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In post 67, Spiffeh wrote:Like the way he's emphasizing that it's a serious vote makes me think he wants everyone to know that he's contributing.
In post 126, GuiltyLion wrote:Xtoxm wagon is better but I also feel like Xtoxm would have stronger scumplay than this
In post 176, Xtoxm wrote:Pretty surprised at scum reads on me but it seems universal so okay I guess, must have made a bad impression.
pisskop i'm not sure what you want addressed but here goes. You mentioned it was opportunistic. This was because it was the 3rd vote? I actually didn't realise you had picked up 2 RVS votes. The statement itself - that you usually have a bigger impact - Well, most (possibly all) your games with me you have replaced in at a developed stage and immediately started spamming. I was aware of the difference, however that game was fairly stalled for a Blitz so I was just picking on something minor, mainly for reactions to help me get some reads and get the game moving. I guess it was successful in that respect, just not the way I had intended.
Spiffeh's concern:
In post 67, Spiffeh wrote:Like the way he's emphasizing that it's a serious vote makes me think he wants everyone to know that he's contributing.
The emphasis was for pisskop to know it was serious and see if he reacted in a town way. By the time I made 73 I didn't feel pisskop had notably towned so I left it on. Since then, notably his reaction to the death, I actually do find pisskop town.
VOTE: unvote
Coming to the death, I think the bulletproof day-SK theory is the most likely. If it's a day-vig scum power in addition to a night kill ability then it's almost certainly a 1-shot thing and it would be a reckless waste to use such a power so early. pisskop you mentioned me using it as a distraction - I have more confidence in my play than that. And it clearly isn't an effective 'distraction' as my wagon has grown since it happened. I think it's more than safe to assume scum of some sort caused the death though, if it does turn out to have been a town day vig i'll be furious.
Reads.
Ranger - I have a mild scumread here. I feel she has been lot more chatty about things not related to scumhunting. She has posted a couple name lists, which is really easy to fake and on it's own does little for me. She has been very chatty about setup discussion, and made a fairly detailed response when I asked about other games, but has done very little in the way of actual scumhunting for the amount of posing she's done. I've not had a chance to look at the scumgames yet but i'm not expecting that to have a major impact on my read at this point in the game.
GuiltyLion i'm initially liking for town due to 40 and this comment:
In post 126, GuiltyLion wrote:Xtoxm wagon is better but I also feel like Xtoxm would have stronger scumplay than this
As the votes on my wagon go, Spiff and pisskop's feel like genuine scumreading. Droog and SRMP's don't strike me in the same way, and I think the reasoning SRMP gives for a 4th vote on my wagon is really poor.
In all, this is where i'm at:
Town reads (most of them mild)
GuiltyLion
davesaz
3dice
Spiffeh
pisskop
Not town reads
Some Random Mafia Player
droog
The Bulge
KTthecreeper
Almost50
Ranger
None of those lists are in any kind of order.
I can expand on any of the reads if people want.
In post 107, 3dicerolling wrote:You set up your post with the intent of getting someone to jump on.
The way you set it up was to strawman anyone who voted you afterwards, regardless of what reasons they gave. That is evident by the fact that you did it even though I provided no reason at all.
You aren't trying to figure out my alignment, you are trying to strawman me, and it's pretty scummy.
In post 182, davesaz wrote:Running out of voting options is a weird thing to say, please elaborate.
In post 186, Almost50 wrote:she played exactly like this.
In post 187, GuiltyLion wrote:what does "playing like this" mean?
In post 187, GuiltyLion wrote:And then why do you think scum!Ranger couldn't fake it?
In post 187, GuiltyLion wrote:I'm not sure if it's scum!Almost50 using a past game to buddy up to Ranger, or town!Almost50 with weak reasoning.
In post 193, pisskop wrote:I was meh on it. Genuine-sounding apologetic-things are not exactly game content nor has he made a move to become townread.
It amounts to a variety of AtE without adding anything to the gamestate.
In post 190, Some Random Mafia Player wrote:but we dont know if they are reads or a bunch of names in random order, if they were reads they would have reasoning. Wheres the reasoning?
In post 196, Almost50 wrote:In post 190, Some Random Mafia Player wrote:but we dont know if they are reads or a bunch of names in random order, if they were reads they would have reasoning. Wheres the reasoning?
NO. That's what I'm trying to say. She does NOT provide reasoning. She posts her reads just the way she did. I even did a comparison in my joke post (90). The reads format was exactly the same in her previous game with me.