[pignash]

Ranger. This is how I post. Stop trying to meta me.

[lane0168]

Ranger. This is how I post. Stop trying to meta me.

As town or scum?

[pignash]

As me. The person.

[Titus]

Pignash, what do you think of almost?

[pignash]

Titus, you get me. Like I said, I don't like trying to outsmart the setup, especially when it advocates for a no lynch, now that you point that out. I don't know if he's scum or just anti town at this point.

[Titus]

Maybe a lil pressure to help sort him? Whatever it is, I want to figure it out. I think almost is scum, you think it needs sorting. Win win?

[pignash]

Sure.

VOTE: almost

Bun dun dun dadada dun.

[lane0168]

Looks like it's going to come down to a random lynch at this rate

[Almost50]

VOTE: Almost
That's L-2

@Pignash & Titues: Since you're both my biggest scum-reads (which is the only thing I happen to agree with Ranger on her reads) I'm going to try to help you both to get lynched one after the other.

Oh, btw.. I found a flaw in the each one visits the one below/above scheme. What if we have a NK on N1?

For the town this could mean: (a) the JK targeted the mafia killer (thus effectively RB'd them), (b) the JK targeted the target of the mafia (thus effectively Dr'd them), OR (c) the mafia played a no NK gambit.

HOWEVER, if the mafia DID submit a kill they would know the JK to be one of two players; the one that visited the killer and the one that visited their intended NK.

The problem here is the town doesn't know the JK while the mafia have already narrowed down their options to 2 = Mafia will gain more info than the town.

I would request that everybody imagine they are the mafia and try to figure out how they will play it out under different propositions, and then flip back to their town mindset and figure the best way to counter the mafia play. (Now this is turning more to a game of chess).

P.S. I will reiterate, just for the record: If I do get lynched my biggest scum read in pignash, my 2nd is Titus. Lucku comes a distant third.

My town reads are Persy, Ranger and lane. Null on the other 3.

[Almost50]

Looks like it's going to come down to a random lynch at this rate

I don't think so. They're targeting the one who's trying to break their play. It's in their best interest to mislynch so that they get the upper hand already. The idea of a NL freaks them out, and here's why:

Mislynch on D1, then both get armed AND perform their factional NK on N1 = 4 dead townies already. We enter D2 with 4 vs 2 but we have 3 suspects. A mislynch on either D2 or D3 gives them the win, and especially so if they get lucky nailing the JK in the first 4.

[Almost50]

In fact.. why would I give them the chance to get to their mislynch when I could help push on one of them already??

UNVOTE: Almost
VOTE: Titus

[Almost50]

I will repeat my request: Please try to put yourself in the mafia shoes for a minute and figure out your best play in various situations and their probable outcome(s): visit in pairs (only covers 5 players on N1), visit in singles (announced) & random visits (unannounced). Once you've decided on the mafia best play (from your own point of view) switch back to town mindset and figure out the best way to counter this.

P.S. You don't need to share all the details. In fact, no need to even share the final deduction you reach for now. Just keep it in mind for later today.

Thank you

[Dwlee99]

Did you seriously self-vote there? I am willing to believe 90% you are scum just from that coupled with your "fixing" of your mistake.

[Persivul]

True. But for me, how did that turn out?

You didn't do it - you replaced out.

[Persivul]

VOTE: Almost
That's L-2

That's really bad. You lose a lot of credibility with a self vote. Save the drama for your mama.

Oh, btw.. I found a flaw in the each one visits the one below/above scheme.[/quote]
There are flaws in every game breaking strategy. If there weren't, this wouldn't have survived as a valid open setup.

[pignash]

Yeah, not gonna be moving my vote anytime soon.

[Almost50]

That's really bad. You lose a lot of credibility with a self vote.

Yes, that was stupid of me. I wasn't thinking straight. I couldn't sleep, came back to check, found the two scum trying to use the NL proposition out of context & got carried away. SORRY.

But how about this: Lynch Titus today, if she flips scum we lynch pignash tomorrow. If she flips town lynch me tomorrow. How's that?

[Persivul]

But how about this: Lynch Titus today, if she flips scum we lynch pignash tomorrow. If she flips town lynch me tomorrow. How's that?

If there's scum in {titus, pignash}, it's only one. 108 - 111 seems way too obvious for scum buddies. But what's your case? Just that Titus opposes a NL, and pignash voted you?

[pignash]

Also lining up lynches.

[Karnage]

grab