>.<Dragon Phoenix wrote:You think a mafia role blocker would block Skruffs of all players night one? With a claimed investigation role about, which they could not be sure they could kill?
That's the post where you moved me to the front of your list, and your explanation - that BM voted me (which is wrong if you look at BM's attitudes towards me at the end of the day) - does not jive with your new explanation. CAUGHT!foolinc wrote: Speaking of Mgm, I've taken a look at jeep's and xyzzy's posts and discovered that mgm, PlaysWithSquirrels (who was replaced by Gaspar), LoudMouthLee, and Skruffs are common votes between both players. There has to be a reason that both were nightkilled instead of scum attempting to get the town to lynch them.
Vote: Skruffs,[Dani Banani, Gaspar], [PookyTheMagicalBear, IH, Mgm, Talitha, Tamuz ], [Adele, Cogito Ergo Sum, Dragon Phoenix, logicticus, LoudmouthLee, Thesp, VitaminR, Zindaras], no lynch, foolinc
Who said anything about blocking BM? And WTF is a superkill?Skruffs wrote:>.<Dragon Phoenix wrote:You think a mafia role blocker would block Skruffs of all players night one? With a claimed investigation role about, which they could not be sure they could kill?
The mafia KILLED BM. Why would they also waste a block on him?
BM is improving in play over how he used to be but he still has rather bad luck with night actions.
DP & MGM -
Superkills overwhelm doc protection. Why postulate things if you are not going to consider possibilities at all?
I didn't really think of that.Gaspar wrote:(Glork.)
Erm... this logic is flawed.foolinc wrote:It's not the fact you said you were blocked. It's:foolinc wrote: I'm not a fan of the soft claim in general because it points out that you are a powerrole which will make you a target of scum, while not giving information to the town.
1) He might not be power. Though they are relatively rare, thereareroleblockers whose targets are told that they are blocked, regardless of whether they have an active ability or not.
I've been trying to answer this question for some time, but the best answer I can give is a less than sound idea, IMO. Skruffs would do so because he, if he was scum, would pretend to be town. In an attempt to gain the trust of the town he shared some information. However, like I have said, a soft claim is scummy in my eyes. This means that scum would be unlikely to make this move unless Skruffs is the poisoner. In this case, since only BM died that night he assumed someone blocked him and posted. The reason he would post would be because the best way to survive as an SK is to pretend to be a vig, which would not only kill someone they voted for, but also probably share that they were roleblocked.2) Unless I am mistaken, your reason for suspicion assumes that Skruffs' claim of "power role" is legit. If you believe that he gave information about his role to the scums, then wouldn't that mean that he's not scum? In contrast, if you believe his scum, why would his claim of "I was roleblocked" have to do with anything? Do you believe that he is scum with power and that he was roleblocked? If so, why would he choose to share that with the town?
I'm a bit suspicious on the situation, but there is a lot of possibilities on what really happened.IH wrote:I actually would consider a super kill being from one player, and would classify the mentioned action as "simultaneous".
I'm also unsure if it has been discussed or not, but has anyone thought to try and refute my points about Cubs action? Or even Read it? Any other comments would be appreciative?
Does anyone think anything from the flavor can be gathered from it? The way the duelist action happened where both players received a gun may have actually been the reverse, as only a killer would have known how to use a gun, and Cubs wasn't a killer, so he therefore missed.....
I didn't ask a question, so I'm not asking anyone to answer me. Surely we can discuss how BM managed to die without outing the doctor.LoudmouthLee wrote:God.Mgm wrote:I´ve seen mafia do stranger things. If they believed the investigator was totally wrong in his suspicions for example, it would be a shame to waste a block on him that could be used against someone else.
I´m more concerned about how scum was able to kill BM without running into a doctor protection.
Since everyone knows I'm not a doctor, I will say this:
PLEASE DO NOT ANSWER MGM.
This seems like blatant doctor rolefishing, and I REALLY dislike it.
His claim seemed fine, but he's acting so scummy, I know not what to do. I feel like moving him up... way way up... on my list again.
You're trying to give the scum a crucial advantage in this game.I didn't ask a question, so I'm not asking anyone to answer me. Surely we can discuss how BM managed to die without outing the doctor.
I agree completely.Gaspar wrote:(Glork.)
Oh my god. LmL is exactly right in that we shouldABSOLUTELY NOTbe discussing why BattleMage died last night.
I could think of probably a dozen different possibilities. The fact that people keep coming into the thread and suggesting one or two possibilites gives off an awful lot of info.
The danger lies mostly in the fact that we don't know what information the scum have. Someone might say something that looks relatively innocuous now, but that will be, or will later be, significant to scum.Mgm wrote:Nothing is stopping the doctor from mixing with the crowd and posing alternate possibilities himself. Unless their posts outright say what they did, I don't think they tell much about the poster's role.