'The Lost Boys' Mafia (Cry Little Sister, it's OVER!)

[cicero]

The problem with just a name claim (and I'm not necessarily in favor of a claim at all) is that it doesn't tell you much of anything in this game. What I mean is that David was just a citizen. Not the leader of the vampires. So... all anyone will do is end up making false assumptions. For all we know the head vampire is the grandfather from the movies.

I don't have a strong opinion on our best strategic move yet. I just want that taken into account.

[Mastermind of Sin]

I agree with Crub. I don't see how claiming pieces over time and claiming it all at once is any different.

If it doesn't make a difference, than you shouldn't have any problem doing it our way.

Check.

[Mr. Flay]

Eleventh Vote Count of Day Two:

(same as last page, actually)

GodOfWine - 6 (-TinVision-, Ectomancer, Battle Mage, Sudo_Nym, HackerHuck, Mastermind of Sin)

Sudo_Nym - 3 (Crub, The Central Scrutinizer, VitaminR)
Sir.Laggalot - 2 (Yosarian2, GodOfWine)
dybeck - 1 (Mariyta)
Battle Mage - 1 (PookyTheMagicalBear)
HackerHuck - 1 (dybeck)

Not voting - 4 (AniX, Sir.Laggalot,

Amb

cicero, Arafax)

With eighteen present, ten votes will lynch.

[Ectomancer]

I'd rather you not discuss what name claim would be most beneficial for him to claim. That's a retarded idea.

Agreed, discussing claims beforehand like that is not helpful.

Indeed.

I agree with Crub. I don't see how claiming pieces over time and claiming it all at once is any different.

If it doesn't make a difference, than you shouldn't have any problem doing it our way.

Check.

Indeed.

[Battle Mage]

Haven't had time to reread yet. Will do so asap.

[Mariyta]

Meh. Yeah, I don't care, would just save time to do it all at once.

[Battle Mage]

Ah, true enough. But a Day 1 vanilla townie claim is as good as worthless anyway.

Actually, i disagree. As this opinion becomes more accepted, less scum are going to claim vanilla townie, and thus, scum who are under pressure on Day 1, may buy themselves some time with a power-role claim.

Just a thought
BM

[The Central Scrutinizer]

Ah, true enough. But a Day 1 vanilla townie claim is as good as worthless anyway.

Actually, i disagree. As this opinion becomes more accepted, less scum are going to claim vanilla townie, and thus, scum who are under pressure on Day 1, may buy themselves some time with a power-role claim.

Just a thought
BM

That's exactly what we want... scum to claim counterable or verifiable roles..

[Sir.Laggalot]

I really don't think that God of Wine name claiming would be a benefit to the town side right now.

I really do think we need to turn our eyes elsewhere.

[Sudo_Nym]

You know something we don't, Laggsy?

[HackerHuck]

20+ posts on whether to claim or not? I don't see how it benefits scum for him to simply name claim first.

Does MoS seem a little eager for a claim here? lynch-4 doesn't seem to be that much of a dangerous place and I also recall that he was the first to call for the Fonz's claim. Just another thing to note...

[Ectomancer]

It's a good note, but I've also known MOS to push early to lure the truly overeager out into the open.

It sounds like you support a name claim as well HH?

SirLags - if you have a case on someone else, then feel free to present it.

@Sudo - I don't think SL was dangling role bait in front of your nose. He appeared to be saying simply that he didn't see how a name claim at this point will benefit the town, not that he has "info" about GoW. If I'm wrong about that, Lags, wait until someone gets into a more dangerous position than being asked to name claim before feeling like you need to speak up to "save" them. Either way, don't confirm my interpretation one way or another. Just show us that elsewhere that our eyes should be turned to instead.

[HackerHuck]

It's a good note, but I've also known MOS to push early to lure the truly overeager out into the open.

It sounds like you support a name claim as well HH?

I'm actually indifferent. Lynch-4 seems a little premature to me, but I really do think he's scum. I don't see a name claim helping me in any way, but I also don't see how it helps the scum.

I am starting to get a funny feeling about all of this though. Since I've seen you come up with some good theories before Ecty (e.g. Board Games), I'm willing to give you the benefit of the doubt. I'm just not sure why we're so eager to get role names out in the open. It's definitely making me start to wonder about the setup and mechanics a lot more.

[Mastermind of Sin]

It's a good note, but I've also known MOS to push early to lure the truly overeager out into the open.

It sounds like you support a name claim as well HH?

I'm actually indifferent. Lynch-4 seems a little premature to me, but I really do think he's scum. I don't see a name claim helping me in any way, but I also don't see how it helps the scum.

I am starting to get a funny feeling about all of this though. Since I've seen you come up with some good theories before Ecty (e.g. Board Games), I'm willing to give you the benefit of the doubt. I'm just not sure why we're so eager to get role names out in the open. It's definitely making me start to wonder about the setup and mechanics a lot more.

:goodposting:

[dybeck]

GodofWine: I would hold off on a claim until some protown players think you're scum.

Even then, I suspect you'll get lynched anyway.

[Mariyta]

GodofWine: I would hold off on a claim until some protown players think you're scum.

Even then, I suspect you'll get lynched anyway.

This is where our eyes should be turned.

[The Central Scrutinizer]

You know something we don't, Laggsy?

Oh ffs now he's rolefishing.

Can we pretty please lynch him already?

[VitaminR]

*agrees with TCS*

[Ectomancer]

You know something we don't, Laggsy?

Oh ffs now he's rolefishing.

Can we pretty please lynch him already?

I'm not ready to lend my support, but nearly ready to remove my objections.

@dybeck - Since none of the 6 votes on GoW are "protown" in your opinion, let's see your suspicions on, oh, any of them for example.

@Mariyta - No support from me at this time for dybeck. I'm leaning more towards

incompetent

naive than scummy.

[Sir.Laggalot]

My suggestion was more of a way to get the rid of the GoW wagon (because i still don't see much merit in it), then it was me stating i have an idea on who to lynch. Although Sudo really has been acting scummy recently... I am still shy from my first attempt at looking at peoples posts from the past, so shoot this down if its me miss reading again.

I can't believe I never thought of that myself. That's actually a really good point, but it doesn't particularly alter who I see as suspicious. Chalk up a new learnin' experience for the still-relatively-new player.

There was no real reason to point out the noob thing, and (i know its not generally accepted but...) the first part would be a really good move for the vampires if this is recruit based. With us ignoring the names they could snipe the movie vamps to grow in numbers.

[Battle Mage]

GodofWine: I would hold off on a claim until some protown players think you're scum.

Even then, I suspect you'll get lynched anyway.

This is where our eyes should be turned.

Could you BE any more scummy looking?

[Mastermind of Sin]

Mariyta, dybeck isn't the play today. I agree that he most likely just doesn't know what he's doing. GoW and Sudo are the most likely scum we have right now.

[Arafax]

Vote GoW

[Mariyta]

GodofWine: I would hold off on a claim until some protown players think you're scum.

Even then, I suspect you'll get lynched anyway.

This is where our eyes should be turned.

Could you BE any more scummy looking?

Yup.

[dybeck]

Why have we not lynched Mariyta yet??!

It's purely because every time she runs the risk of further showing her colors, she goes into hiding! Is this really all it takes to fool this town??