To whomever it was inquiring about the Revolucion expansion roles-
Revolutionaries- Replace the Agents. Win when called upon, like the Agents, but they share the victory with the other Revolutionary, as well as the Thief with the fewest diamonds and any Street Urchins.
Diamond Lover- Replaces a Loyal Henchman, I think. Wins immediately when called upon, like the Agent. Shares the victory with whomever has the most diamonds, be it a Thief, or the Godfather, counting any diamonds he has taken back from Thieves, but not any diamonds that were never taken from the box. If the Godfather wins with the Diamond Lover, the Loyal Henchmen do not. If there's a tie for most diamonds, the Diamond Lover chooses who she wins with.
Traitor- Replaces a Loyal Henchman. No Rum Tokens are in play when this role is. When the Godfather chooses incorrectly, instead of the game ending immediately, the Traitor becomes the new Godfather, and wins if they can collect the remaining diamonds. If the Traitor chooses a Loyal Henchman, the Loyal Henchman avenges the Godfather, and wins the game along with the Thief with the most diamonds, and any Urchins.
Minion- Replaces an Agent. Only usable with more than nine players. Wins with the Traitor.
Crooked Lawyer- Replaces a Driver. If the first player accused by the Godfather is a Loyal Henchman or Cleaner, the Crooked Lawyer allies themselves with the Street Urchins. If the first player accused is a Thief, the Crooked Lawyer allies themselves with the Godfather. If anyone else is accused first (Driver, Street Urchin), the Crooked Lawyer reveals themselves and is eliminated from play immediately. Not compatible with Traitor + Minion.
Fake Diamond- Replaces an Agent. The player who takes the Fake Diamond has the option to take real diamonds in addition to the Fake Diamond, and become a Thief. Otherwise, the player becomes a Street Urchin. When the Godfather orders the owner of the Fake Diamond to empty their pockets, the player need only reveal the Fake Diamond. The Godfather does not expend the Rum Token. The idea behind the Fake Diamond is that the Godfather will be left with the WIFOM conundrum of whether the player who expends the Fake Diamond is a Thief, and therefore worth calling upon a second time, or a Street Urchin, and not worth calling upon.
I'd like to see the Revolutionaries for sure, and maybe the Fake Diamond or Diamond Lover are worth experimenting with. The others are eh, Crooked Lawyer especially.
I'll go ahead and ask the driver(s) to claim; that will probably help with my deduction with who's who here. (I don't think Blackberry would have a motive to falsely claim street urchin, so I think it's safe to assume that's who he is.)
Why would the drivers claim? That would only be beneficial for the first player after the godfather if they are the driver. Any other player wants to know who they are trying to help before claiming.
In post 348, BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie wrote:Why would the drivers claim? That would only be beneficial for the first player after the godfather if they are the driver. Any other player wants to know who they are trying to help before claiming.
I don't think you're taking my agenda into account. I'd prefer the Drivers to claim.
I just had the hilarious thought that if Mario was my Driver, he's probably flipping his shit right now on whether to defend me or bus me.