Ultimate Videogame Topic 3: The Next Generation

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Post Post #2325 (ISO) » Mon Jan 04, 2016 9:56 am

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Kingdom Hearts is not for plot. If that's why you're playing it enjoy the worst things about Final Fantasy, plus a bunch of one off Disney levels???
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Post Post #2326 (ISO) » Mon Jan 04, 2016 10:29 am

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Where does that assertion come from?
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Post Post #2327 (ISO) » Mon Jan 04, 2016 12:01 pm

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From playing two Kingdom Hearts games.
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Post Post #2328 (ISO) » Tue Jan 05, 2016 9:33 am

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idk ive still only beaten KH1 and it's one of my fave games partly because of the plot
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Post Post #2329 (ISO) » Tue Jan 05, 2016 9:43 am

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I can't imagine that you would find the story of 2 to be an improvement on the first game's. It just kind feels like if DeviantArt was also a Squaresoft/Disney crossover fanfiction forum.
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Post Post #2330 (ISO) » Tue Jan 05, 2016 10:02 am

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I played KH1 originally when I was 13 and it had a deep impact on me. Before I had never really played a game like it, mostly because I didn't get a chance to play most games growing up. I really loved it. Looking back, it's not as great as I had thought it was then, but it was certainly a special experience for me. I still haven't gotten to play the others, though.
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Post Post #2331 (ISO) » Tue Jan 05, 2016 10:05 am

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Oh I definitely enjoyed it when I was younger.
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Post Post #2332 (ISO) » Tue Jan 05, 2016 10:45 am

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Kh metaplot has always been a convoluted mess, IMO. The Disney aspects worked okay in KH1, but don't feel like they fit at all past that.
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Post Post #2333 (ISO) » Tue Jan 05, 2016 3:54 pm

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In post 2328, xRECKONERx wrote:idk ive still only beaten KH1 and it's one of my fave games partly because of the plot


The plot may have been the only thing I enjoyed about KH1.
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Post Post #2334 (ISO) » Tue Jan 05, 2016 11:02 pm

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In post 2328, xRECKONERx wrote:idk ive still only beaten KH1 and it's one of my fave games partly because of the plot

"There's no way you're taking Kairi's
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Im not much of a plot person in general especially with this game (since my sis went full teenage fangirl with the organization xii and ever since then I have been so extremely distant from the plot) but yeah the first game had probably the best plot since after that it became a metaplot heaven and then number 2 was like hey here's a game with disney as a feature but oh look now it actually has an entire original cast for us to do stupid things with. 1 kept it simple and it kept it cute and it kept it succinct and together.
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Post Post #2335 (ISO) » Wed Jan 06, 2016 3:46 am

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In post 2329, Ythan wrote:I can't imagine that you would find the story of 2 to be an improvement on the first game's. It just kind feels like if DeviantArt was also a Squaresoft/Disney crossover fanfiction forum.

Probably not. I never finished 2 because my PS2 broke but I got really damn close to the end and the whole Heartless vs Soulless or whatever bullshit they had was just cringey
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Post Post #2336 (ISO) » Wed Jan 06, 2016 5:12 am

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Heartless lack bodies, Nobodies lack hearts. And then there's... Unversed? I forget, been a while.

I need to finish Dream Drop Distance at some point. The plot does get convoluted though. And apparently
there's time travel involved
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1 was a great standalone game and I think the series is fine, although some of the sidegame gimmicks suck (card system in CoM, whatever 358 had that was apparently unmemorable, DDD's Pokemon esque system is weird)... Just gimme 3 so I can go back to smashing things.
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Post Post #2337 (ISO) » Wed Jan 06, 2016 5:18 am

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In post 2336, InflatablePie wrote:Heartless lack bodies, Nobodies lack hearts. And then there's... Unversed? I forget, been a while.

Yeah but see, I can dig on Heartless because they had a certain charm in the first game and were these ambiguous shadow monsters. Then Nobodies got involved and it's just kinda ambiguous. Some of them are generic looking monsters -- and some of them appear human. It just doesn't have any consistency and seems to have gotten out of control.
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Post Post #2338 (ISO) » Wed Jan 06, 2016 7:09 am

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In post 2337, xRECKONERx wrote:
In post 2336, InflatablePie wrote:Heartless lack bodies, Nobodies lack hearts. And then there's... Unversed? I forget, been a while.

Yeah but see, I can dig on Heartless because they had a certain charm in the first game and were these ambiguous shadow monsters. Then Nobodies got involved and it's just kinda ambiguous. Some of them are generic looking monsters -- and some of them appear human. It just doesn't have any consistency and seems to have gotten out of control.

If someone with a very strong heart loses their heart, the Nobody that is produced has human-like features (like the people in Twilight Town or Organization XIII).

A Nobody is capable of developing a heart through their experiences.
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Post Post #2339 (ISO) » Wed Jan 06, 2016 7:17 am

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It's all Ansem's fault somehow

or Xehanort, usually
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Post Post #2340 (ISO) » Wed Jan 06, 2016 7:20 am

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Only the emblem heartless are.
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Post Post #2341 (ISO) » Wed Jan 06, 2016 7:45 am

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I think one of my fav parts of KH is when you turn into a little shadow heartless for a bit. It was silly and cute.
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Post Post #2342 (ISO) » Wed Jan 06, 2016 7:50 am

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My favorite part is every time Billy Zane opens his mouth.
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Post Post #2343 (ISO) » Wed Jan 06, 2016 7:51 am

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Post Post #2344 (ISO) » Wed Jan 06, 2016 4:08 pm

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KH1 also made me not hate Goofy as much

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Post Post #2345 (ISO) » Wed Jan 06, 2016 4:16 pm

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ok but like isnt it in KH1 where everytime you heal goofy he fucking says "Thanks Donald"

what an ungrateful piece of shit

it sounds like he says it in 2 as well but thats just him saying "Thanks pal"
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Post Post #2346 (ISO) » Wed Jan 06, 2016 5:09 pm

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I probably never healed my allies and cure was basically the only spell I used.

KH1 also made me like Goofy more.
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Post Post #2347 (ISO) » Wed Jan 06, 2016 6:06 pm

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In post 2346, Ythan wrote:I probably never healed my allies and cure was basically the only spell I used.

You sound like my anti-magic sister and that makes me sad.
Aeroga is a godsend in 1 and Thundaga/Reflect in 2 (also fira solely bc of the demyx fight).
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Post Post #2348 (ISO) » Wed Jan 06, 2016 6:24 pm

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I don't feel like most spells were all that helpful! But if I were to replay I could see myself using them more anyway.
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Post Post #2349 (ISO) » Wed Jan 06, 2016 7:42 pm

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Thundaga in 2, at higher levels (and lower levels in a magic enhancing-form) is basically poof and the enemy is gone. It's much the same as in BBS, except in BBS Magnega is more accessible and usable and really adds to Thundaga's effectiveness.

I've found after replaying 1 that Aeroga is a lifesaver, often blocking or reducing very threatening attacks to manageble stuff. The Phantom fight, for example is basically impossible without it. With the addition of the 1.5 bonus heartless, Stopga and Aeroga become very very important to succeeding.
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