White wrote:Wow. Lots to read over night.
Ok, first off i'd like to say that Oman has (this is in agreement with what has already been posted) been acting very strange. I'm not sure whether it's scummy or just idiotic yet though.
I'm pretty sure he was drunk last night. Not sure why he bothered posting.
The reason I never asked for a claim was because 1) He wasn't at -1 and 2) we had already had this nice big conversation saying rolefishing and asking for claims should be seen as scummy. In addition, the setup of this game makes claiming a very difficult situation for reasons we're all aware of.
Asking for claims when you're trying to kill someone is
NOT
scummy. Whoever said that needs to reevaluate their game theory. It's retarded to lynch people without giving them a chance to claim.
MoS, read my whole posts next time. I metagamed you from Bad Idea II where you (as scum) killed someone to make it look like the scum was some newbie thereby discrediting yourself as scum. The reason this is applicable is because we were talking about your "tactic" to lure scum and how it was newbish and you said something along the lines of you couldn't do it because you're not a newb.
I dismissed this point before to give you a chance to realize you were mischaracterizing this to fit your needs. I did not kill someone in Bad Idea II to set up the newbies as scum. I killed someone that I thought was on to me, and another player in the game came up with the theory that it must've been a newbie, since they'd killed a cop. They didn't realize that Sarcastro would've gotten me killed in the near future, had I left him alive. It was never a tactic to frame newbies. I killed him for self-preservation. The theory that only newbies would've done it was a godsend that I used to play the entire town, but it certainly was never something that I would've thought of. So no, this isn't something I do as scum.
MoS, i've yet to see you actually do anything about analysing scum on and off your wagon other than to state the obvious. If you're not scum then OBVIOUSLY the other scum are on or off your wagon. That's just stupid and stating the obvious. Your vote on Trojan looked OMGUS to me.
If I'm merely stating the obvious, you should be voting Tyhess. I've given reasons for him to be scum, and he's evading every post I've made about discrepancies and scummy actions he's done. If it's so obvious, you have no reason to be ignoring it.
How could my vote on Trojan be OMGUS? I voted Trojan before Trojan voted me. If anything, Trojan's vote was OMGUS not mine. In fact, if you look up Trojan's vote, that post states that it was not an OMGUS vote, which confirms the fact that my vote came first.
I'm quite wary of the 2 votes that were -3 and -2 on the MoS wagon because they seemed not only opportunistic but hasty and given with little reason. Trojan, are we to believe you don't think MoS is scum other than for that one post preceding your vote? Because you unvoted saying that your concern was dealt with. The point made above your vote was sketchy at best.
Unlike you, Trojan actually knows me somewhat, although a few people in this game have played with me more than Trojan (CKD and theopor). You should listen to the people that can compare my play as scum to this game. You have only found one similarity, from one game, and even that similarity was wrong, twisted to fit your needs. I have been scum 37 times, 1 misrepresented example is not a good enough reason to go after me. The other 36 games will prove you wrong.
Mafia is the bane of my schoolwork.
