SPAG – 1 – Head_Honcho
Vollkan – 1 – D3sisted
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Not Voting – 5 – GatorGuy91, Jenter Brolincani, Paradoxombie, poppinpuffin, ChronX
To answer your question.IH wrote:unsure why you just bolded parts of my posts.
Already explained.IH wrote:Well. You're staying on it. You have no reasons. We're not in the random stage. You act like you have a case. You don't.
Negative. Being at L-3, you had one less reason to be nervous.IH wrote:no it detracts from it.
For the sake of avoiding redundancy, I'm not going to go over this one again.IH wrote:Because she never claimed to have a reason.
This indicates you made a case against me and voted me for a good reason, and for me to avoid that case I deflected suspicion onto you. But I didn't deflect anything, because, well, there was nothing to deflect from. I'm just plain suspicous of you.
vollkan wrote:My vote is staying on d3sisted as well. L-2 is serious stuff and it is not a scumtell for a person to get nervous, particularly when the wagon is at L-2 (It is FIVE (5) to lynch not six; IH you said 6 before) and where there is no actual argument to rebut. How can you refute pressure?
I mean, d3sisted's logic appears to be: I'll place IH at L-2 for pressure. Then, when IH gets nervous I will accuse him of being scummy for getting nervous.
This tactic is NOT scum-hunting. It is placing people in a ridiculous situation where they should rightly be exceedingly nervous in order to create a case for suspicion.
My vote stands.
I have been in games before where they modify the number of needed votes. This appears to be one of them. (I have bolded).The Votecount wrote: Votecount: as of post 179
d3sisted – 3 – Kison, IH, vollkan
IH – 2 – Trumpezia, d3sisted
SPAG – 1 – Head_Honcho
With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch!
Not Voting – 5 – GatorGuy91, Jenter Brolincani, Paradoxombie, poppinpuffin, SPAG
With 11 alive, it's five to lynch.
1) See above. I am only going by what the mod says.d3s wrote: 1) It is indeed 6 to lynch.
2) Not once did I suggest that IH was expected to refute a pressure vote. That in itself is just plain silly.
3) I placed IH at L-4. Poppin came in and put him at L-3, which is as far as IH ever got.
4) This is nowhere near as "serious" as you make it out to be.
5) Poppin has long since removed her vote, and IH stands once again at L-4. Tell me again why you're both so anxious for me to remove an L-4 vote. Apparently, putting someone at L-4 is tantamount to L-2. (This is in response to IH as well.)
Finally, something tangible has emerged from my pressure vote.
Unvote; Vote: Vollkan
1) is most likely you are wrong.d3s wrote: Finally, something tangible has emerged from my pressure vote.
Unvote; Vote: Vollkan
Which means that you are now officially flipflopping on your stance.Vollkan wrote:Puffin has unvoted upon discussion restarting but you seem intent on keeping it going, and it's looking like you are doing so in order to keep attention off yourself.
I dont think IH was in any danger, and I'm pretty sure it's well-known standard procedure to elicit reactions for later analysis. What good would a mislynch do at this early point in the game? I don't think my pressure vote was particularly scummy, and I don't regret it at all... look at all the content we're getting now.vollkan wrote: 3) But nothing could emerge from this wagon, other than you being able to leap on somebody's response to it as evidence of over-reaction. I have no problem with a pressure wagon, when there is a point to it. Also, as I have said again and again, your behaviour in sum is more suspicious than Puffin's. Puffin's vote is scummy as all hell too; but I don't like you overall.
I will be doing a re-read on Puffin today or tomorrow.
Yeah, I know reactions are useful. The problem is, though, that reactions alone are not really sufficient, particularly when the purpose of the wagon is to incite a reaction. I am of the view that town are not significantly less likely to react to wagons than scum.I dont think IH was in any danger, and I'm pretty sure it's well-known standard procedure to elicit reactions for later analysis. What good would a mislynch do at this early point in the game? I don't think my pressure vote was particularly scummy, and I don't regret it at all... look at all the content we're getting now.
Mostly because you saw my vote on your and ricocheted an entire case on me. Then you kept asking why my vote was on you, when I felt it was quite clear it was a random pressure vote.IH wrote:I'm still unsure how I became nervous.
Desisted, could you quote where I 'became nervous'? Instead of just me posting and catching up?
The game was at a standstill. Two days had elapsed since anyone last said anything, so I felt something had to be done to rekindle the thread.IH wrote:Errr, why would you put a random pressure vote on someone when the game had already gotten going? Thats the whole point.
Ok.IH wrote:Also the case wasn't the result of your vote. It was the result of me catching up.