Mini 1755: Game Over

[pisskop]

What does my town game look like?

I find it interesting that you would brush off your limited meta but try to invoke mine when I take pains to vary my play up

[pisskop]

I like where this is going.

[Deus Asmoth]

I like how you want people to further the game, but also ignore anything with more than two lines of text.

[pisskop]

Oh look. That was under two lines of text

[pisskop]

Thats also not what I said, but Im glad you could be here to share it.

[Ircher]

Anything with a gif in it and more than 2 lines of text is getting ignored.

I have like no patience for most of Axle v keysor. Its a thing.

We're like brothers. This is how I know he is scum.

This is not like AI's behaviors with regard to me, or in general. Its much more pointed than any other experience I have with him, and is a reason I scumread him. Plus its offhanded to the point of being slightly insulting.

Has anyone seen these guys?:

This makes Keysor more town, but gdi I was skimming and actually thought I missed the music note posting. annoying


I completely forgot I answered the questions regarding my intent in 126,127,128. That makes the completely noncontentful Deus a scumread even more for being stupid and getting caught not reading.
I townlean axle and townread Massive.
I have no experience with heat either way, but they seem to be taking an involved stance and open to change. Thats usually a town trait.

AI is scummy, and shame on you who doesnt think so and isnt thir buddy. Deus reacted like oppurtunistic scum and can eat the rope too.

Meh. I dont doubt Icher is being genuine about not liking my posts *shrugs*, but its not entirely alignment indicative, its just not likeing the tone. Plenty of scum would call it out and mean it.

I did like how he interacted with keysor, so thats something.

Only two constructive posts I've seen from pisskop

[Deus Asmoth]

Thats also not what I said, but Im glad you could be here to share it.

It's literally exactly what you said. Are you being an arsehole for the fun of it or are you actually trying to accomplish something?

[pisskop]

Anything with a gif in it and more than 2 lines of text is getting ignored.

Are you claiming to be unable to read from left to right?

[pisskop]

Hows about you just admit that what I said and what you said were not the same thing and focus on something that isnt pushing me for being a meanie, enh? You do someting worth townreading, Ill townread you.

[Ircher]

I am suggesting PL Pisskop.

He isn't contributing much and refuses to be civil or make decent, constructive posts. Instead, he keeps trolling everyone and making the game unpleasant. If he doesn't get replaced, I strongly sugges Policy Lynching him.

[UpTooLate]

Just had a chance to skim in the car, will post more later. Did you guys happen to check out the first link in PK's sig? My phone won't let me paste the contents, but I found it interesting considering his current behavior.

[Deus Asmoth]

Hows about you just admit that what I said and what you said were not the same thing and focus on something that isnt pushing me for being a meanie, enh? You do someting worth townreading, Ill townread you.

You have a pretty high opinion of yourself if you think that your read of me means anything to me. And your behaviour informs on your role, so there's no reason why I shouldn't push you for it. If you didn't want to get this reaction, you shouldn't have thrown a tantrum over getting a few votes.

[Performer]

@massive
Keyser's meta as town, is that he's very analytical, he notices details, and sometimes gets paranoid. That's my observation from my 2 games with him. His scum game I've never seen, so I can't say anything about that.

I don't like how you stated you're easy to read as every alignment. I played only 1 game with you and I never had a strong townread on you before your flip in that game. Can you expand on why you say you're easy to read as every alignment, maybe including examples?
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To let yu guys tie your own knots and to follow my established meta.

Im more than willing to lose to prove my point.

When and if I feel like it Ill come back and do things.

I don't think town-Pisskop would give up like this. It is so weird.

I think it's extremely odd too that he's been putting forth these posts.
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Pisskop is not a beginner. He knows how to play Mafia. I really don't understand why town-Pisskop would act like this. From town-Pisskop's POV, I could be scum trying to frame him. Surely he wouldn't give up so easily if he considered this possible?

In our last game together, he was town and wasn't very impressed by my actions. In fact, he even lynched me (I was town too), because he thought it was scummy. What causes him to react like this?

What seems most plausible is this: Scum-Pisskop hates being scumread on page 5 and attempts to confuse the town by doing something bold. Possibly he doesn't even like playing scum.

Actually iirc, pk likes playing scum and is actually fairly good at it. I think I played 2 games versus him as scum (when he was Mafia and when he was Werewolf).
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The difference between the two is everything my little heart could desire.

vote: ai

I dont even think itd take my special brand of meta to see that youre pointed and goal-driven instead of in a problem solving mode.

You mentioned your meta in 127 and 172...I've only seen your scum meta. What's your town meta?

[pisskop]

i have over 50 games and a reasonably up to date wiki.

no wai we havent shared a towngame :v Does my play here match my scum games w/you?

[Performer]

FOS on Performer for talking about irrelevant stuff all game.

That's a very good point. But at the same time, I'm not only doing that. I like to socialize sometimes, keep it fun you know? It's just my style (not a copied version of someone else's).

It's like Keyser's funny pictures and videos lol.

@pk I can't say with much certainty at this point, if your play in this game matches your scum game. You're one of those players who varies things more...fluidly than others.

[pisskop]

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... +performer

the only game with you where I wasnt scum or mod :/

[Performer]

I townlean axle and townread Massive.

@pk this is interesting...I'm scum leaning massive instead of town reading him.
*yells at massive's apartment*
"Massive come out
you said I asked about weekend activity
but now it's the weekday!"

@Ircher I find it somewhat peculiar that you lean town on me. Although I'm beginning to lean town on you because of your reads list and the way you seem to be carefully going about things.
I think instead of a PL (which wastes a day's lynch if the target turns out town), you should rally people against who you scumread. Ras is looking scummier than Axle at the moment.
VOTE: Ras
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Between the pk vs AI and Ras vs Keys situations, I'm only townreading Keys, I'm scum leaning Ras for his very brief and mysterious posts, and the pk vs AI situation..

they both have experience with each other, they are both voting each other. I'm not certain who's town in that dilemma, or if both are even town.

[Performer]

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... +performer

the only game with you where I wasnt scum or mod :/

Whoa that game...the one where I was scum and you were town.
I didn't bookmark that game before, I'll do it now. Do you have other scumreads than AI at the moment?

[pisskop]

gdi

[pisskop]

just catch up and tell us things

[pisskop]

also why are you bookmarking games you played in?

[Performer]

also why are you bookmarking games you played in?

For future reference. I may see that person again someday, and use their meta as a piece in reading them.

[Performer]

catch

well my quick reads are these:
town: utl, keys, ircher
scummy: massive, Rask
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Expanded version below.

Keys – has been up to his same charming town methods that I saw from a large normal and mini normal I played with him in. He tends to be very analytical, sometimes to the point of paranoia. I’m only speaking about his town game because I’ve never seen his scum game.

UTL – could’ve easily put pk at L-1 at post 124. Instead, she put forth a thoughtful post about her understanding of his wagon. Though I only have 1 meta on her (when she was a Goon), she’s looking different than her scum play in this game. Her wink at 125 gives me a good feeling too.

Ircher - I find it somewhat peculiar that you lean town on me. Although I'm beginning to lean town on you because of your reads list and the way you seem to be carefully going about things.

massive – I don't like how you stated you're easy to read as every alignment. I played only 1 game with you and I never had a strong townread on you before your flip in that game. Can you expand on why you say you're easy to read as every alignment, maybe including examples?

Rask - I'm scum leaning Ras for his very brief and mysterious posts.

[AlwaysInnocent]

@Mod: Do the Mafia have day talk?

[Keyser Söze]

Ircher seems incredibly intent to frame pisskop in a way that strikes me as really scummy. He suggests a PL, but then doesn't vote him because he doesn't want to push him up to L-1.

I can see where Ircher's frustration with pisskop's "bad attitude" and "constant ranting" is coming from though - I too, felt like I'd had enough of pisskop's act (thus, I could empathize (but not agree) with Ircher's push for a policy lynch.

He even acknowledges that he's likely to be wrong. That doesn't make a lot of sense to me, and it kinda signals to me that he knows more than the rest of us, aka he's scum.

I doubt Ircher would have a full scum-read on pisskop this early - thus, the hesitation/lack of conviction with the policy lynch.

I'm currently voting for AI (orig. it was a RVS vote, but I'm quite comfortable with it right now). Like who just refuses to discuss their reads list because the other person hasn't contributed? its a reads list, and you must have reasons for them. And I'd like to know them.

Yes, it's his job to explain his naked read lists - but he has been more expressive with his reads/thoughts since his first one (I think even I could explain why he is town/null/scum-reading certain players).